Redheads Extinct by 2100!?

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2007-01-20 05:32am

As someone who is homozygous recessive for redheadedness I volunteer to act as part of a "captive breeding program" to help bring the numbers up. I know it will be hard being confined to what will amount to a small country filled with sexy redheads going around and breeding with as many as possible, but someone has to do it and I acecpt my responsibility to help pass on the genes.

Covenant · Post by **Covenant** » 2007-01-20 05:52am

Superman wrote:Einy, that second chick down with the big tits looks good.

Yeah but can we get red hair without the pasty white skin tone?

We could do some genetic engineering or just very selective breeding, but they usually go hand-in-hand. The real thing is that the people who are redheads are predominantly from very limited stock. Redhead types also have an increased rate of sinus-related problems because of that similar reason.

I know it's possible for some redheads to get a tan, but the darkest I can get (even with brown hair on my head) is around 'medium rare' rather than an actual deeper tan like my brothers or Dad. Same goes for most of the redheads I know. Maybe Ein has a different experience? Darthdavid?

You certainly could spray the tan on. Less risk of skin cancer too!

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2007-01-20 07:36am

Einy, are all of those dudes? Because, well, it is you and all. Never know about those trannys.

Big Orange · Post by **Big Orange** » 2007-01-20 07:43am

I doubt that blonde hair, red hair and green or blue eyes will ever go extinct, since those features can crop up in many non-Caucasians as well (thus torpedoing Neo-Nazi assumptions of the "breeding out" of the "Aryan" race).

Pick · Post by **Pick** » 2007-01-20 10:10am

There's also a little thing called hair dye.

Braedley · Post by **Braedley** » 2007-01-20 10:29am

I think we will see a reduction in the number of redheads, but probably not on the same time scale as was suggested. Every time that a redhead has a child with someone who doesn't carry the gene, that child can only be a carrier, and then has only a 50% chance of passing it on to a later generation. Since redheads and carriers make up such a small proportion of the population (4% of people are redheads, therefore it is reasonable to assume that there is a further 8% of the population that carry the gene), chances are that the offspring of redheads won't be redheads, but just carriers. Of course, two carriers can give birth to a redhead, but the fact that the population is mixing fairly randomly means that for every carrier hooking up with another carrier, there is a smaller proportion hooking up with redheads, and there will be many carriers hooking up with non carriers.
A redhead-redhead combination and redhead-carrier combination strengthens the population, a carrier-carrier combination keeps the population stable, but a carrier-non-carrier combination weakens the population. By far, the most common will be the carrier-non-carrier.

Max · Post by **Max** » 2007-01-20 12:16pm

Rye wrote:Well, if they're dwindling into nonexistence, I don't really care. Anyone that wants to look ...ginger... can do so with the usual hair colouring chemicals.

omg.. I couldn't stop laughing when I read that! It's subtley funny, and reminded me of the gingerkids episode of southpark..haha

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-01-20 03:30pm

Covenant wrote:
Superman wrote:Einy, that second chick down with the big tits looks good.

Yeah but can we get red hair without the pasty white skin tone?
We could do some genetic engineering or just very selective breeding, but they usually go hand-in-hand. The real thing is that the people who are redheads are predominantly from very limited stock. Redhead types also have an increased rate of sinus-related problems because of that similar reason.

I know it's possible for some redheads to get a tan, but the darkest I can get (even with brown hair on my head) is around 'medium rare' rather than an actual deeper tan like my brothers or Dad. Same goes for most of the redheads I know. Maybe Ein has a different experience? Darthdavid?

You certainly could spray the tan on. Less risk of skin cancer too!

Redhair, light-colored eyes, and pale skin seem to be genetically linked somehow.

Maybe it's a general lack of melonin?

As a strawberry blonde, I have a horrible time getting a tan. 10 minutes in bright sunlight (or a tanningbed) will burn me. 5 minutes if I'm not wearing the SPF 30-45. The worst part is that I burn lobster red, start peeling within a few days, and am back to patsy white within two weeks.

