Teen Creationism

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-08-18 02:03am

Priesto wrote:
Darth Yoshi wrote:
Priesto wrote:
Actually Darth yoshi they did.I'll let you figure it out though.
[sarcasm]How morally superior.[/sarcasm] Punishing millions of people for the actions of what, 200 at most (counting those who jeered)? Besides, the Jews had already been suffering for at least 1000 years before that. They were pariahs in Europe, Mohammed imposed Islam on them, and they were scattered across the old world. You're saying that even after all that, Jews deserved genocide? What a vindictive God. I wouldn't worship someone like that.

Those few had children and they then grew.You must realize that the sin was this bad.That's the price you pay for crucifying the son of God.The jews weren't wiped out or something, but those who were taken were in the blood line of those ancient people.To free a murderer instead of an innoocent person is clearly wrong.You believe the children of the wicked should live and become contamintated like them? The Chosen people who knew better knew the consequences, when it was too late.

Meanwhile back in reality..

So you believe its okay to kill some one based not on their actions but on what there parents did?

Can't we just ban people who classify as criminaly insane? Reasoning with this nut is clearly pointless.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-08-18 02:09am

Start a vote, then.

Priesto · Post by **Priesto** » 2002-08-18 02:21am

Meanwhile back in reality..

So you believe its okay to kill some one based not on their actions but on what there parents did?

Can't we just ban people who classify as criminaly insane? Reasoning with this nut is clearly pointless.[/quote]

I never said the murdering of anyone was okay.Judgement and murder are not the same.Anyways, punishment is for the better as well.Besides, the taking of ones life and the sending of one to hell are not the same either.Some were taken to be in a better place with God.What matters is going to hell or heaven.The taken of someones life on earth is not some evil thing you make it out to be, for those who murder still suffer.It may appear wrong, but God allowed it to happen for the betterment of that person. IF God wanted to punish, he'd leave you alive to let you suffer physical and mental pains for a period.Through disease, starvation or whatever.You see it is quite the opposite to what you think.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » 2002-08-18 02:25am

Priesto wrote:Those few had children and they then grew. You must realize that the sin was this bad. That's the price you pay for crucifying the son of God.

Luke 23:34 wrote: Then Jesus said, 'Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.'

Wow, it seems like Jesus was of the opinion that ignorance is an excuse.

Priesto wrote:The jews weren't wiped out or something, but those who were taken were in the blood line of those ancient people.To free a murderer instead of an innoocent person is clearly wrong.You believe the children of the wicked should live and become contamintated like them? The Chosen people who knew better knew the consequences, when it was too late.

You not only believe in guilt by association, you believe being related by blood is enough to secure guilt? Fuck, I hope you never have the chance to inflict that attitude on children.

Basically, you are saying Hitler's Holocaust was justified, because 2000 years ago some Jews encouraged some Romans to crucify a preacher who some claimed to be the Son of God. You then go on to say that the 'reason' it was justified was because all of the Jews killed in the Holocaust shared the bloodlines of the Jews responsible for the crucifixion. That is just so fucking reprehensible (not to mention moronic) that I can't even begin to describe it. . .

How is it possible to be that fucking clueless, and still be able to operate a computer? I would have said it was impossible, but it appears I have been proven wrong!

(As for banning Priesto, I say nay. What better argument could we ask for as to why faith is no good indicator of decent morals?)

Nick · Post by **Nick** » 2002-08-18 02:31am

Mr Bean wrote:The Human Brain has neruos, These Neruos act very very close to computers

They are either *On or Off
Thus they can be said to be using Binary

As someone earlier said, this is a gross mischaracterisation of the way neurons work. They can be fully activated, and fully deactivated, but they can also possess any value between these two points. The brain is a massively parallel analog computer, not a digital one. Neurotransmitters (chemicals in your brain) also affect transfers between neurons, so even the different activation levels of the neurons don't tell the whole story.

The digital (on/off) perspective is a simplification used when studying certain problems - kind of like the way Newton's laws of mechanics are a simplification used to work with certain kinds of physics problems.

Priesto · Post by **Priesto** » 2002-08-18 02:43am

Lives are taken for the better.It's sad, but it had to happen unfortunately though it is for the better.The children of the wicked will not suffer the fate of the wicked, Eternity in hell.Hitler was an evil man, but this antichrist was allowed to do what he did for a period.You know the rest, when God allowed the allies to advance stopping the germans through a snowy storm, something the Germans didn't know how to adapt to.All bad is allowed to happen for a reason, to make us stronger.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » 2002-08-18 03:11am

Priesto wrote:All bad is allowed to happen for a reason, to make us stronger.

