Feil wrote:Why would the human be anywhere within fifty miles of the combat zone? All he needs is a radio tower and a remote control.
Signal strength and reaction time limitations. The farther you are away the more powerful a transmission you need to achieve accurate real-time control without interference. Sending signal from a base isn't much of a problem, but for the robot its a trade-off of a strong transmission for control vs. making yourself easy to spot, electronically speaking. In theory you could be 50+ miles away. But realistically its more like 1-5 miles and still having enough control over the robot to make it effective.
Most of the current remote controlled robot soldier prototypes are designed around placing them with a platoon, based out of an IFV with the controller inside. This allows the robot to be within easy reach of the controller signal without making the power curve absurd.
However it seems that this may also be asking about fighting the autonomous robot soldiers in development. These have no human operator, the current ones are not currently sophisticated enough to use against infantry. They are being developed as anti-vehicle units. Given the visual profile of enemy vehicles (from all three dimensions) and airdropped into the countryside armed with anti-armor weapons, they will ide until a target is spotted and then destroy it. When not engaged they are programmed to hide and watch.
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Some musings: Armour piercing bullets with sniper rifles, large calibre revolvers (I love those) that also can pierce armour, and pretty much everything that can pierce armour.
Also, set traps: these robots are supposedly stupid as dogs, so setting traps like ditches or wire tricks that flip them over may be handy to hit soft spots.
And paintball guns. No, seriously, paintball guns to blind the robot's sensors and then make them easy targets.
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The obvious solution here is a large caliber semiautomatic weapon that fires explosive rounds. To avoid excessive recoil while maintaining high impact velocities, we'd need to make the weapon use gyrojet rounds after a relatively small initial charge to give it its initial muzzle velocity. 'Course, seeing as these are soulless metal abominations it might be good to have a chaplain bless each round before battle. You know. Just to be safe.
Zixinus wrote:Some musings: Armour piercing bullets with sniper rifles, large calibre revolvers (I love those) that also can pierce armour, and pretty much everything that can pierce armour.
I doubt any practical revolver could penetrate armour better than an ordinary assault rifle, and these robots are impervious to rifle fire.
Actually, now that I reread the OP, the armour doesn't seem all that tough. I interpret it to mean that they're only proof against 5.56mm AP at best, suggesting that 7.62mm AP battle rifles and machine guns should be able to kill them. If so, then defeating these robots should be trivial.
And paintball guns. No, seriously, paintball guns to blind the robot's sensors and then make them easy targets.
Sure, maybe if this was an anime. Imagine a person with a paintball gun, 50m away from a dog-bot with a GPMG on its back. Do you really think they could hit all its sensors before it simply shoots them?
Sure, maybe if this was an anime. Imagine a person with a paintball gun, 50m away from a dog-bot with a GPMG on its back. Do you really think they could hit all its sensors before it simply shoots them?
What about paint-balloons?
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Sure, maybe if this was an anime. Imagine a person with a paintball gun, 50m away from a dog-bot with a GPMG on its back. Do you really think they could hit all its sensors before it simply shoots them?
What about paint-balloons?
I propose genetically engineering a supersoldier who carries bandoliers of paint balloons. Any time the ordinary guys get surrounded and are ordered to surrender in Microsoft Sam voices, he simply leaps out of the shadows and begins a ballet of acrobatic balloon flinging amidst a cacophony of poorly pronounced imperatives. In moments, all the robots are left lying, sparking, in warm pools of their own hydraulic fluid. With a sardonic grin, Colonel Mack 'The Rack' Dodgson licks some of the bitter, oily stuff off the chainsaw which has surgically replaced his left hand. One of the cowering soldiers turns to thank him, but in the briefest snap-swish he has already melted back into the icy shadows.
Winston Blake wrote:I propose genetically engineering a supersoldier who carries bandoliers of paint balloons.
Having played paintball and been hit in the mask (and with paint grenades) a fair bit, I can't say there's any particular reason why this is more likely to work on a robot than a human. For a human, if you've got eye protection you have to take a few seconds to wipe that crap off, if you don't have eye protection you're blinded for minutes and may even have permenant eye damage (if a paintball hits you in the eye). For a robot, there are undoubtadly little wipers on the sensor windows (for dealing with stormy weather), which are possibly multiply redundant and definitely behind armoured glass. You could use some sort of fast-setting adhesive crap, but again there's no obvious reason why this would work better on a robot than it would on a human, and militaries don't seem to be in any rush to start using this sort of weapon on enemy infantry.
Starglider wrote:Having played paintball and been hit in the mask (and with paint grenades) a fair bit, I can't say there's any particular reason why this is more likely to work on a robot than a human. For a human, if you've got eye protection you have to take a few seconds to wipe that crap off, if you don't have eye protection you're blinded for minutes and may even have permenant eye damage (if a paintball hits you in the eye). For a robot, there are undoubtadly little wipers on the sensor windows (for dealing with stormy weather), which are possibly multiply redundant and definitely behind armoured glass. You could use some sort of fast-setting adhesive crap, but again there's no obvious reason why this would work better on a robot than it would on a human, and militaries don't seem to be in any rush to start using this sort of weapon on enemy infantry.
I'm disappointed that you failed to refute the plausibility of Mack Dodgson's left hand being a chainsaw.
In case you didn't notice, I'm against the idea of paint vs robots.
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Zixinus wrote:I didn't think that robots would be equipped with fucking window wipers.
You expect them to be totally fucked the first time it rains?
That's what infrared is for. Wipers aren't needed. A defogging system for the optics, maybe.
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Actually near-IR is fucked up pretty well by rain, and just about all sensors are screwed by dust, the sort of coating you pick up within hours in a dusty enviroment (minutes, in a storm or somewhere where a lot of vehicles are moving around). Regardless, visual-spectrum sensors pick up a lot of important info IR doesn't.
Wipers aren't needed.
Not only are they necessary, they are trivial to add. This country is covered in CCTV cameras and most of the expensive outdoor ones (i.e. the ones covering motorway junctions) have little wipers on them. It's a standard component, along with pan/tilt mountings, zoom lenses and coaxial near-IR illuminators.
Anti-material sniper rifles would probably be a good idea, as well as AP round loads on MGs.. though given the armor you've given them I can't see a way they can engage them for any real length of time since it sounds like heavy weapons are needed.
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