Again, in my Limited Experience (sends Ayleska a pointed look), this rapid burn/peel/white cycle is common to redheads.

SVPD · Post by **SVPD** » 2007-01-20 03:57pm

LadyTevar wrote: Redhair, light-colored eyes, and pale skin seem to be genetically linked somehow. Maybe it's a general lack of melonin?

As a strawberry blonde, I have a horrible time getting a tan. 10 minutes in bright sunlight (or a tanningbed) will burn me. 5 minutes if I'm not wearing the SPF 30-45. The worst part is that I burn lobster red, start peeling within a few days, and am back to patsy white within two weeks.

Again, in my Limited Experience (sends Ayleska a pointed look), this rapid burn/peel/white cycle is common to redheads.

I'm in the same boat. I burn very easily (10-15 minutes without strong sunblock). I have strawberry blonde-reddish hair oo, and blue eyes.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2007-01-20 05:29pm

I burn easily as well. I tend to avoid the sun whenever possible. So I have nice work shirts and safari hats to keep the sun off me.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2007-01-20 05:35pm

Covenant wrote:
Superman wrote:Einy, that second chick down with the big tits looks good.

Yeah but can we get red hair without the pasty white skin tone?
We could do some genetic engineering or just very selective breeding, but they usually go hand-in-hand. The real thing is that the people who are redheads are predominantly from very limited stock. Redhead types also have an increased rate of sinus-related problems because of that similar reason.

I know it's possible for some redheads to get a tan, but the darkest I can get (even with brown hair on my head) is around 'medium rare' rather than an actual deeper tan like my brothers or Dad. Same goes for most of the redheads I know. Maybe Ein has a different experience? Darthdavid?

You certainly could spray the tan on. Less risk of skin cancer too!

Actually, I don't know any guy that cares about skin tone (not counting racist tards or something)... Usually a guy's more basic 'drives' are easily going to override his being critical of minor things like that...

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2007-01-20 06:42pm

SVPD wrote:
LadyTevar wrote: Redhair, light-colored eyes, and pale skin seem to be genetically linked somehow. Maybe it's a general lack of melonin?

As a strawberry blonde, I have a horrible time getting a tan. 10 minutes in bright sunlight (or a tanningbed) will burn me. 5 minutes if I'm not wearing the SPF 30-45. The worst part is that I burn lobster red, start peeling within a few days, and am back to patsy white within two weeks.

Again, in my Limited Experience (sends Ayleska a pointed look), this rapid burn/peel/white cycle is common to redheads.
I'm in the same boat. I burn very easily (10-15 minutes without strong sunblock). I have strawberry blonde-reddish hair oo, and blue eyes.

While not traditionally red-head, I've got the slightly brown version, I can get burned through my tshirt.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2007-01-20 06:52pm

Covenant wrote:
Superman wrote:Einy, that second chick down with the big tits looks good.

Yeah but can we get red hair without the pasty white skin tone?
We could do some genetic engineering or just very selective breeding, but they usually go hand-in-hand. The real thing is that the people who are redheads are predominantly from very limited stock. Redhead types also have an increased rate of sinus-related problems because of that similar reason.

I know it's possible for some redheads to get a tan, but the darkest I can get (even with brown hair on my head) is around 'medium rare' rather than an actual deeper tan like my brothers or Dad. Same goes for most of the redheads I know. Maybe Ein has a different experience? Darthdavid?

You certainly could spray the tan on. Less risk of skin cancer too!

I don't tan. I pink.

I do get freckles if I get consistent medium amounts of sun.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2007-01-20 06:55pm

Ghetto Edit;Addendum to above: I mean medium for me, for the general population that amounts to about nothing.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2007-01-20 09:14pm

My mother has Russian Red hair, and has the same problem - she burns very quickly if she's not careful, and never gets darker than two shades shy of 'pasty'. She also freckles something fierce.