In other words:

God is good.
God allows bad things to happen.
Therefore, bad things are ultimately good.

Priesto, do you even grasp the concept that circular reasoning is moronic?

Priesto · Post by **Priesto** » 2002-08-18 03:19am

No, God uses Evil to do good, so in a sense it is good.If you give into the evil, how can it be good?Evil acts on itself,but God will only allow so much to happen in our lives, man takes in evil upon his own choice.AND EVEN IF YOU DO NOT, God loves us and satan wants to devour us. So it is not a moronic statement unless viewed with a lack of understanding.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-08-18 05:54am

Priesto wrote:No, God uses Evil to do good, so in a sense it is good.If you give into the evil, how can it be good?Evil acts on itself,but God will only allow so much to happen in our lives, man takes in evil upon his own choice.AND EVEN IF YOU DO NOT, God loves us and satan wants to devour us. So it is not a moronic statement unless viewed with a lack of understanding.

And SATAN exists because?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-08-18 05:55am

God is good, God dislikes evil, God is all powerful and yet Satan exists, how pray tell does that one work?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-08-18 06:05am

Priesto wrote:
Darth Yoshi wrote:
Priesto wrote:
Actually Darth yoshi they did.I'll let you figure it out though.
[sarcasm]How morally superior.[/sarcasm] Punishing millions of people for the actions of what, 200 at most (counting those who jeered)? Besides, the Jews had already been suffering for at least 1000 years before that. They were pariahs in Europe, Mohammed imposed Islam on them, and they were scattered across the old world. You're saying that even after all that, Jews deserved genocide? What a vindictive God. I wouldn't worship someone like that.

Those few had children and they then grew.You must realize that the sin was this bad.That's the price you pay for crucifying the son of God.The jews weren't wiped out or something, but those who were taken were in the blood line of those ancient people.To free a murderer instead of an innoocent person is clearly wrong.You believe the children of the wicked should live and become contamintated like them? The Chosen people who knew better knew the consequences, when it was too late.

1) Jesus = Just a man
2)he was crucified by the romans. Your bible will tell you otherwise, however the prscence of a centurion and his troops kind of reveals that it was the romans. The reason the bible depicts Pilate as 'washing his hands of the matter' is mostly due to constantinan editing. In case you don't kniow that was when the emperor Constantine made Christianity the State religion of rome. A mistake if yuo ask me.
3) Yahway!!! puunishes people for the crimes of their forefatehrs?
My what a LOVING FORGIVING KIND AND FAIR, who is well qualified to 'judge'

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-08-18 07:55am

How can anyone claim the God of the OT is a nice guy thats why Catholism basically drops the OT and instead focuses on the NT, alot of the other christian religions do the same.

The ones that dont give rise to fundermentalist wackos who think the earth was made out of freeze dried insta-planet mix.

Sothis · Post by **Sothis** » 2002-08-18 08:26am

Priesto wrote:Lives are taken for the better.It's sad, but it had to happen unfortunately though it is for the better.The children of the wicked will not suffer the fate of the wicked, Eternity in hell.Hitler was an evil man, but this antichrist was allowed to do what he did for a period.You know the rest, when God allowed the allies to advance stopping the germans through a snowy storm, something the Germans didn't know how to adapt to.All bad is allowed to happen for a reason, to make us stronger.

I can only hope you represent a minority amongst Christians. Certainly, I'd like to distance myself from your skewed view of Christianity.

Taking the lives of children because they might have sinned in the future is horrible, plain and simple. It's not for the better to deprive someone of the most sacred gift of all- life. The vast majority of Christians these days would condem such an act. As a Christian, I can tell you that what you call good, I, and everyone I know calls bad.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-08-18 01:13pm

Lives are taken for the better.It's sad, but it had to happen unfortunately though it is for the better.The children of the wicked will not suffer the fate of the wicked, Eternity in hell.Hitler was an evil man, but this antichrist was allowed to do what he did for a period.You know the rest, when God allowed the allies to advance stopping the germans through a snowy storm, something the Germans didn't know how to adapt to.All bad is allowed to happen for a reason, to make us stronger.
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According to you, all those that dont know jesus are going to hell. Because they where jews every, last, person is in hell for also according to you being related to the jews that crucified jesus.

Also, your god knew full well that jesus had to die for peoples sins, it was part of his"master plan" so why punish those that are just carrying out his will? got ya there didnt I?

