ACLU has a new forum!!!

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-02-05 09:52pm

HemlockGrey wrote:I shall march into the fray tomorrow eve.

Double post

[Nelson] Ha-Ha! [/Nelson]

Nova Andromeda · Post by **Nova Andromeda** » 2003-02-05 10:50pm

--From what I can tell we have tentative control over creationism vs evolution. I think our full power should be brought against the SCUM called libby from: ww.aclj.org
-She needs prosecuted for ruthless trolling, slander, and host of other crimes against liberty and logic!

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-02-05 11:49pm

I tried posting in the Free Speech forum, but I was censored

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-02-06 12:48am

I would not proclaim victory just yet. Their initial incursion has been smashed and utterly routed, but I'm sure some of them have gone crying back to whatever fundy board they came from to gather reinforcements. Be ready for a second wave of them trying to overwhelm you with sheer numbers, along with a few shock troops who are skilled enough rhetorically that they won't just blunder into a trap.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-06 12:50am

I'm still waiting for one of these fuckers to put his money where his mouth is and take the Mark 16:18 poison challenge.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-02-06 12:56am

You're not supposed to test God. There was some verse about it.

Rather convenient, isn't it

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-02-06 01:07am

Exonerate wrote:You're not supposed to test God. There was some verse about it.

Rather convenient, isn't it

Technically since to them there is no possibility of failure, it isn't really a test.

Kosh_The_Vorlon · Post by **Kosh_The_Vorlon** » 2003-02-06 01:28am

Darth Wong wrote:I'm still waiting for one of these fuckers to put his money where his mouth is and take the Mark 16:18 poison challenge.

What was that one again?

Strafe · Post by **Strafe** » 2003-02-06 01:46am

Kosh_The_Vorlon wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I'm still waiting for one of these fuckers to put his money where his mouth is and take the Mark 16:18 poison challenge.
What was that one again?

Simply put there is a verse, Mark 16:18 that basically states that the faithful would be able to drink poison and suffer no ill effects.

In other words drink some cyanide.

Taken figuratively, there is no problem, taken literally you have to wonder how long the fundies hold on to their literalism...

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-02-06 01:53am

Members of SD.net are operating over there to debate the creationists and other morons. Anyone wishing to join them may do so, so long as they refrain from trolling or violating the rules of conduct on that site.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-02-06 07:55am

Exonerate wrote:You're not supposed to test God. There was some verse about it.

The Mark 16:18 challenge is not to test God, for we already know Him to be perfect. It is to test the believer.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-02-06 09:46am

I'm actualy somewhat dissapointed, the fundies aren't even putting up a fight. I was actualy expecting to get in to a proper fight, but so far I've encountered just one loon spouting nonsense.
Well, the fundies will soon get their act together, they always do (as much as a bunch of irrational loons can anyway), as they never give up.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-02-06 01:58pm

News from the front

The creationist shits are in full retreat, and are fleeing into the other forums. We are currently pursuing them within the Alternative Views and Religious Freedom forums. Upon our arrival, we came across one of Pat Robertson's dark minions, Libby. This particular breed of fundie is one that SD.net has yet to encounter. Libby contributes next to nothing to the board, she/he/it simply post cut and paste bullshit straight from various CBN and ACLJ websites. Nonetheless, we will eventually take down this concentrated peice of stupidity. As to the other fundies, we will cut them off, and then we will kill them.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-02-06 02:12pm

i've found my own home in the abortion board.
Guess who's there as well? Yes, it's Libby!

Nova Andromeda · Post by **Nova Andromeda** » 2003-02-07 01:58am

--The time has come to reveal Libby as the scum it is for all to see. This post is one backup copy of the thread I started (which is just a beginning). I encourage others to help in revealing other scum since I don't have the time to do it quickly.

The purpose of this thread is to counter abuses of the ACLU forums.

Current list of offenders:

1. Libby: Fundamentalist asshole from the [L=CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network)]http://www.cbn.com/[/L] and [L=ACLJ]http://www.aclj.org/[/L] (sworn enemies of the ACLU bent on turning the U.S.A. into Christian Theocray). S/he is currently the worst offender. S/he is guilty of lying, slander, misinformation, bigoty, general idiocy, trolling, spamming, and a host of other offenses. See evidence 1 below for proof.
2. ACLoserU Apparently the same person as Libby (ask Hegwitch). Even if that is not the case s/he uses the same tactics and sources as Libby.