Setesh · Post by **Setesh** » 2007-01-21 03:30pm

LadyTevar wrote:Redhair, light-colored eyes, and pale skin seem to be genetically linked somehow. Maybe it's a general lack of melonin?

As a strawberry blonde, I have a horrible time getting a tan. 10 minutes in bright sunlight (or a tanningbed) will burn me. 5 minutes if I'm not wearing the SPF 30-45. The worst part is that I burn lobster red, start peeling within a few days, and am back to patsy white within two weeks.

Again, in my Limited Experience (sends Ayleska a pointed look), this rapid burn/peel/white cycle is common to redheads.

Its not a lack of melonin but that the melonin is red, therefore less able to handle prolonged exposure to UV.

Red-heads are also not dieing out, its just that darker reds are more predominant. I was born with brilliant copper hair (which no one thought to tell me till I said something) that darkened to nearly black. Then my wife decided to try to color my hair. One application of strong hair bleach later and I had bubblegum pink hair. Repeated dye attempts and sun exposure has lightened my hair to the point the red is visible.

Spin Echo · Post by **Spin Echo** » 2007-01-21 05:24pm

Superman wrote:Einy, that second chick down with the big tits looks good.

Yeah but can we get red hair without the pasty white skin tone?

The redheads I've seen with darker skin and red hair (all courtesy of hair dye) look really weird to me, mainly because it's just not a combination you see in nature. It's like those women who tan really dark and then dye their hair platinum blonde.

Besides, I prefer to think of it as porcelain skin tone and not pasty white.

Big Orange · Post by **Big Orange** » 2007-01-24 04:46am

Why is red hair often associated with ethnic groups like Northern European Celts and Eastern European Jews? Also I've seen a handful of Somalians in Bristol who have bright red hair inspite of their dark skin and I imagine red hair could be relatively common in the Middle East as well (white blonde hair seems rarer than red hair).

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-01-24 02:45pm

Big Orange wrote:Why is red hair often associated with ethnic groups like Northern European Celts and Eastern European Jews? Also I've seen a handful of Somalians in Bristol who have bright red hair inspite of their dark skin and I imagine red hair could be relatively common in the Middle East as well (white blonde hair seems rarer than red hair).

It goes back to the fact that Redhair is recessive, so it shows up more in closed populations where there are a lot of people sharing that recessive gene.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2007-01-24 03:19pm

Fetch Doctor Watson! This appears to be the work of the... Red-headed League!

Post by **weemadando** » 2007-01-24 03:39pm

Seriously, I'll reiterate my point.

Redheads. Are. Fucking. Hawt.

Its not 100% true, but its gotta be a decent percentage.

Big Orange · Post by **Big Orange** » 2007-01-27 05:57am

LadyTevar wrote: It goes back to the fact that Redhair is recessive, so it shows up more in closed populations where there are a lot of people sharing that recessive gene.

So to put things bluntly, red hair is the result of mild inbreeding in a relatively closed population. I also noticed that Celtic people in the British Isle can look quite Mediterranean or even vaguely Berber looking.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2007-01-27 08:54am

We can't let bogus things like science and godless evolution take Alicia Witt away!

First they came and took GOD out of the schools. Then they started teaching satanic evolution. Now they've come for the redheads. This is what happens when we reject Jesus.

Mlenk · Post by **Mlenk** » 2007-01-30 02:14pm

Angelica Bridges.

Red-Headed Goddess

Oni Koneko Damien · Post by **Oni Koneko Damien** » 2007-02-07 03:49pm

Wait a minute...

...taking the logic presented by this article to its...well...logical conclusion.

*Any* gene that is recessive will become diluted and eventually disappear from the species' phenotype.

...or maybe they don't understand that 'dilution' doesn't actually mean the genes are spread thinner, but rather that there are more of them throughout a larger population, thus making it *more* likely that eventually, more heterozygous couples will produce homozygous recessive offspring.

Fucking hell, a first year biology student can see how full of holes their logic is.