Bible bashing in the media

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-20 08:38pm

Of course. Terrorism is a highly effective way to effect change if you have the power to back it up. Very positive lesson that those old stories teach us

I don't mean to actually start a huge debate, but if 'your people' were enslaved, and there was no other recourse, what would you do?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-20 08:41pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
Of course. Terrorism is a highly effective way to effect change if you have the power to back it up. Very positive lesson that those old stories teach us
I don't mean to actually start a huge debate, but if 'your people' were enslaved, and there was no other recourse, what would you do?

If you have the power to kill millions? Kill the slavers, not their children. What the fuck is so hard to understand about the simple morality of attacking only those who directly harm you, instead of helpless innocents? Why the fuck do Christians feel compelled to defend even the most heinous acts if they're in the Bible?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-20 08:42pm

Just wonderin'

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-01-20 09:06pm

why not simply make the egyptians go "oh were sorry, we shouldnt keep slaves" if god is so all powerful.

The entire idea of an allpowerful god destroying shitloads of people makes no sense at all, he would simply snap his fingers and change things to the way he likes it without giving people the opportunity to get blown up.

Sektor31 · Post by **Sektor31** » 2003-01-20 09:07pm

If someone commits a genocide, BURN 'EM AT THE STAKE!!!!!!!!!!

If God decides to wipe out all non-whites, praise the lord!

Post by **Steve** » 2003-01-20 09:49pm

So what would you prefer, from a viewer's POV. The Moses of TPoE or Heston's Moses in TTC?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-20 10:27pm

Steve wrote:So what would you prefer, from a viewer's POV. The Moses of TPoE or Heston's Moses in TTC?

How about something which shows both Moses' point of view and the Egyptians' point of view? How about showing Pharoah's advisors breaking down in tears when the Lord hardens his heart every time he's about to falter, using him as a puppet so he can showcase his evil destructive power? How about a POV which shows the cruelty of the whole thing? Ah, but of course, that wouldn't sell very well to the Southern Redneck Bigot Brigade.

Post by **Steve** » 2003-01-20 10:40pm

Nice reply, Darth Sheridan.

Sektor31 · Post by **Sektor31** » 2003-01-20 11:28pm

What's the worst that could happen if some TV show released "anti-Christian" content? Hate mail by fundies? Cancellation?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-20 11:34pm

Sektor31 wrote:What's the worst that could happen if some TV show released "anti-Christian" content? Hate mail by fundies? Cancellation?

Depending on how strong it is, you could see anything up to and including massive boycotts, protests, etc. The parent company would take a big hit from advertisers pulling their money and would be forced to cancel.

Look at Falcon and how he leaps from "no religion in government" to "anti-religion Nazis trying to eradicate religion"; fundies are all too eager to claim persecution at the slightest provocation. They would claim that any show bluntly criticizing Christianity is "hate propaganda", liken it to Nazism, and demand that it be taken off the air. Moreover, they would undoubtedly get their way.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-01-21 02:06am

Darth Wong wrote:
Steve wrote:So what would you prefer, from a viewer's POV. The Moses of TPoE or Heston's Moses in TTC?
How about something which shows both Moses' point of view and the Egyptians' point of view? How about showing Pharoah's advisors breaking down in tears when the Lord hardens his heart every time he's about to falter, using him as a puppet so he can showcase his evil destructive power? How about a POV which shows the cruelty of the whole thing? Ah, but of course, that wouldn't sell very well to the Southern Redneck Bigot Brigade.

Don't forget, there should be one of the average Egyptian family who has their first born cruelly die on them.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-01-21 11:56am

Darth Wong wrote:
Steve wrote:So what would you prefer, from a viewer's POV. The Moses of TPoE or Heston's Moses in TTC?
How about something which shows both Moses' point of view and the Egyptians' point of view?

Just a question: Wouldn't that expose Moses as a delusional megalomaniac??

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-21 12:02pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Steve wrote:So what would you prefer, from a viewer's POV. The Moses of TPoE or Heston's Moses in TTC?
How about something which shows both Moses' point of view and the Egyptians' point of view?
Just a question: Wouldn't that expose Moses as a delusional megalomaniac??

That's the idea.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-01-21 12:25pm

So, I guess this would be a no-no.

Demon: HA! Crosses don't work on me, I'm a Christian!

Guy: WHAT!?

Demon: I love Christianity, all the bloodshed their god calls for. it's a real treat to see, especially when some moron decied to actually carry that part out instead of the lovey dovey, weak-kneed ponces that seem to be everywhere,

guy: But that's not the point of chrisitiantiy!

Demon: it is to me! A Genocidal, homophobic, self-centered, mysoginist diety is just what us demons need!