Wow. A real, live self-parody.wautd wrote:*snip*
How stupid can people get?
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I know plenty of fundies who fit that description TODAY.Do you think man used to be a hairy, ugly, illiterate not so bright monkey lookin motherfucker.
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What's hilarious is that you can say "absolutely" in response to the above question, and hell, the entire passage. He'd be dumbfounded, I'm sure, the retard.
"If one needed proof that a guitar was more than wood and string, that a song was more than notes and words, and that a man could be more than a name and a few faded pictures, then Robert Johnson’s recordings were all one could ask for."
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"If there was no almighty God, and the universe was created by star dust and atoms blowing up; then can someone explain this one thing to me: Why are there only two genders?"
Star dust? Atoms blowing up?
That was later followed by
"Besides, if there really have been millions of years, than why can't [asexualy reproducing species] have already happened?"
It's the "sex cannot have evolved" but all backwards
No, of course a God is needed to explain why there aren't any species that reproduce asexualy. No wait, there are tons of such organisms! Oh snap!
Star dust? Atoms blowing up?
That was later followed by
"Besides, if there really have been millions of years, than why can't [asexualy reproducing species] have already happened?"
It's the "sex cannot have evolved" but all backwards
No, of course a God is needed to explain why there aren't any species that reproduce asexualy. No wait, there are tons of such organisms! Oh snap!
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"If we came from monkeys, why can't we speak monkey?"
"Humans grow beards, monkeys don't, therefore humans can't be related to monkeys."
And my all - time favorite:
"Evolution is impossible because of the second law of thermodynamics, which states that in a closed system, entropy always increases. The only way for evolution to work is if some huge source of energy was powering the earth. If there was such a source, scientists would surely know about it."
"Humans grow beards, monkeys don't, therefore humans can't be related to monkeys."
And my all - time favorite:
"Evolution is impossible because of the second law of thermodynamics, which states that in a closed system, entropy always increases. The only way for evolution to work is if some huge source of energy was powering the earth. If there was such a source, scientists would surely know about it."
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That one was great. It's like watching your kid struggle with quadratic equations for the first time. You watch them get so close to understanding (in this case, thermodynamics), but then feel disappointed when they fall away.
"If one needed proof that a guitar was more than wood and string, that a song was more than notes and words, and that a man could be more than a name and a few faded pictures, then Robert Johnson’s recordings were all one could ask for."
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The funny thing about the monkey beard one was that after he posted it, a bunch of people posted about 10000 pictures of monkeys with beards, and he didn't reply.wolveraptor wrote:That one was great. It's like watching your kid struggle with quadratic equations for the first time. You watch them get so close to understanding (in this case, thermodynamics), but then feel disappointed when they fall away.
In case you didn't know, GP4Teens was not precisely shut down; instead, it has mutated into GuidepostsSweet 16. And (yay!) it has acquired a few posters who reliably smack down bullshit.Dark Hellion wrote:For example, on GP4Teens, before it shutdown, I witnessed maybe 5 people who all went from rabid looney creationist to supporting views that were well though out, and highly defensible.
How stupid can people get? What a stupid question.
If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot. the stupidity barrel isn't something you can get down to the dregs on, you know, it is possible to dig a hole under the barrel.
As for the fundie logic, I don't really know why people come up with some of the most irrational arguments. I do too wonder if they even believe their own bullshit, I wonder if you tied them to the easy chair and make them listen to their own bullshit what they'd say, but I sort of wonder if there isn't some method to their madness.
People as animals tend to resist change, and religious institutions tend to be more conservative, going off the "because I said so" principle. With the advent of science, some groups of these "conservatives" may become fearful that they will lose membership (in a sense, lose a part of their family) due to this newfangled "science," and so begin in the almighty attempt to debunk science, make it look bad, and in a sense, tighten their grip on "traditional" values.
Ironically, that tightening of grip may very well be what drives people away.
Additionally, you are probably dealing with a lot of people that hear the words of their preacher, who no doubt knows what combination of pseudoscience works to justify his job, and what doesn't. Kinda like any other bureaucracy, it finds a way to justify its own existence. Everyone else foots the bill. I don't think you're listening to the preacher here, you're probably looking at the mad scribbling of the preachee, who knows only a few tidbits of what the preacher said, knows a few basic facts about science, and hence is capable of blowing everything out of proportion. He then goes on to state, "Well a bunch of atoms blowing up is ludicrous, so there couldn't have been a big bang!" Well, he's right. It wasn't a bunch of atoms getting bored and deciding to commit suicide, it was a form of matter far more dense, probably something we haven't been able to observe, some say it might have been two strings colliding (and I'm waiting to see one of them smash two balls of yarn together by hand and going "see, nothing happens.")
It may very well be one group trying to justify its existence, trying to get more following, and distorting the facts as it goes. Nothing different from any other bureau I've ever stumbled through.
If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot. the stupidity barrel isn't something you can get down to the dregs on, you know, it is possible to dig a hole under the barrel.
As for the fundie logic, I don't really know why people come up with some of the most irrational arguments. I do too wonder if they even believe their own bullshit, I wonder if you tied them to the easy chair and make them listen to their own bullshit what they'd say, but I sort of wonder if there isn't some method to their madness.
People as animals tend to resist change, and religious institutions tend to be more conservative, going off the "because I said so" principle. With the advent of science, some groups of these "conservatives" may become fearful that they will lose membership (in a sense, lose a part of their family) due to this newfangled "science," and so begin in the almighty attempt to debunk science, make it look bad, and in a sense, tighten their grip on "traditional" values.
Ironically, that tightening of grip may very well be what drives people away.
Additionally, you are probably dealing with a lot of people that hear the words of their preacher, who no doubt knows what combination of pseudoscience works to justify his job, and what doesn't. Kinda like any other bureaucracy, it finds a way to justify its own existence. Everyone else foots the bill. I don't think you're listening to the preacher here, you're probably looking at the mad scribbling of the preachee, who knows only a few tidbits of what the preacher said, knows a few basic facts about science, and hence is capable of blowing everything out of proportion. He then goes on to state, "Well a bunch of atoms blowing up is ludicrous, so there couldn't have been a big bang!" Well, he's right. It wasn't a bunch of atoms getting bored and deciding to commit suicide, it was a form of matter far more dense, probably something we haven't been able to observe, some say it might have been two strings colliding (and I'm waiting to see one of them smash two balls of yarn together by hand and going "see, nothing happens.")
It may very well be one group trying to justify its existence, trying to get more following, and distorting the facts as it goes. Nothing different from any other bureau I've ever stumbled through.
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