A letter to the editor

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DPDarkPrimus wrote:Also, below my letter was some dumbass who said "If evolution is true, we might as well all act like animals. Why even bother passing laws against child molestation?"

Yes, that's what he said.
:wtf: I never really get that leap of logic, myself. If I'm not mistaken, most Christians believe in the existence of some sort of natural law that is inherent to humanity. So, why the leap from "we're descended from animals and are animals" to "let's not have any laws at all and do whatever we feel like!"?

I suppose that logic never was a strength for them, though. :?
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I'd write another letter, this time simply a scathing retort about how MY morality is not so poor that I need to fear eternal punishment to treat my fellow human beings with dignity, but that wouldn't get published, I don't think.
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DPDarkPrimus wrote:I'd write another letter, this time simply a scathing retort about how MY morality is not so poor that I need to fear eternal punishment to treat my fellow human beings with dignity, but that wouldn't get published, I don't think.
Hey, you never know until you try! :wink:
Personally, I'd go for it.

What newspaper was this?
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DPDarkPrimus wrote:Welll, after a long turnabout, they've published my letter. Well, most of it. As I'd feared, they truncated my scathingly-accurate comparison to Holocaust deniers.
Those commie bastards. I should write a letter complaining about the strict censorship newspapers apply to submitted letters. Screw their notions of appropriate content; I want to read what the writers wrote.
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I never really get that leap of logic, myself. If I'm not mistaken, most Christians believe in the existence of some sort of natural law that is inherent to humanity. So, why the leap from "we're descended from animals and are animals" to "let's not have any laws at all and do whatever we feel like!"?
Because people that want to believe in God and the automatic conclusion that such a being's existence would mean, (meaning to life/promise of eternity), are threatened by anything that challenges their belief.

It's basically an appeal to consequences fallacy. They are suggesting that if science was really evidence that God is an unnecessary and improbable factor in life, that this would mean life is too horrible to consider as being worthy of caring about because it would (in their mind) imply that there are no such thing as morals. Of course they are under the delusion that morality has to flow from divine authority instead of human evaluation. It's actually a very severe disservice to our ability to judge ethics based on sensible understanding and communication between people.
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Davis 51 wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:I'd write another letter, this time simply a scathing retort about how MY morality is not so poor that I need to fear eternal punishment to treat my fellow human beings with dignity, but that wouldn't get published, I don't think.
Hey, you never know until you try! :wink:
Personally, I'd go for it.

What newspaper was this?
The local one, obviously.

Letters always crop up when Kansas or some other hick place tries to get ID implemented - then the fundies crawl out of the woodwork and go to a PTA meeting.
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