I was referring to the Republican leadership, not "all Republicans"; my own father was a Republican, and he did support stem cell research. And yes, I'm a pessimist. I'd rather be right than happy and wrong.Lord Zentei wrote:Or perhaps you are a wild-eyed pessimist. Your casting of "these people" meaning all Republicans as evil incarnate strikes me as being a tad simplistic. In any case you haven't shown that these compromise attempts would inevitably lead to disaster, while given the current situation, a fundie acceptance of embryonic stem cell use is unthinkable, so treading the same road we're on now will lead nowhere.
Compromise with these people has already been tried, repeatedly, on many issues, and it never works. Given the history, I think you should explain why this time will be different, and not yet another cave in to the fundies.Zero132132 wrote:Abyss, if this compromise would further stem-cell research so that it could actually be done here in the US, I see that as a good thing. You don't because of your apparent extreme hatred for religion, even though it's been shown that the upsides (actually being able to do the research) beat out the downside/other upside (religious people are happy). What's going to be lost here?
If a compromise is made, here is my prediction : it's used as ammo in the war against abortian, and the right finds a different excuse to stop the research. No gain, all loss. That's what happens when you compromise with these people.