Creationism and Evolutionism, My Take on It All

[Patrick Degan]

That is only true if you regard "the physical universe is real" as a "school of thought" rather than a fact. No one can stop you (philosophers love to deny the existence of the universe, perhaps out of some perverse desire to pretend they know something normal people don't), but I have never met someone who was willing to demonstrate his faith in the non-existence of physical reality by eating a bullet or throwing himself off a skyscraper.

Of course nobody would actually set out to test that theory. They'd quickly run out of researchers and assistants, and the experimental results would be uniformly depressing.

[lgot]

actually the big problem with the creationism and Darwin's theory is not the time god take to create the world (yeah, It is not correct) but simple because the Bible states god created the earth and living beings as they are. We found out that things have been changing and that the source behind this is natural selection, a process that have not the traits of any intelligent intervention. That is why Darwin giving shaking hands to God is just because God is humble and have found his better.

[Majin Gojira]

I never realized Evolution was an -ism....Confused in the head I be....

[GrandMasterTerwynn]

I noticed alot of heated debating going on in here about creationism. Well, here is my take on it all. I will start out by saying that I am a Christian. Now that that is past, here is how I see it. Is it not possible that the 6 days mentioned in Genesis is LONGER than 6 acutal days? I mean, what is a day to God? Who is to say that it wasn't a hundred billion years? I am just saying that the way it was written was possibly to put it in a way of understanding to people ~2500 years ago. It could be more of an illustration of what happened, and it might not necessarily literally mean 1 week. When looked at this way, evolution and creationism almost go hand in hand, or rather, can coexist without contradicting each other.

The Creation myth of the ancient Israelites and Sumerians bears no passing resemblance to reality, I'm afraid. Even if we took each "day" to be billions of years, it still does not work out. The events in Genesis take place in an order that does not correlate with any of what our evidence would suggest. And even if they did, each day would have to be of variable length . . . another damning argument against Genesis having any relationship to reality. And assuming that creationism and natural evolution can go together presupposes the existence of an all-knowing and all-powerful God. A being that one cannot rationally prove to exist using the framework established by the laws of physics.

The logical question that should be asked is that if there is a God, then why hasn't He/She/It intervened in the affairs of humans since the time when our understanding of the world was so poor that it was easier to ascribe things we didn't understand to mysterious beings?

[Stuart Mackey]

Actually, I have already developed a scientifically consistent interpretation of the Bible: I interpret it to be nonsense.

False: You have provided no proof to back up this claim that the bible is nonsence, especialy when every indicator suggest that it is pure horseshit.
Try again Wong.

[Majin Gojira]

The Skeptics Annotated Bible has already done the job for him. The amount of inconsistencies, scientific gaffs, etc, are enough to make one vomit (lord knows I have)!