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GM Crops Cause Climate Change?

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For those not in the being subject to this hilarious drivel.
BBC News wrote:
Charles in GM 'disaster' warning


Companies developing genetically modified crops risk creating the biggest environmental disaster "of all time", Prince Charles has warned.


GM crops were damaging Earth's soil and were an experiment "gone seriously wrong", he told the Daily Telegraph.

A future reliance on corporations to mass-produce food would drive millions of farmers off their land, he said.

The government said it welcomed all voices in the "important" debate over the future potential role of GM crops.

However, Dr Julian Little, chairman of the Agricultural Biotechnology Council, said he was "disappointed" by the Prince's comments because "they do not seem to be based on any solid evidence".

"Our experience from over 10 years of GM cultivation shows that GM technology has been found to deliver real environmental and economic benefits," he said.

Mr Little added: "At a time when demand for food and fuel is rising and in the face of growing environmental challenges, we need to find ways to feed an ever-increasing global population."

BBC royal correspondent Nicholas Witchell said the Prince's "robust" comments were "likely to rankle with the government", which has given the go-ahead to a number of GM crop trials in the UK since 2000.

"Even for a prince who's a long-established champion of organic farming and critic of GM crops, these are comments which verge on the extreme," our correspondent said.

Prince Charles told the newspaper that huge multi-national corporations involved in developing GM foods were conducting a "gigantic experiment with nature and the whole of humanity which has gone seriously wrong".

Relying on "gigantic corporations" for food would end in "absolute disaster", he warned.

"That would be the absolute destruction of everything... and the classic way of ensuring there is no food in the future."

What should be being debated was "food security not food production", he said.

He said GM developers might think they would be successful by having "one form of clever genetic engineering after another", but he believed "that will be guaranteed to cause the biggest disaster environmentally of all time".

Prince Charles, who has an organic farm on his Highgrove estate in Gloucestershire, said relying on big corporations for the mass production of food would not only threaten future food supplies but also force smaller producers out of business.

"If they think this is the way to go, we will end up with millions of small farmers all over the world being driven off their land into unsustainable, unmanageable, degraded and dysfunctional conurbations of unmentionable awfulness," he said.

The prince also told the Telegraph he hoped to see more family-run co-operative farms, with producers working with nature and not against it.

The Prince's comments come at a time of rising world food prices and food shortages.

The biotech industry says that GM technology can help combat world hunger and poverty by delivering higher yields from crops and also reduce the use of pesticides.

'Untenable'

In June, Environment Minister Phil Woolas said the government was ready to argue for a greater role for the technology.

But green groups and aid agencies have doubts about GM technology's effectiveness in tackling world hunger and have concerns about the long-term environmental impact.

Responding to the prince's comments, a spokeswoman for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said: "Safety will always be our top priority on this issue."

Anti-monarchy Campaign group Republic said: "Prince Charles is quickly making his position as heir to the throne untenable with his meddling in politics."
Made my feelings known elsewhere, and it does seem that Charles is becoming ever more, shall we say, disconnected with reality.

All that waiting for the throne and talking to plants must be doing him a bad turn.
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What a stupid bastard. Yeah, the disease-resistant photosynthesising PLANTS are a key player in global warming. Another reason I am a (real) republican.
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No, he thinks that its all an experiment gone wrong.

Isn't this the same guy that got caught using drugs? I'm pretty sure one of those royal twats were caught. Or supposedly caught.

Either way, the Prince seems to continue the royal family's proud tradition of insanity.
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Zixinus wrote:No, he thinks that its all an experiment gone wrong.

Isn't this the same guy that got caught using drugs? I'm pretty sure one of those royal twats were caught. Or supposedly caught.

Either way, the Prince seems to continue the royal family's proud tradition of insanity.
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I’m pretty sure the hot air coming out of Prince Charles head is a much bigger contributor to global warming then GM corps. I also very much wonder how much CO2 heating the multiple fucking castles occupied by the royal family produces? Those places can't be easy on the energy bills.
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We're talking about the same guy here who has been a long time advocate of homeopathy and even appointed a Royal Homeopath. He continually talks about whatever the tree-hugging hippies are telling him as if it's fact and acts as if because he's royalty his point of view should be valued over, oh, I don't know, people who actually know what they're talking about!

Shits me because this is yet another argument in which my mother in law will bring up the pompous git. When we argued about homeopathy she said something like "But the Royal family use it, and they'd have the best advisers telling them what worked!". So this morning when I read this in the paper and said Charles should stop speaking like he knows something about farming, she said she'd always agreed with his views on farming (she's a tree hugger too) and perhaps the paper took him out of context, and besides, how would I know. *Sigh*

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His attitude toward GM crops would change rather quickly if he were to solely live off of his crops after subjecting them to environmental conditions that simulate 3rd world growing conditions.
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Other than the possibility of monocultural diseases, something that's already a problem in modern day agriculture....... i really don't see how Gm crops can possibility bring about a massive disaster.
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GM crops would cause an environmental disaster in the long term, but not for the reasons that Prince Charles thinks. The problem with GM crops is the same as the problem with every other improvement in agricultural technology over the last 50 years: it has encouraged massive human population growth, especially in the third-world areas where these improvements are most needed, and which are coincidentally dominated by two fundie fucktard religions which advocate massive breeding at all costs: Catholicism and Islam.

Right now, the single biggest environmental problem on the planet is the sheer number of people we're putting on it.
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GM crops were damaging Earth's soil and were an experiment "gone seriously wrong", he told the Daily Telegraph.

A future reliance on corporations to mass-produce food would drive millions of farmers off their land, he said.
Yeah, as opposed to Mars' soil. Also, what's stopping 'family-run co-ops' from growing GM crops? It just buying one seed type instead of another.

BTW, I don't see anything in there about climate change or global warming. Just vague overtures of 'science gone mad'.
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I'd have more respect for the Prince if he actually stated that human populations were the biggest threat. It's funny, but I don't know of many public figures who acknowledge that fundamental fact that underpins everything that happens in the world. Anyone who states there are too many of us is immediately shot down as a nihilist or someone who hates kids and progress.

People need to break out of this genetic programming that we need to populate the planet as much as possible. It will be our undoing if we maintain this state of affairs without a paradigm shift to accept that we have enough people, and should focus more on helping those with less resources to live more comfortably and to not use any extra energy thrown their way to produce more of themselves.
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This is ridiculous. GM crops take less work to grow than "organic" bullshit, which last time I checked results in less greenhouse gases and higher crop yields.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:I'd have more respect for the Prince if he actually stated that human populations were the biggest threat.
Considering that this guy runs an Aston Martin on alcohol fuel made of surplus british wine, I can already picture the headlines on The Sun: "Prince Charles gone MAD: says humans threat to humanity".
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