Scary fundie quotes

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-11 08:12pm

How often does this sort of thing happen? That guy's a real nut...

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-05-11 08:14pm

Thirdfain wrote:How often does this sort of thing happen? That guy's a real nut...

Not too often, but not rarely, either. This guy is the worst one I can remember, except for maybe the WCOTC swine (but even Arminius didn't have the wall of ignorance of this one). Arminius eventually gave up and resorted to insults and spamming; this one refuses to budge on anything, and goes on and on and on.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-05-11 08:14pm

Thirdfain wrote:How often does this sort of thing happen? That guy's a real nut...

Yes he is. KOOKOO!!

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-05-11 08:15pm

Probably unloaded on us by rogue TrekBBS elements.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-05-11 08:15pm

Durran Korr wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:How often does this sort of thing happen? That guy's a real nut...
Not too often, but not rarely, either. This guy is the worst one I can remember, except for maybe the WCOTC swine (but even Arminius didn't have the wall of ignorance of this one). Arminius eventually gave up and resorted to insults and spamming; this one refuses to budge on anything, and goes on and on and on.

I hope this one does the spam/insults too, those trolls are phun to kill!

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-05-11 08:16pm

Dalton wrote:Probably unloaded on us by rogue TrekBBS elements.

I wouldn't doubt it one bit.

Fucktards!

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-05-11 08:54pm

Alyeska wrote:
"Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it. ... Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory."
- Rev. Jimmy Swaggart
ROFL!!! Evolution as a philosophy!?!? Oh yes, I live my life according to the philosophy of evolution!

No that guy is wrong. Evolution is a religion. Didn't he read any of the ICR "documents" ?

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-05-11 09:33pm

Thirdfain wrote:How often does this sort of thing happen? That guy's a real nut...

I think the debate with him has to be the most long-winded stalemate of a debate since DarkStar was here. And, like DarkStar, this EvilGrey guy just ignores the rebuttals and repeats the same arguments.

Hobot · Post by **Hobot** » 2003-05-11 09:39pm

EvilGrey wrote:
Hobot wrote:
EvilGrey wrote: I've elucidated upon this already. Go back and reread!
You only said that God is above morality and amoral. That doesn't explain how is love. At best, he is cold and heartless.
That's like saying a pencil is cold and heartless.

But God isn't an inanimate object. He is a sentient being. You claim he is love, but yet he has commited genocide and infanticide. Even if you think that's ok for God to do it(and I don't see how any sane person can think that) that definitely isn't an expression of love.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-11 09:43pm

I think the debate with him has to be the most long-winded stalemate of a debate since DarkStar was here. And, like DarkStar, this EvilGrey guy just ignores the rebuttals and repeats the same arguments.

It's very exasperating. It was kind of like debating with a concrete wall.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-05-11 09:46pm

I like how he DEMANDED proof of how evil the Christian God was, and then fell back on the standard "the OT doesn't matter" defense when we provided loads of it.

Temjin · Post by **Temjin** » 2003-05-11 09:49pm

Ya' know, I read through this entire thread and all I see is this Evilgrey guy making unsubstantiated claims and broad generalizations.

I have a few questions to ask this guy myself:

1. You say that God can be proven to exist by using logic. Please explain to me your reasoning. PM me if you do not wan to clutter up the thread.

2. You say that all atheists are devoid of morality. This is quite a broad generalization. Please prove this claim.

3. You say that morality cannot exist without God. I would much enjoy you trying proving this.

Now let's see if he'll answer.....

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-05-11 09:53pm

Those questions have already been asked many different times by many different individuals. I wouldn't expect answers any sooner than you would expect Scooter to explain what exactly the magical trick the Death Star uses is.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-05-11 09:54pm

I like how he DEMANDED proof of how evil the Christian God was, and then fell back on the standard "the OT doesn't matter" defense when we provided loads of it.

Even worse, he went on to say that it didn't MATTER how evil the Christian God is- the Christian God is above morality!

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-05-11 10:55pm

Guys, you've missed a few opportunities in this thread. So if this moron comes back:

- Repeat the poison challenge. Repeatedly.

- Provide the NT quote where Jesus says not to touch a single whit of the OT law:

Matthew

5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-05-11 10:57pm

EvilGrey wrote:
Frank Hipper wrote:Destructive? Got examples of ATHEISM being destructive?
Stalin and Mao. Those two have caused more death and destruction than all religions combined in the entire history of humanity.

You know, when I signed off this morning, there were 63 replies to this thread. I spent the day visiting my mother in the hospital, and what a surprise when I had when I got home!

