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I'd say "Interesting idea, but...no thanks, we'll just struggle by on our own, 'kay? How about maybe some interstellar trade, though?"
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I go for everything else, but try to negotiate down the interracial stuff -- since they've admitted we're going to get there eventually, we can tell them we don't need their help to get there. And interstellar trade is good, too, Molyneux: I like that idea!
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His Divine Shadow wrote:We say "sure, come on down then, mates" then we brutally kill them, steal their technology and begin making a massive spacefleet, then we find them and invade their home worlds.
Yeah! That's the human spirit!
What if the aliens were so pleased that we'd overcome our ideas of race so quickly that they decided that the loss of 5 million of their citizens was well worth it? We could arrive there with our spaceships and stuff, and they'd take one look at us and see that all the different races were equally represented and they'll say, "Ah, we see you've learnt much, our children. Come. Stop this silly war now and we'll give you more lollies."
This isn't really eliminating racism. It's more like banding together against a percieved common threat.
I've always thought contact with an alien race will speed up progress toward a peaceful, harmonious humanity by a thousand years, because the Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Christian fundies etc. will all be too buisy fighting the aliens to remember how much they hate each other. It's not eliminating tribalism, it's just expanding the size of the tribes.
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Junghalli wrote:
Lusankya wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:We say "sure, come on down then, mates" then we brutally kill them, steal their technology and begin making a massive spacefleet, then we find them and invade their home worlds.
Yeah! That's the human spirit!
What if the aliens were so pleased that we'd overcome our ideas of race so quickly that they decided that the loss of 5 million of their citizens was well worth it? We could arrive there with our spaceships and stuff, and they'd take one look at us and see that all the different races were equally represented and they'll say, "Ah, we see you've learnt much, our children. Come. Stop this silly war now and we'll give you more lollies."
This isn't really eliminating racism. It's more like banding together against a percieved common threat.
I've always thought contact with an alien race will speed up progress toward a peaceful, harmonious humanity by a thousand years, because the Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Christian fundies etc. will all be too buisy fighting the aliens to remember how much they hate each other. It's not eliminating tribalism, it's just expanding the size of the tribes.
Hey, that's how you *do* eliminate racism - get to the point where EVERYONE is "us", and there is no "them".
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There will always be an "us" and a ""them"
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If we eliminate race, we'll just find some new reason to hate each other. It's the way things go.
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The Guid wrote:I'd want to say no. Call me primitive but I love my girlfriend and the fact that we come from the same "race" doesn't bother me to the extent where I might even marry her.

Could be amusing to watch Bible bashers oppose it though because we shouldn't mix it all up according to Fundie Chapter 4 or something like that.
Only the most inbred southern rednecks think that. No, where you'd get the most opposition is mainland asia and Japan, where if you marry outside your race you can expect to get shunned or worse.
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Molyneux wrote:
Hey, that's how you *do* eliminate racism - get to the point where EVERYONE is "us", and there is no "them".
No, there's still a 'them', it's just that it's different from everyone so we can all be 'us' and hate it together.
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speaker-to-trolls wrote:
Molyneux wrote:
Hey, that's how you *do* eliminate racism - get to the point where EVERYONE is "us", and there is no "them".
No, there's still a 'them', it's just that it's different from everyone so we can all be 'us' and hate it together.
Well, yeah, but if the "them" doesn't exist, then there isn't anyone to actually be hated. We'll just be hatin' a hypothetical construct.
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