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Re: NASA Moon Plan No Go

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Alyeska wrote:
dragon wrote:Hum so looks like the Chinese manned moon expedition will beat us there this time. Plus the ESA moon mission and the Japanese Moon mission. So we get to fall further behind.
I get tired of people saying that "China will beat the US to the Moon". Come on people, we've already been there. Getting back to the moon before China? Did that too. Apollo 12. Game over, geeze. We have other things to do.
Dude I was trying to be a smart ass. I failed I know. Honesty I feel the same about people saying that the Chinese will be us there. THen when I point out we beat them by over 40 years, they go "why then is it so hard to go back."

Hum maybe since Bush broke the US economy with the stupid war perhaps NASA should go into the advertisement business and place sign on the shuttle that can be rented. And yes I being sarcastic.
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I hate smartasses who say "If we really did land on the Moon, how come we can't get back?"

Because recreating massive launch vehicles built for the specific purpose of getting a man to the Moon is real easy, like. After all, in Starcraft when you research battlecruisers, you can always build them in the future, right?

Goddamned wankers. What's worse, apparently, plenty of Americans think this is a serious argument.
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PeZook wrote:I hate smartasses who say "If we really did land on the Moon, how come we can't get back?"

Because recreating massive launch vehicles built for the specific purpose of getting a man to the Moon is real easy, like. After all, in Starcraft when you research battlecruisers, you can always build them in the future, right?

Goddamned wankers. What's worse, apparently, plenty of Americans think this is a serious argument.
Apparently you didn't read the post that said NASA had NO plans to make heavy launch vehicles as their is NO need. Once again this time read it.
One of the benefits
of this strategy was that it avoided the need to develop
an extremely large and expensive rocket capable of launching
a mission to the moon.
The LEO rendezvous strategy instead allows NASA to
develop two smaller rockets using heritage Space Shuttle
hardware. One of these rockets will be a Cargo Launch Vehicle
(CaLV) that will carry an Earth Departure Stage (EDS)
and a Lunar Surface Access Module (LSAM). The other
rocket will be a Human Rated Launch Vehicl
The link is the post on the first page, jeesh.
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Except the Ares V would have had a larger payload (almost 150%, in fact) than the old Saturn V, and it would've been, in fact, slightly larger. Constellation's expanded mission profile necessitated this, anyway.

Here's a neat PDF with technical data for the Ares V

What an earth-orbit rendezvous approach would allow NASA to avoid is the making of an even larger rocket which could accomodate a complete stack for a lunar-orbit rendezvous approach (AKA "Apollo style").

Either way, I was commenting on retards who couldn't grasp that when a technological tool isn't used for almost fifty years, it's just plain not easy to recreate it, just like it wouldn't be easy to build a three-decked sailing ship of the line in a modern shipyard, even though modern ships are much more technologically advanced.
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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
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Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
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PeZook wrote:Except the Ares V would have had a larger payload (almost 150%, in fact) than the old Saturn V, and it would've been, in fact, slightly larger. Constellation's expanded mission profile necessitated this, anyway.

Here's a neat PDF with technical data for the Ares V

What an earth-orbit rendezvous approach would allow NASA to avoid is the making of an even larger rocket which could accomodate a complete stack for a lunar-orbit rendezvous approach (AKA "Apollo style").

Either way, I was commenting on retards who couldn't grasp that when a technological tool isn't used for almost fifty years, it's just plain not easy to recreate it, just like it wouldn't be easy to build a three-decked sailing ship of the line in a modern shipyard, even though modern ships are much more technologically advanced.
Yeah understand what you mean but in a bad mood as I'm sick and I tend to be an ass when I'm sick, sorry.
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