How do we know hell is hellish?

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Post by Darth Gojira »

Satan is supposedly in charge of Hell(there are variations, though)
YHWH is in charge of Heaven.

Satan seems to be a decent guy. YHWH, of course, is a homicidal nutcase.

Who are you going to believe(as in suspension of disbelief, not literally)?
Or rather, who would you like to hang out with?

I'm going with the mythical "bad guy" rather than the mythical "good guy"
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Re: Free Will

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Durandal wrote:
Kuroneko wrote:Do you think there is a "best possible" state of affairs? Or do you think that for any given condition the world is in, there is always room for improvement?
I'd assume that that would be Heaven. I'm really to cynical to dream up a perfect world, but I think it'd involve lots of fucking.
It was intended as a serious question. One says quite a bit about the free will of the agents within it (read: virtually brainwashed), while the other makes God immune from blame in consequentalist ethics.

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Re: Free Will

Post by Raoul Duke, Jr. »

Captain Underling wrote:Actually, God gave man free will. And the bible was written by men inspired by god, so is full of little (or big) mistakes. (According to the Vatican.)

In my opinion, the reason God allows the devil to walk among us is that without an ultimate evil, how do we know good? (Assuming the devil is bad of course.) I think you people are forgetting that the devil was originally created as a focus point of evil. People don't like to take responsibility. "I'm not at fault. It's the devil/insert your own ultimite evil being here who made the world such a bad place." Its easier to blame the devil (or even God) then accept you let people do these things. One example: those who blame god when accidents happen, instead of accepting that if people didn't drink and drive, less people would be killed.
Actually, there is yet another explanation (for those who choose to suspend disbelief) as to why people have the idea that Satan & Co. are in hell, when the Bible depicts them wandering about amongst us... we are in Hell. Right now. This is it, here we are, Hell, woo ha. (Actually, I believe Hell Proper is about seven miles northwest of my current position -- which causes me to suspect that Satan is actually none other than Alice Cooper.)
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