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Aaron
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Ted C wrote: If you think Airborne is silly, wait 'til you hear about Head On.
Is that the BS headache stuff that you rub on your forehead to get rid of the pain? I heard that had been debunked too.
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Darth Raptor wrote:Hasn't the body's ability to recover when it thinks its recovering been well documented by now?
If we go off of this idea then homeopathic remedies aren't very stupid at all. Whether or not the water actually 'remembers' properties, if it helps a few people simply because they believe it is helping them, then I see no problem with it. Now, if these alternative medicines had negative effects, then I'd say they were a foolish alternative. So, if Airborne contains a 'dangerous' amount of vitamin C, then it should probably be avoided (and is also not a homeopathic). As far as I know homeopathic remedies contain only water, which is not dangerous.

In regards to acupuncture, I once had it performed on my knee. I had been playing a lot of tennis which was causing it to swell up. By the time he came to remove the needles my knee was no longer swollen. I don't know if it's because I subconsciously had some strange faith in it, or if it actually did something... either way it helped. It hasn't become swollen since either (it was a reoccurring problem).

I guess it might just depend on how much someone is willing to pay in order to convince their body to heal.
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ray245 wrote: Didn't the chinese have the idea of proper surgery methods in the han dynasty? When Hua Tuo tried to cure Cao Cao?
If you're citing this you're actualy citing a method considered something similar to modern medicine. It won't help on any "traditional medicine works" argument. Surgery is basically unseen in traditional clinics nowadays at least what I see in Taiwan. The docs would simply advise you to go see a modern medical doctor.

I've seen a couple of traditional doctors myself, however so far my treatments were herbal medicine. Frankly speaking I can't say much since the medicine, like the shots I took from a medical doc didn't really cure my allergies. Haven't tried acupuncture yet.
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Superman wrote: Maybe it does, but it probably doesn't. Traditional Chinese medicine is not based on knowledge of modern physiology, biochemistry, nutrition, anatomy, or any of the known mechanisms of healing. :roll:
I hate to tell you this, but there's quite a bit of Western medicine out there that isn't either.

Science is oftentimes used thereafter to explain WHY something works, rather than creating something that works.

For instance. One method of treating OCD is placing a big magnet on a person's head. Does it work? Yes. Why? Who the fuck knows. But is it Western medicine? Yes.

And if you look at a lot of our popular medicines and their histories, a lot are rooted in naturally occuring compounds used in older forms of medicine or serendipitous discovery, where science is used to refine it.

Just a little nitpick I had to bring up.
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