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Cyril wrote:For the supposedly enlightened, they have yet to learn English....odd
Interesting thing is they can God gave them whatever the fuck they want, utter bullshit....begin Nazi Sterilaztion Methods too cull the highly ignorant, retarded, and dumbass Fundamentalists.
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I don't know about gp4teens.com. They're nothing but confused kiddies, guppies if you will. I want to go out and catch the big fishes. There has got to be some fundie board out there that we haven't found yet. One that has not yet seen the light of logic, and is unprepared for our onslaught.
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The big fish are good, I want too hve some target practice first.
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Captain Lennox wrote:I Lennox volunteer for the scouting mission, my former Catholic background can be a shield of lies....and Alyrium I shall assist in your Teen board attack..
Note the word catholic, no offense but obviously you have not had much experience at fundie boards. Catholics are demonized, saying "i'm a catholic" will get you labeled like an Azeron. I once started a thread on "what is wrong with the Catholic Doctrine" it got over 500 responses, and turned into a flame fest, half the catholics got banned. On a side note one of the more flamming people also got banned, and she was A baptist, only time to my knowledge that that mod banned someone of like faith.
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Straha wrote:
Captain Lennox wrote:I Lennox volunteer for the scouting mission, my former Catholic background can be a shield of lies....and Alyrium I shall assist in your Teen board attack..
Note the word catholic, no offense but obviously you have not had much experience at fundie boards. Catholics are demonized, saying "i'm a catholic" will get you labeled like an Azeron. I once started a thread on "what is wrong with the Catholic Doctrine" it got over 500 responses, and turned into a flame fest, half the catholics got banned. On a side note one of the more flamming people also got banned, and she was A baptist, only time to my knowledge that that mod banned someone of like faith.
Ah, yes I know, it would be a good fight too put them on, keeping them off balanced while you initalized the attack, a preemptive strike per se. But I come from the South so thats a cover.
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The teen site is a good place to start out or practice on before entering the big leagues.
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And I will continue to post there in addition to participating in any future invasions of other boards
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Big Leauges, :roll: ,

Now I have two problems with the teen board:

A. Time, I prefer it when we aren't all posting the same thing at once and have to wait 24+ hours to learn that we did

B. Opponets, walking into Gp4 and winning is like America conquering The Vatican City, or Sealand, and calling it a great victory for Unification of the earth. The people at Gp4 don't know ther but from a hole in the ground, the people at the Delphi Forums, and others, can debate and the people who can't tell their but from a hole in the ground are there as an interesting side note for laughter where everyone, YES EVERYONE, beats up on them for the hell of it.
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I'll be posting as someone with the initials WMA, like Wilbur mathers Anderson, or Wenonah Mary Atkins etc.

We first need to prepare a full arsenal of responses and a special plan in case they attempt a counter-attack.
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Ok, that was a cliche. But the Delphi forums aren't all that great because aren't the moderators pretty fundie and would ban those who don't conform? Anyways I'll probably try that site too. Oh yeah, the 24 hour is the upper limit, it turns out to be more like a couple of hours. But yeah, it still sucks though that it's not as fast as this forum.
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I was ithking that if you are going to post at one of those fundie forums, you start out liek the rest, and then slowly debunk their illogic. And, do it slowly, so you don't look like a troll. If you get banned, repeat this, except with someone else at a different computer. Or, you could just PM or E-mail individual members.

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Wicked Pilot wrote:How about this plan of action:

1) We sent out scouts to lurk around creationist boards. They send back their finds.

-Good.

2) We pick our target. Ideally, this board should should be full of creationist, low on rational minds, and absend of strict moderators.

-Strict moderators can work for us as we proclaim that they are a facist state persecuting us like the Romans persectuted the Christians.

3) We elect a leader of the invasion force.

-Only for the first invasion. After that the most successful of the previous invasion shall lead. Or we need to establish a strong paramilitary structure.

4) He waits for the perfect thread to hop in on. When it comes along, he fires the first shot. When the creationist respond, he calls in the artillery (that would be us).

-Nice. We need to prepare an "Eclipse Thread" type MAD weapon should it turn bad though.

5) We take no prisioners. We fight until all the idioticy has been driven from the forum.

-"Some of you willl die. Some of you will live. Some will be forced through a fine wire mesh... They will be the luckiest of all."

6) Go back to step one, find another target.

-Yay!

Misc notes:
1) Our usernames on the target board should be similiar enough to our names here so as we know who's saying what.

-I've already posted mine

2) Under no circumstances are any of us to mention or link to SD.net. We cannot go on the offensive if our own boards are being invaded.

-Yeah, point to SB.com

What do you all think?
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Against heavily moderated fundamentalist boards I propose a different approach: (logical) spam war.

