Loving People

[Ghost Rider]

Translation: I think I know everything.

Thank you for saying so. Good to know the ignorant still continue to blither in this fashion .

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

Christian belief has to meet certain criteria about what they think Jesus is. And obedience. My point is that Christianity is not just belief in Jesus.

Even if only a few Christians exist in the world, that is enough reason for the entire faith to have relevance.

[TithonusSyndrome]

You ARE aware, you pedantic twat, that the term "belief in Jesus" is commonly understood to mean belief in the divinity of and means of salvation from supernatural torment by Jesus, not simply his existence, correct?

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

You ARE aware, you pedantic twat, that the term "belief in Jesus" is commonly understood to mean belief in the divinity of and means of salvation from supernatural torment by Jesus, not simply his existence, correct?

Once again, you do not understand the context in which I say "belief." Obedience is key to real Christianity as well as merely intellectual and even emotional understanding. You can believe Jesus is God and reject him.

[Lagmonster]

Christian belief has to meet certain criteria about what they think Jesus is. And obedience. My point is that Christianity is not just belief in Jesus.

Christians are people who acknowledge Jesus was divine. Even Satanists qualify as Christians on a certain level.

To answer your original post a ways back, from the perspective of someone who does not believe in the supernatural, Christianity is simply an idea somebody imagined once which exists solely to propagate itself into as many minds as possible via whatever reproductive means are available to it. A mental virus, if you will.

Even if only a few Christians exist in the world, that is enough reason for the entire faith to have relevance.

Lest one say that as long as people believe Elvis isn't dead, that is reason enough to have faith in his continued survival.

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

Once again you don't get it. If you get Jesus'es get out jail free card and give up on life, salvation was never attained.

[General Zod]

You ARE aware, you pedantic twat, that the term "belief in Jesus" is commonly understood to mean belief in the divinity of and means of salvation from supernatural torment by Jesus, not simply his existence, correct?

Once again, you do not understand the context in which I say "belief." Obedience is key to real Christianity as well as merely intellectual and even emotional understanding. You can believe Jesus is God and reject him.

Bullshit. It's impossible to completely obey everything the Bible commands you to do in the real world without getting arrested for a sizable amount of God's orders. Unless you're willing to flagrantly violate the law in ways that can get you the death penalty for the sake of being obedient, you HAVE to choose to ignore some of them. Thus, anything but "belief in Jesus" is a purely worthless definition.

[Shroom Man 777]

SisterMiriam, you're not a true Christian.

Because I say so.

And I am the Goddamn Shroom Man.

This is the war.

My war.

On whores.

I am the Goddamn Shroom Man.

The Last Sane Man on Earth.


WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES

BLEEDING BREASTS BLOOD FROM THEIR MILKBAGS! CUNTS FOR EYES!

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

It's impossible to completely obey everything the Bible commands you to do in the real world without getting arrested for a sizable amount of God's orders.

How interesting you're pointing out the things God is telling people that no longer exist to do for a modern Christian lifestyle.

[Fleet Admiral JD]

Do you not understand that Belief=/=obedience? Belief is something completely seperate.

And Jesus was not God--by very definition, God is not corporeal.

[General Zod]

It's impossible to completely obey everything the Bible commands you to do in the real world without getting arrested for a sizable amount of God's orders.

How interesting you're pointing out the things God is telling people that no longer exist to do for a modern Christian lifestyle.

Except for the part where Jesus said that the Old Testament was still in full effect.

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

Actually, putting the blood of Jesus on yourself and admitting that you have sinned... Is the same as obeying... A sign that you are actually genuine is obedience to God. Which is what I've been saying.

Edit- Sorry sir, the OT never existed. It is known as the Covenant, and it is still in effect. However when you become Christian, then the OT is obselete.

[Fleet Admiral JD]

Actually, putting the blood of Jesus on yourself and admitting that you have sinned... Is the same as obeying... A sign that you are actually genuine is obedience to God. Which is what I've been saying.

Edit- Sorry sir, the OT never existed. It is known as the Covenant, and it is still in effect. However when you become Christian, then the OT is obselete.

Ah, so you can use part of the Bible but not the rest of it. Brilliant argument. "I can have it both ways, because I want to!"

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

That doesn't make any sense. You didn't seem to read my post.

[Fleet Admiral JD]

That doesn't make any sense. You didn't seem to read my post.

Sorry sir, the OT never existed. It is known as the Covenant, and it is still in effect. However when you become Christian, then the OT is obselete.

You claim that >1/2 of the holy text of Christianity is "obselete [sic]" when you become "Christian."

How can you claim that you're a Christian when you essentially ignore a greater part of the text?

[General Zod]

Actually, putting the blood of Jesus on yourself and admitting that you have sinned... Is the same as obeying... A sign that you are actually genuine is obedience to God. Which is what I've been saying.

Edit- Sorry sir, the OT never existed. It is known as the Covenant, and it is still in effect. However when you become Christian, then the OT is obselete.

So the Ten Commandments are obsolete?

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

The Covenant with Israel and the Jews is not the entire Christian scripture. Sorry.

Edit-
The Ten Commandments are what people need to see that they have sinned so they turn to Jesus and accept him anyway.

[Shroom Man 777]

Since when the fuck did the Old Testament become obsolete - which fucker said so? I'LL GUT HIM LIKE A FISH! Those pussy breast-bleeding WHORES who couldn't go with manly stonings and polygamy?! Though heaven and earth may pass away, but his word will always stand! GODDAMN GOD!


Paul thinks all women are whores. Paul is infallable.

[Fleet Admiral JD]

The Covenant with Israel and the Jews is not the entire Christian scripture. Sorry.

Edit-
The Ten Commandments are what people need to see that they have sinned so they turn to Jesus and accept him anyway.

Don't misquote my argument. I said you're ignoring a greater part of the text, not all of it. All of the metaphors and stories in the old testament, and even the story of creation?

What sect of Christianity are you from?

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

I'm a Lord's Believer.

[Fleet Admiral JD]

I'm a Lord's Believer.

Well, at least you have a pattern. You ignore >1/2 of the bible, and >1/2 of my post. Keep it up.

[Losonti Tokash]

this is one of the most blatant trolls i've ever seen

seriously what the hell is wrong with you guys

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

Not very light hearted, I see.

Listen,..... A Jew is not "Under the Law'. He has a Covenant with God. Christians have their own. The Bible is true, but we don't have a Jewish Covenant.

[General Zod]

The Covenant with Israel and the Jews is not the entire Christian scripture. Sorry.

Edit-
The Ten Commandments are what people need to see that they have sinned so they turn to Jesus and accept him anyway.

You don't get to pick and choose. Either the old testament is obsolete, and so are the ten commandments, or they're perfectly valid. Which is it?

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

You don't get to pick and choose. Either the old testament is obsolete, and so are the ten commandments, or they're perfectly valid. Which is it?

The Covenant is still valid, for a Jew. Christianity is valid for Christians. And Messianic Jews.