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Hmm, How about Orlando/Great Old One/(WOD)Mummy Immortalty.
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Yes, I knew that, I was just thinking how his mother held him when she dipped him, by the heel, not the ankle?Paris shot him in the heel - his one vulnerable spot. If the arrow had hit elsewhere, it would not have pieced his skin. Go look it up dude. "Achilles' Heel" is a synonym for a weakness, and it comes from this event in the Iliad.
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The achilles tendon stretches along the back of the heel and ankle, so I would assume grasping along the back of the ankle, with fingers and thumb over the knobby bone. That seems (from some *ahem* wrestling) to provide the best hold of the foot with a grasp on only one side.Shrykull wrote:Yes, I knew that, I was just thinking how his mother held him when she dipped him, by the heel, not the ankle?Paris shot him in the heel - his one vulnerable spot. If the arrow had hit elsewhere, it would not have pieced his skin. Go look it up dude. "Achilles' Heel" is a synonym for a weakness, and it comes from this event in the Iliad.
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I've always wondered why the dumb bitch didn't have him stick his foot in afterwards...Shrykull wrote:Yes, I knew that, I was just thinking how his mother held him when she dipped him, by the heel, not the ankle?Paris shot him in the heel - his one vulnerable spot. If the arrow had hit elsewhere, it would not have pieced his skin. Go look it up dude. "Achilles' Heel" is a synonym for a weakness, and it comes from this event in the Iliad.
But on the topic at hand, I'd take it in an instant. Hopefully, in my lifetime I will.
As far as living an arbitrarily long time goes, I'd want to die eventually unless travel to other universes is found, because heat-death sucks, and also the deal with only being able to store a finite amount of information with a given ammount of mass... Even if I could be an eternally expanding Omega Being it would just be endless repitition of a huge but finite number of thoughts.
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I fyou don't believe in an afterlife, the thought of dying is not very intriguing.
I'd take immortality any time. I just want to see the future. Until there's nothing more to see.
I'd take immortality any time. I just want to see the future. Until there's nothing more to see.
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I'd want absolute immortality, just to see the end of the universe. By then, I should be able to figure out how to suspend my consciousness in some sort of bubble of "unreality," apart from the universe, but still able to observe it.
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[twilight zone music]Alferd Packer wrote:I'd want absolute immortality, just to see the end of the universe. By then, I should be able to figure out how to suspend my consciousness in some sort of bubble of "unreality," apart from the universe, but still able to observe it.
But what if the expanding universe putters out and you left with nothing but your thoughts, with the density of space being essentially zero. The last photon you see somehow remind you of Shania Twain's song "Man, I feel like a woman"... and with no outside influence you have it stuck in your brain for eternity. Would an eternity of nothing but your own thoughts and the ever-repeating "Man, I feel like a woman, dat daaa daa da dat...." eventually make it living torture?
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Well, perhaps I'd get so bored that I'd make my own universe inside my head.
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Actually, it was a regular arrow. Paris was killed by a poisoned arrow, but Achilles was killed by a regular arrow--guided by Apollo, I believe.Shrykull wrote:That's not what I heard, I heard that Paris shot him in the ankle with a poison arrow that that's what killed him.I believe he was still immortal as a grasshopper. And being dipped didn't make Achilles immortal, it made him invulnerable - except for his heel, where his mother held him. This was where he was wounded during the siege of Troy, and he bled to death. This is where the term "Achilles' Heel" comes from.
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Re: immortality
To preserve my body in its current state, and only to be killed by trauma? I would accept that; on the condition that the preservation, being total, also endlessly maintains what is acculated after it; knowledge and suchlike, or wounds if received and not healed through mortal working. I do not think I'd want to be perfect, after all.Enforcer Talen wrote:would you want it? what would you do with it?
Who wouldn't? There's something terrifyingly appealing about the chance to see the revolutions of ten thousand years played out before your eyes.... I'd write it all down, too, I imagine. Eventually, I suppose, you wouldn't be able to stand it anymore. But if you could take your own life then, that would be acceptable, would it not?
One lifespan isn't enough.... I'm going to die hopelessly ignorant. Ten thousand lifespans wouldn't be enough; I would still die ignorant, but I would be a bit closer to some understanding of this marvelous universe I live in.
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