Dirty Dozen

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-04-17 09:54am

http://www.lionlamb.org/Dirty_2k-02.htm

http://www.lionlamb.org/Dirty_2k-01.htm

http://www.lionlamb.org/Dirty_99-2k.htm

I remembered this site, and wanted to see if they made a new one for '02-'03, but no such luck. Pity.

At worse, they seem to be the less-fundie Toy version of CAPalert, but I wonder if they actually may have a point. What do you think?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-04-17 10:17am

You know those reviews really suck. They don't really say why not to buy the products really.

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-04-17 10:30am

::Sighs:: Typical censorship. Obviously, as soon as a kid sees a Goku action figure, they're going to want to start fighting. Obviously when a kid plays Rainbow 6, he's going to don SWAT gear and hunt down a terrorist group. Obviously GI Joes are the cause of war.

::Sighs again:: These are the same people who say that porn leads to rape, that violence on TV leads to homicide, and that movies like Silence of the Lambs lead to serial murders. Fine, but when your kid drowns trying to walk on water, I wanna see someone blame the fucking bible.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-04-17 02:00pm

Such Politically Correct nonsense comes as no surprise to me, except for one thing which truly makes be dumbstruck:

Why the heck are there no Games Workshop products listed???

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2003-04-17 02:12pm

Speechless.............

BTW, has anything in the US actually been banned or dropped sales because of something like that? (I'm aware about what Fredric Wertham did to comics....)

ps.
I'm gonna put these links on the local BBS and see what the rabid AMG fans and the censor-everything-fun legislators/officials/guys are gonna say.....

Edit: something shameless about a flamebait

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-04-17 02:18pm

I doubt it has dropped sales too much. I don't think it gets enough publicity among people that would potentially buy them to cause any drop in demand.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-04-17 02:22pm

Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:Speechless.............

BTW, has anything in the US actually been banned or dropped sales because of something like that? (I'm aware about what Fredric Wertham did to comics....)

Well...

http://www.retrocrush.com/archive/monsterscenes/

But on the subject of Lion/Lamb....

Why the heck is there not a single mention of Games Workshop or Warhammer Fantasy Battle on their site??

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-04-17 06:01pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:Speechless.............

BTW, has anything in the US actually been banned or dropped sales because of something like that? (I'm aware about what Fredric Wertham did to comics....)
Well...

http://www.retrocrush.com/archive/monsterscenes/

But on the subject of Lion/Lamb....

Why the heck is there not a single mention of Games Workshop or Warhammer Fantasy Battle on their site??

Probably because they have never heard of it.

Shall we fix that?

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-04-17 10:08pm

Wow. That's pretty dumb. Like CAPalert, it takes little things and says it's just as bad as something worse (You know how people say that children will be scarred for life when they see something really obscene? CAPalert seems to think that use of God's name in vain will do just that.). At least they don't appeal to the Bible when mentioning them.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-04-18 12:28am

Hold it the 2002 list has DOOM!!!!
What's wrong they couldn't find the newer version?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-04-18 12:38am

You know, they probably would have more of an impact if they just said everything had small parts and shouldn't be given to kids.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-04-18 02:25am

SyntaxVorlon wrote:Hold it the 2002 list has DOOM!!!!
What's wrong they couldn't find the newer version?

Isn't it the Gameboy Advance version of DOOM they list?? They have probably noticed the PC version a long time ago!

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2003-04-18 03:57am

Simon H.Johansen wrote: Well...

http://www.retrocrush.com/archive/monsterscenes/

But on the subject of Lion/Lamb....

Why the heck is there not a single mention of Games Workshop or Warhammer Fantasy Battle on their site??

[rant]
From where I live sometimes these things are really some kind of scheme to take down something from the racks: To many rabid Japoholics? Start debasing anime, manga, and video games about the violence, nudity, sex, 'distorted values', start hunting for H-comics and neglect what the bookstores say, complain about the violence in those imported TV series.

And then?
Manga covers have 1/10 space printed with the ratings. (Good thing no one cares about the US comics...so they survive.)
No anime on TV....all cartoons are child oriented.
Video games stay still...since the price is high and it's hard to control.
Turn on the TV, you get: Soap operas about ridiculously emphasized family affairs distorting the family value, variety shows full of foul language and lousy entertainment. News about criminals blowing themselves up, sexual affairs, fighting legislators....etc

Then?
Teenagers are so bored they either gang up (weapons included) on their motorcycles and do some road racing, or they hang in netcafes for long hours playing multiplayer on-line games, or....stay bored.
[/rant]

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-04-18 04:25am

Nothing like a good deal of ranting!

But what does my comment about Lion-Lamb's ignorance of Games Workshop really have to do with your rant?

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-04-18 11:01am

Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote: Well...

http://www.retrocrush.com/archive/monsterscenes/

But on the subject of Lion/Lamb....

Why the heck is there not a single mention of Games Workshop or Warhammer Fantasy Battle on their site??
[rant]
From where I live sometimes these things are really some kind of scheme to take down something from the racks: To many rabid Japoholics? Start debasing anime, manga, and video games about the violence, nudity, sex, 'distorted values', start hunting for H-comics and neglect what the bookstores say, complain about the violence in those imported TV series.

And then?
Manga covers have 1/10 space printed with the ratings. (Good thing no one cares about the US comics...so they survive.)
No anime on TV....all cartoons are child oriented.
Video games stay still...since the price is high and it's hard to control.
Turn on the TV, you get: Soap operas about ridiculously emphasized family affairs distorting the family value, variety shows full of foul language and lousy entertainment. News about criminals blowing themselves up, sexual affairs, fighting legislators....etc

Then?
Teenagers are so bored they either gang up (weapons included) on their motorcycles and do some road racing, or they hang in netcafes for long hours playing multiplayer on-line games, or....stay bored.
[/rant]

Teens will get greased hair, go to drive-ins, and have rumbles with socs.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-04-18 11:51am

SyntaxVorlon wrote:Hold it the 2002 list has DOOM!!!!
What's wrong they couldn't find the newer version?

That is the newer version. That is to say, they're talking about DOOM for the Game Boy Advanced, not the PC original.

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2003-04-18 05:09pm

The only way they'll get my "Age of Empire" CD (cartoon blood, no rating) is to pry it from my cold, dead, grip.

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-04-18 07:40pm

SyntaxVorlon wrote:Teens will get greased hair, go to drive-ins, and have rumbles with socs.

Thank GOD someone else read that book... I'm thoroughly impressed by the Outsiders reference. Kudos!

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-04-19 04:26am

Darth Gojira wrote:The only way they'll get my "Age of Empire" CD (cartoon blood, no rating) is to pry it from my cold, dead, grip.

Same deal for all my Games Workshop stuff, and my Bal-Sagoth albums.