I certainly hope the trap I set for Brainiac here isn't lost on most people in the above quoted text.

Atheism is typed in:
A) All caps.
B) Boldface text.

Now why would I highlight the term atheism, hmmmm, perhaps because I knew exactly what this poltroon was going to claim? Such a tired, hackneyed, beat to death misrepresentation and example of poor language skills.

He cannot distuingish between individuals, being ATHEISTS, and ATHEISM, an ideology.

Thank you for dancing to this, goof-ass! I'm just sorry I wasn't around today to see you bury yourself.
Oh well, I've got more than 200 replies of comedy gold to read in this thread, I just had to post this before I do!

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-05-11 10:59pm

I tried the poison challenge twice. I brought to his attention that Jesus was vague with what parts of the OT he wanted to see discarded. I asked him how he justified his faith. Nothing works. Darkstar is a reasonable, fair debater when compared to this guy.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-05-11 11:01pm

He's a Stone Deaf Ideologue. Why do you even bother? Nothing you say can penetrate. Lost cause, game over, go home. Let him bleat among the other sheep.

NapoleonGH · Post by **NapoleonGH** » 2003-05-11 11:07pm

Because dalton, what else are we going to do?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-05-11 11:08pm

Hell, I didn't know what I was getting into. I thought it would just go on for a page or so (like the other troll of the moment, ChaosBurnFlame) and then he would shut up and leave.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-05-11 11:15pm

I smelled it coming when he said "I'm here to preach the truth!"

And Dalton, I've seen reasonably intelligent people poke dead animals with a stick, just to see how bad they smell, I couldn't ignore this piece of work for pretty much the same reason, even though I missed the majority of it.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-05-12 02:33am

Temjin wrote:Ya' know, I read through this entire thread and all I see is this Evilgrey guy making unsubstantiated claims and broad generalizations.

I have a few questions to ask this guy myself:

1. You say that God can be proven to exist by using logic. Please explain to me your reasoning. PM me if you do not wan to clutter up the thread.

2. You say that all atheists are devoid of morality. This is quite a broad generalization. Please prove this claim.

3. You say that morality cannot exist without God. I would much enjoy you trying proving this.

Now let's see if he'll answer.....

Wait a minute -- debates like Darkstar, claims he can prove God's existence logically... this sounds like GC we're dealing with. Am I wrong? I hope so. But I'm checking this boy's registration date just to make sure. We're either dealing with a clone, or the genuine article.

EDIT: I don't think we're dealing with a clone. This guy signed up today. Not only does he make the same stupid claim that he can prove God's existence using logic, he employs the same debate tactics, and his language patterns are even the same. It may not be Willie The Southern Baptist Jelly-Roll Preacher, but I'm not going to fall off my chair with shock if we find out it is him, either.

By the way, I had the "God is Good"/"No, he isn't." conversation with the TNZ trolls awhile back. Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

Me: God committed genocide/torture/etc.
TNZ Goon #1: But since we know God is good, he would never behave that way.
Me: But since the Bible clearly depicts him behaving that way, we know that God is not good.
TNZ Goon #2: Ha! God is above the human concepts of Good and Evil!
Me: Suppose I accept that claim. If God exists independent of concepts of Good and Evil, I must accept that God is not evil. Conversely, you must accept that God is not good. Concession accepted. Thank you.

They weren't thrilled.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-05-12 03:04am

Raoul Duke Jr. wrote:Me: Suppose I accept that claim. If God exists independent of concepts of Good and Evil, I must accept that God is not evil. Conversely, you must accept that God is not good. Concession accepted. Thank you.

They weren't thrilled.

I imagine they weren't.

I was really disapointed that this brain-donor ran off last night so early. I KNEW exactly what he was going to say. I was enjoying myself, and he had to go and ruin it!

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-05-12 03:33am

Alyeska wrote:
"There will never be world peace until God's house and God's people are given their rightful place of leadership at the top of the world. How can there be peace when drunkards, drug dealers, communists, atheists, New Age worshipers of Satan, secular humanists, oppressive dictators, greedy moneychangers, revolutionary assassins, adulterers, and homosexuals are on top?"
- Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p. 227, Word Publishing, 1991
I knew there was a reason why I hated this man.

3 out of 11! Not bad Mr. George W. Bush!

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-05-12 03:58am

EvilGrey wrote:I think you'll seldom find an atheist who does not believe his beliefs are right and all others are wrong, hence the comment, the veracity of which is quite tenable.

I'm an atheist! And I believe that all other beliefs are right! All my beliefs are wrong! Including this one!