Useful Definitions
[L=Troll]http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/t.html#troll[/L]
[L=Spam]http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/s.html#spam[/L]

Evidence 1: Libby Offenses
--Trolling:
"Mohammed was a pervert, and liar, and a child molester." From [L=here]http://forums6.aclu.org/messageview.cfm ... eadid=3302[/L].
--Spamming:
In many forums Libby accounts for 25-50% of the threads as of 08-02-03 (that could be easily combined). Most of these threads are cuts and paste jobs from CBN or ACLJ with outright lies, missinformation, religious intollerance, etc. Example forum [L=here]http://forums6.aclu.org/categories.cfm?catid=93[/L].
--Lies and Missinformation:
A. "... people have been mislead by the ACLU into thinking the first
amendment requires schools, libraries, parks, and community centers to deny space to religious organizations." From [L=here]forums3.aclu.org/messageview.cfm?catid=77&threadid=3237[/L].
-ACLU: "Student religious clubs in secondary schools must be permitted to meet and to have equal access to campus media to announce their meetings, if a school receives federal funds and permits any student non- curricular club to meet during non-instructional time." From [L=here]http://www.aclu.org/ReligiousLiberty/Re ... 9007&c=139[/L]
B. "The ACLU likes to claim (wrongly) that government may not honor God or promote religious faith. Our nation was founded upon God, the Bible, and Ten Commandments." From [L=here]forums6.aclu.org/messageview.cfm?catid=81&threadid=3146[/L].
-A government that promotes a religious faith and honors God is a theocray as in the dark ages in Europe and the current government in Saudi Arabia. For are robust anhilation idiocy suggested above go [L=here]http://www.stardestroyer.net/Creationis ... ents.shtml[/L]. and [L=here]
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Creationis ... ration.pdf[/L] to view Mike Wong's 10 Commandments analysis and download selected quotes from the founding fathers of the U.S.A.
C. "The ACLU has an anti-faith, anti-Jewish bigotry agenda." From [L=here]forums6.aclu.org/messageview.cfm?catid=81&threadid=3146[/L].
--The ACLU fights to keep church and state separate thus preventing the government or its officers from favoring any one religion. This is not bigotry it is equality and freedom from government discrimination of minority religions. ACLU supporting doc. [L=here]http://www.aclu.org/ReligiousLiberty/Re ... tymain.cfm[/L]
D. "The ACLU tried to stop student Bible Clubs - contrary to what you may hear on this website." From [L=here]forums6.aclu.org/messageview.cfm?catid=81&threadid=3270[/L].
--Another patent lie. The ACLU position is [L=here]http://www.aclu.org/ReligiousLiberty/Re ... 9007&c=139[/L] under 13. Equal Access Act:
E. "The ACLU has failed to fight for the rights of any Christian clubs like this except one." From [L=here]forums3.aclu.org/messageview.cfm?catid=87&threadid=3088[/L].
--More missinformation designed to create the impression the ACLU discrimates against Christians (who happen to have the most power in the U.S.). Check [L=this]http://www.aclu.org/ReligiousLiberty/Re ... 8031&c=142[/L] out.
--Slander
Libby has accused the ACLU of supporting child pornography. "... it would support the sale and distribution of child porn murder. Sound like any group you know?" [L=Here]http://forums3.aclu.org/messageview.cfm ... eadid=3177[/L] is the thread. Ask Hedgwitch for details.
7. More misinformation from Libby:
--Bigotry
See the bigotry and hate of Libby for yourself [L=here]http://forums6.aclu.org/messageview.cfm ... eadid=3302[/L], [L=here]http://forums6.aclu.org/messageview.cfm ... eadid=3126[/L], and [L=here]http://forums6.aclu.org/messageview.cfm ... eadid=3085[/L]. These are just a few of the threads in which Libby maligns and attacks other faiths with unsubstantiated witness stories (read hoaxs) and/or lies.
--Idiocy
--There are so many examples you should be able to spot them by yourself. However, here is an example of the appeal to majority logical fallacy s/he employed: [L=Americans have grown progressively more pro-life]http://forums3.aclu.org/messageview.cfm ... eadid=3177[/L]. The majority oppinion on a subject is not necessarily true.

Volpent Eagle · Post by **Volpent Eagle** » 2003-02-09 07:10pm

Hi Im new here. Am good at arguuing. What do I do to play?

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-02-09 09:05pm

Volpent Eagle wrote:Hi Im new here. Am good at arguuing. What do I do to play?

It's a public forum. Go over there yourself and join the fight if you want. Just don't start proclaiming you're part of some invasion from SD.net. There's been more than enough nonsense about that here recently. We prefer to let the trolls discover our boards on their own.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-02-10 08:03am

New shit.

Fucking Lying Plagiarizing Bitch Cunt Known as Libby wrote:I am laughing at the AIIF... the Association of Incapable, Incompetent Failures!
They've gone down in flames after all that big talk.

Libby is posting her religious faith in almost every category, and all you can do is cower. What a joke!
You are powerless. You are defeated. You can do nothing to stop faith on the web.

What are you going to do? Talk big and deliver nothing again?
You can do nothing. You have no power.

Caught this on ACLU PM... I'm not interested in another War tho...

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-02-10 12:51pm

Nova Andromeda wrote:-IMHO the ACLU is the last bastion of freedom in the U.S.

-We must defend it from the onslaught of idiots and morons (which include myself if Darth Wong if to be believed)!

-It is time to anhilate the arguements of creationists and their ilk like the virulant diseases they are.

-The world simply cannot afford to let the U.S. be overrun and comsumed by fundamentalist!

Yes. We must stifle any arguments from these degenerates. Their diseased voice must be silenced at all cost, to protect our youth. Dissent must not be tolerated.

I'm sorry... you guys know by now that I had to say something about this.