This would require planning, maybe pre-written essays, and following a leader. The general outline:

1) Select a fundamentalist board
2) Register, but DON'T POST YET

3) Tell the invasion leader that you are ready to strike

4) the invasion leader chooses the invasion date

5) Everyone think up of essays or topics that they will write on the invasion date

6) SPAM the hell out of the fundamentalists on invasion date, hopefully frying their servers

As you can see, this would require a lot of organization from this internet community. For each site invasion, I suggest a separat post on this board to organize and choose the leader. Since fundie moderators will probably block our accounts over there after the invasion, these attacks are one-shot deals.
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Oh. I like the full-frontal assault of logic concept. D-Day internet style.
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Yeah, good idea, but what is the ultimate goal? Do you think that that much effort could not be used on less moderated forums to a better end. I agree that it is a good idea on heavily moderated forums, but only if it does not take too much effort. A way to lessen it is the pre-written essay, like you said, but perhaps ones that follow a framework, making them easier to create and less time-intensive.
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Hmm the goal?

Complete and utter logicilsation of the forums


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Mr Bean wrote:Bonus points for all people you are able to make renouce thier religion (50 Each person and if you get a thousand in one month you win a cookie!)
That's what I want: UnConversion Points with every debate. Think Air Miles.

"I traded in 1500 UnConversion Points and Bean gave me a sponge bath!"
"Bean gave me access to his harem when I collected 4000 UnConversion Points!"
"I disbanded Jerry Falwell's empire for 16,000 UnConversion Points and Bean gave me a black market nuclear warhead!"
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Lagmonster wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:Bonus points for all people you are able to make renouce thier religion (50 Each person and if you get a thousand in one month you win a cookie!)
That's what I want: UnConversion Points with every debate. Think Air Miles.

"I traded in 1500 UnConversion Points and Bean gave me a sponge bath!"
"Bean gave me access to his harem when I collected 4000 UnConversion Points!"
"I disbanded Jerry Falwell's empire for 16,000 UnConversion Points and Bean gave me a black market nuclear warhead!"
The potential is great. But I feel that Bean would be unwilling to share.
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*rids the world of chritianity for 5e10 uncoversion points. And bean gives me a proportionally large number of black market nukes.

But wait, if they denounce thier faith, wont they become fundie atheists?
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:But wait, if they denounce thier faith, wont they become fundie atheists?
No, they'll realize that everything they know and believe in is false, and will be dazed and confused and in need of guidance (since they can't think for themselves), and thus the perfect sheep to re-mold in your image.
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Mr Bean wrote:Bonus points for all people you are able to make renouce thier religion
Out of interest, does anyone know of any Fundies who have actually been converted to Aetheism (or at least to a more moderate religious viewpoint) through rational arguments? I seem to remember reading about one guy on these boards who stopped being a Fundie after reading SD.net, but this is the only success story I've heard.
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Lagmonster wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:But wait, if they denounce thier faith, wont they become fundie atheists?
No, they'll realize that everything they know and believe in is false, and will be dazed and confused and in need of guidance (since they can't think for themselves), and thus the perfect sheep to re-mold in your image.
and then we can induce them into strange cult's involving worship of SD.Net denizens? I like this plan, who should be the 'leader?'
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The plan I proposed was intended only for heavily moderated fundamentalist boards. After all, they refuse to debate or listen to logic, much less change. Therefore, our focus should change from de-conversion to assault and battery(of their brains, that is). Yes, it will take planning. Yes, it will take some work. But frying their damned servers out of the internet would be a service to humanity.
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NecronLord wrote:...and then we can induce them into strange cult's involving worship of SD.Net denizens? I like this plan, who should be the 'leader?'
No, no no. Think about this:

You have a large group of humans who prefer not to think for themselves, who will in fact sometimes kill themselves or approve of killing if it supports their faith's tenets.

What you DO with them is convince them that a large, invisible and all-powerful entity wants them to throw themselves in front of bullets that are meant for you.

One thing fundie brains are universally good for is blocking assassin's bullets.
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Post by Newtonian Fury »

If we do want a spam invasion, let's talk about tactics. Here are some common strategic mistakes:

1) Deep But Narrow

In this scenario, the invaders focus their posts in only one or two thread. The thread is usually bloated and catches attention. The weakness: too tight a formation. The moderators can just easily delete one or two threads.

2) Broad But Shallow

In this scenario, the invaders post a lot of new threads as well as posting in many existing threads. This would annoy a lot of people as well as making a wide variety of targets. However, since people are usually not as focused, they don't make enough of dent for the individual points.

Because our desirable goal is Broad And Deep, I suggest pre-writing our essays(or just copy & paste existing ones). This way, we can create several new threads, inflate them, and attack the pre-existing threads. By heavily contaminating the existing "We LOVE God" stupidity, we're gonna give the moderators a lot of headache.

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