And By your logic say my mother commits a suicide bombing of the white house and kills the president. It would be okay for the government to try me and my entire family for treason! all but one of us. thenseveral hundred generations later do the same thing killing dozens of my family members, just for being related to my mother. Fucking bullshit you religious fundamentalist moron!

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-08-18 01:15pm

Edit change "try me and my entire family for treason" to charge and convict me and my entire family for treason"

Darik Sdair · Post by **Darik Sdair** » 2002-08-18 02:11pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:Those descendants had nothing to do with it. Punishing them has no effect on the perpetrators, since they aren't alive anymore to know their descendants have been murdered. And they don't even know why they died. What's the point of punishing someone without telling him why? While we're on the Holocaust, what about Gypsies, who were also put into the death camps? What did they do?

Or more on point, how about the retarded people?

Anyway, doesn't this contradict the other thread where Priesto is saying Hitler is on a one-way course straight to hell? Sounds to me like Priesto thinks Hitler was doing God's Work (tm)

Darik Sdair · Post by **Darik Sdair** » 2002-08-18 02:17pm

Priesto wrote:You know the rest, when God allowed the allies to advance stopping the germans through a snowy storm, something the Germans didn't know how to adapt to.

Actually, I missed that part. What happened?

::snow starts to fall::

Nazi: Was ist das???? Snowen???????????? ARGHHHH!!!! Gott hast mich!!!! WE SURRENDEREN!!!!!!

::everyone (except for Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and anyone who God hated enough to put in a Russian occupation zone) lives happily ever after::

I wish those damn liberals wouldn't leave important things like this out of the history books.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-08-18 04:24pm

Darik Sdair wrote:
Priesto wrote:You know the rest, when God allowed the allies to advance stopping the germans through a snowy storm, something the Germans didn't know how to adapt to.
I wish those damn liberals wouldn't leave important things like this out of the history books.

Actually, I think he's talking about the way the Russian winter stopped the Nazi advance on Moscow, thus helping Stalin's troops gain the upper hand and drive them back. It would appear that our fundamentalist moron friend Priesto believes that God is a stalinist.

Mr. B · Post by **Mr. B** » 2002-08-18 05:06pm

OH HOW IRONIC. Priestos god is a stalinist. Figures, he likes killing infants to spite their parents.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-08-18 06:13pm

Comrade God! I said it before I'll say it agian

Darik Sdair · Post by **Darik Sdair** » 2002-08-18 09:41pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Darik Sdair wrote:
Priesto wrote:You know the rest, when God allowed the allies to advance stopping the germans through a snowy storm, something the Germans didn't know how to adapt to.
I wish those damn liberals wouldn't leave important things like this out of the history books.
Actually, I think he's talking about the way the Russian winter stopped the Nazi advance on Moscow, thus helping Stalin's troops gain the upper hand and drive them back. It would appear that our fundamentalist moron friend Priesto believes that God is a stalinist.

Ah, of course. I figured he was referring to the weather conditions in Winter '44 during Hitler's last big counterattack (Operation Ostwind aka the Battle of the Bulge).

Anyhow, its ironic how Priesto thinks that God believes atheist Communists are better rulers than devout Catholics. 'course, like Priesto says, Catholics are Ungodly.

Priesto · Post by **Priesto** » 2002-08-19 04:12am

What are you guys talking about? oh well fun is fun, no harm no foul.

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2002-08-19 04:18am

Priesto wrote:What are you guys talking about?

Your post. Or didn't you notice?

oh well fun is fun, no harm no foul.

Excellent. Do you acknowledge that harm = foul? God causes great harm to huge numbers of people in the Bible. Therefore, you are acknowledging that God is foul.

Sometimes, an excuse for such foul actions is self-defense, but of course, that would imply that God is worried that heathens might kill him, which would not befit an omnipotent being

Priesto · Post by **Priesto** » 2002-08-21 02:16am

AdmiralKanos wrote:
Priesto wrote:What are you guys talking about?
Your post. Or didn't you notice?
oh well fun is fun, no harm no foul.
Excellent. Do you acknowledge that harm = foul? God causes great harm to huge numbers of people in the Bible. Therefore, you are acknowledging that God is foul.

Sometimes, an excuse for such foul actions is self-defense, but of course, that would imply that God is worried that heathens might kill him, which would not befit an omnipotent being

Twisting words? I see.

Excuse?God is to explain his judgement to heathens?If you are wicked, you will not live a prosperous life.Do you believe otherwise? I guess it is okay to be wicked and commit sin, why would you be punished for that?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-08-21 05:45am

Here is god:
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