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defanatic wrote:Do you think this guy goes onto creationist/christian forums and asks
"Hey! This guy support evolution. I need an argument to demolish him. Here is what he wrote:"

???
Except I'm not really doing this for other ideas, although they do help. I've smashed most of his crap on my own as could just about anyone with an IQ over 100. I just like to share his stupidity and hopefully others can laugh at it too; living up to the board's moto--mockery of stupid people.

And hoping Mike will include it on his hatemail page :)
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He is STILL comming back for more!
Pretty much every one of your refutations were inadequate and in some cases false. You are not being scientific or logical but merely trying to prove a point. That does not show much love of truth. True science explores truth no matter where it leads and also admits its limitations. One of those limitations is the existence of God. You will continue to be prejudiced and poorly informed until you take the time to explore and understand the ideas of those with which you disagree. And maybe the most important thing for you to study would be religion because you don't seem to know much about it. I would also advise you not to believe everything that "experts" tell you because human beings have an annoying habit of being biased. So good bye and good luck.
More vague accusations and preaching. This guy never changes.
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Darth Servo wrote:He is STILL comming back for more!
Pretty much every one of your refutations were inadequate and in some cases false. You are not being scientific or logical but merely trying to prove a point. That does not show much love of truth. True science explores truth no matter where it leads and also admits its limitations. One of those limitations is the existence of God. You will continue to be prejudiced and poorly informed until you take the time to explore and understand the ideas of those with which you disagree. And maybe the most important thing for you to study would be religion because you don't seem to know much about it. I would also advise you not to believe everything that "experts" tell you because human beings have an annoying habit of being biased. So good bye and good luck.
More vague accusations and preaching. This guy never changes.
Conensed Version: Your 'science' is no good. Not compared to my 'Science'. Also: Jesus Hates you. BTW, you will always suck unless you decide to believe in the first thing someone tells you. Trust no one! Experts stink! Grrr. Now excuse me while I run before I get further humiliated.
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Tell me, are you completely incapable of discussing this as an adult? You rarely address my points and instead just preach at me. You never use specific examples but instead make vague generalizations.
Pretty much every one of your refutations were inadequate and in some cases false.
Yet you can't even show why or give specific examples. As usual, you just make empty accusations and hope I will accept them on blind faith since that is the way YOU operate and you are clearly incapable of seeing any other way of doing things.
You are not being scientific or logical but merely trying to prove a point.
Um, proving a point is what one is SUPPOSED to do in a debate. What would you think if I acted this way, ignored all of YOUR arguments by saying, "you're just trying to prove your side"? See how ridiculous your mentality is when the OTHER guy uses it?

Besides, whats the difference? Sicence IS about trying to prove a point. I'll tell you the difference. Science uses MEASURABLE, OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE (the way I have done) but it NEVER relys on "so-and-so said so" they way YOU always do.
That does not show much love of truth.
Wrong as usual. YOUR complete inability to back up any of your claims is what fails to show love of truth.

You have utterly FAILED to show that your side is "truth"
True science explores truth no matter where it leads and also admits its limitations.
And where have either I or science failed to do this?

YOU are the one who repeatdly tries to support his position based on "so-and-so says so". I have based my postition on EVIDENCE.
One of those limitations is the existence of God.
No one has ever been able to demonstrate objectively that he exists. People MUST take his existance on FAITH.
You will continue to be prejudiced and poorly informed until you take the time to explore and understand the ideas of those with which you disagree.
On the contrary, I HAVE explored ideas with those I disagreed with. Thats how I accepted evolution in the first place.

YOU on the other hand bury your head in the sand and refuse to look at the evidence FOR evolution or even my arguments, hence your refusal to debate this discussion point by point the way I have done. Meanwhile you blindly accept every non-sensical creationist argument in the book even though they were shot down decades ago.
And maybe the most important thing for you to study would be religion because you don't seem to know much about it.
I clearly know much more about the Bible than you do since I have been the one who repeatedly references explicit verses while you just make vague generalizations.
I would also advise you not to believe everything that "experts" tell you because human beings have an annoying habit of being biased.
I could say the same about the Bible.

Accusations of bias are not logically valid. Its what is known as an "ad-hominem fallacy" and someone like you who claims to know about philosophy should know that. Thanks for proving you were lying about being well educated in philosophy.
So good bye and good luck.
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Christ, that message doesn't even warrant a point by point refutation. Hit the guy with his own medicine: write a 10 page article with only one overall mesage: I am right and you are wrong.
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wolveraptor wrote:Christ, that message doesn't even warrant a point by point refutation. Hit the guy with his own medicine: write a 10 page article with only one overall mesage: I am right and you are wrong.
Isn't that really how any argument works?
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No. The more you write, the more content you are supposed to have. This guy has mastered teh bureaucratic art of saying much but meaning little. Furthermore, one is supposed to provide reasons why one is right, unlike Jackoffman.
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It is'nt hard to say a great many words while speaking almost no meaning. It's something our public figures and politicians have been subtly teaching us for a great many years now. Mastering the art of bullshitting is something many of us learn in our earlier years, typically in middle school. Often, bullshitting is not just limited to usage of long words and long-winded sentinces. There have been many instances in the past in which one bullshit idea is stretched into several sentinces. Several sentinces can carry on one bullshit idea. A simple way to do this is to simply manipulate the order of the words. Manipulating the order of words is a simple way to gain extra mileage out of one meaningless idea.

If the above example hasn't proven my point, I don't know what will. Bullshitting is easy. It doesn't require mastery or talent. This fellow, however, manages to do it and actually believe with every bit in him that he's right. THAT takes either great skill at self-delusion, or great stupidity. Guess which I'm leaning towards...
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Has this guy ever actually refuted one of your points?

All I can come up with is him digging up new arguments rather than maintaining the old ones (because he has little faith in them?).
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Darth Servo wrote:They [creationist boards] mindlessly spout the exact same bullshit there. The fact that creationist tards are still using the same refuted arguments for the last century proves they are incapable of comming up with something new. Even the one semi-original argument in the guy's last email was really just the same old "science isn't perfect, therefore its wrong" nonsense.
Shit, and that argument would boomarang on themselves, too! The bible is verifiably not perfect as well (my fav is it gives the wrong answer for pi), so by that line of argument, their Bible is wrong too! Nice going, genius! For all you know, that stack of wood pulp you use as your brain (that you have just shown to be a book of lies) might have been written by Satan, the Prince of Lies and your lord and master!

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