Hahah, JWs just knocked

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2006-04-13 11:11am

Not to question Nit's decision... well, okay, I am. But wouldn't this be better in SLAM now given the nature of the debate?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2006-04-13 11:12am

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Not to question Nit's decision... well, okay, I am. But wouldn't this be better in SLAM now given the nature of the debate?

How dare you.. Well, yea, you may be right. I was asked to move to OT, but after review, it is SLAM. Once more, with feeling!

Metrion Cascade · Post by **Metrion Cascade** » 2006-04-13 11:41am

How do non-profits work in the UK? Are the JWs considered one?

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2006-04-13 01:22pm

Enigma wrote:Surlethe, read the sentence afterwards where it said,
"Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ"
Does that sound that we endorsed 1975? No. It was just a possibility not a definite fact. It was not the WB&TS that came up with the date. They only said it could be a possibility. The questions were raised by a few JWs if that date meant the arrival of Armaggedon.

EDIT: The Kingdom of God existed before but Christ began reigning as king on 1914.

Wow, you really are a sophistic little shit, aren't you? Or perhaps you are just an illiterate little moron:

...we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914

This refers to the Earth, not heavan as the context makes quite clear. Now, either concede that your "predictions" are bullshit or fuck off.

And as for the 1975 date, they had been insinuating that the end of the 6000 years would mark the begining of Christ's rule on Earth, so their insinuations were quite clear. Moreover, as Rye points out, there is the little matter of archaeology and suchlike.

AND you have NOT commented on the other dates yet. 1914 and 1975 were not the only dates mentioned by the Watchtower society.

drachefly · Post by **drachefly** » 2006-04-13 04:05pm

Enigma wrote:Surlethe, read the sentence afterwards where it said,

Lord Zentei != Surlethe

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2006-04-13 05:29pm

Enigma wrote:Surlethe, read the sentence afterwards where it said,
"Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ"
Does that sound that we endorsed 1975? No. It was just a possibility not a definite fact. It was not the WB&TS that came up with the date. They only said it could be a possibility. The questions were raised by a few JWs if that date meant the arrival of Armaggedon.

EDIT: The Kingdom of God existed before but Christ began reigning as king on 1914.

EDIT: I meant Lord Zentei not Surlethe.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2006-04-13 06:15pm

Lord Zentei wrote:
Enigma wrote:After 1914 we never set any specific date other than time is short.
O RLY?

From an older thread:

The Dark wrote:Quotes from various members of the Watchtower Society:

Charles Taze Russell, 1889 wrote:snip

He referred to the *kingdoms* of the world and not the world itself. It was also said that God's Kingdom was established on that year with Christ as king.

[quote="The Time Is At Hand, 1915""The Finished Mystery, 1917""J. E. Rutherford, 1918""J. E. Rutherford, 1922"]snip[/quote]
Can't comment about the above quotes since I cannot find those books nor any references to that quote in any of the literature that I have.[/quote]

The Watchtower, August 15, 1968 wrote:Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ....Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth.

I have already replied about that article.
As for the quotes, for now I will concede until I can find the related literature.

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2006-04-13 07:39pm

Enigma wrote:He referred to the *kingdoms* of the world and not the world itself. It was also said that God's Kingdom was established on that year with Christ as king.

Unfortunately, the "kingdoms of the world" were NOT overthrown.

And the "full establishment" of God's kingdom was to have been in the context of that prediction, as you well know.

Enigma wrote:I have already replied about that article.
As for the quotes, for now I will concede until I can find the related literature.

You have already dodged about that article, you mean. But I accept your concession.

Cao Cao · Post by **Cao Cao** » 2006-04-13 09:58pm

I once told a couple of JW's that I was well aware the end of the world is coming soon, thanked them for trying to save me but declined as my spaceship was prepped and ready to leave this planet on the eve of the rapture.

They haven't been back since..

LaCroix · Post by **LaCroix** » 2006-04-14 04:58am

Oh, yeah JW.

I am famous in my street for my handling of them. the JW still visit our street, but the pass our house only on the opposite sidewalk.

It started when they knocked in the morning (I just returned from a good mosh pit of doom, and I slept im my clothes. Anybody who wakes me up before 10 am, or in such cases, 10 PM is signed up for severe punishment.)

JW: Good Morning, which is your confession? (voice like pesky birds singing in trees)
I: roman-catholic and suspicious. (ultra dark, I screamed the whole night - voice)
JW:(confused) Do you believe in God?
I: No I sacrifice to lord belzebub himself.

Imagine the reaction if a longhaired, pale guy with "LOTR" around his eyes, a stained black robe, etc. tells you that with a straigth face...

The rest was just stuttering and retreat. they never knocked again.

I sometimes considered to make a counter-propanda magazine - "Siegetower" or something like that. Positioning right next to them in the underground staitions, and unlike them, taking to the poeple, telling them how utterly retarded the JW are. I bet I'd sell more mags than them.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2006-04-20 07:02pm

LaCroix wrote:Oh, yeah JW.

I am famous in my street for my handling of them. the JW still visit our street, but the pass our house only on the opposite sidewalk.

It started when they knocked in the morning (I just returned from a good mosh pit of doom, and I slept im my clothes. Anybody who wakes me up before 10 am, or in such cases, 10 PM is signed up for severe punishment.)

JW: Good Morning, which is your confession? (voice like pesky birds singing in trees)
I: roman-catholic and suspicious. (ultra dark, I screamed the whole night - voice)
JW:(confused) Do you believe in God?
I: No I sacrifice to lord belzebub himself.

Imagine the reaction if a longhaired, pale guy with "LOTR" around his eyes, a stained black robe, etc. tells you that with a straigth face...

The rest was just stuttering and retreat. they never knocked again.

I sometimes considered to make a counter-propanda magazine - "Siegetower" or something like that. Positioning right next to them in the underground staitions, and unlike them, taking to the poeple, telling them how utterly retarded the JW are. I bet I'd sell more mags than them.

You have accomplished with two sentences what it took my mother about 80-ish decibels of volume and some very choice epiethets to do; my hat is off to you, sir.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-04-20 07:07pm

LaCroix wrote:I sometimes considered to make a counter-propanda magazine - "Siegetower" or something like that. Positioning right next to them in the underground staitions, and unlike them, taking to the poeple, telling them how utterly retarded the JW are. I bet I'd sell more mags than them.

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