Anti-fundie virus

[MKSheppard]

A brilliant scientist has created an incredibly lethal virus that only attacks religious fundamentalists. This virus is 100% reliable, so there is no risk of anyone else being harmed. If the virus is released, it will result in the immediate death of all fundies.

Can you reverse engineer this to kill Liberals? I want this new virus
then airdropped over New York City, Philadelphia, Baltimore, San
Francisco, Washington DC, Prince Georges County, MD and
Montgomery County, MD....

mass murder is a small price to pay for freedom from liberal jackasses
in the cities deciding the course of the rest of the country...

[Darth Wong]

The Nazis were brainwashed people who sought out and killed people AND supported a war against Europe. There is a bit of a difference between the two groups.

Why? In the past, fundies have committed an incredibly long list of crimes and they have killed many more people than the Nazis. The question is one of individual rights (the right to be tried as an individual rather than a member of a group) rather than defending the morality of fundies as a group, because fundies as a group have an incredibly bad record and if they were judged as a group, would probably merit some severe punishment.

[data_link]

Can you reverse engineer this to kill Liberals? I want this new virus then airdropped over New York City, Philadelphia, Baltimore, San Francisco, Washington DC, Prince Georges County, MD and Montgomery County, MD....

mass murder is a small price to pay for freedom from liberal jackasses
in the cities deciding the course of the rest of the country...

Now THIS, David, is an example of killing someone for their beliefs. If MKSheppad ever posts a thread like this, then it should be locked.

[MKSheppard]

Now THIS, David, is an example of killing someone for their beliefs. If MKSheppad ever posts a thread like this, then it should be locked.

Fuck you, so It's OK to massmurder Fundies, but not the
misbegotten hellspawn who are worse than Fundies?

[haas mark]

Now THIS, David, is an example of killing someone for their beliefs. If MKSheppad ever posts a thread like this, then it should be locked.

Fuck you, so It's OK to massmurder Fundies, but not the
misbegotten hellspawn who are worse than Fundies?

It's because they have some sort of rational beliuefs. Fundies continually oppress anyone that is agianst their ebliefs in the smallest way. Part of being liberal (in its literal sense) is to be open to new ideas.

[Darth Wong]

Fuck you, so It's OK to massmurder Fundies, but not the misbegotten hellspawn who are worse than Fundies?

Only a blithering idiot could seriously argue that liberals have done more damage to human society throughout history than fundies.

[MKSheppard]

Only a blithering idiot could seriously argue that liberals have done more damage to human society throughout history than fundies.

I can remember when we had good old fashioned toys back in the 1980s,
and when MEGATRON turned into a fucking GUN....now he has to turn into
a tank......

Or how you could find good old fashioned toy guns at Toys 'R Us in the 80s,
now....the only thing is cheesy "laser guns" from Star Wars....

[Coyote]

Can you reverse engineer this to kill Liberals?

Now THIS, David, is an example of killing someone for their beliefs. If MKSheppad ever posts a thread like this, then it should be locked.

Ya better "Heil" when ya say that, Pilgrim.

How is your scenario even remotely different from MKSheppards? A group of people who have an extreme beliefe system are to be wiped out? This is okay... as long as it is not a bunch of people who believe in the same things you believe in, huh?

Did it ever even occur to you that you might be on someone else's short list? Surprise! I hope that puncture/deflate sound is your sense of moral superiority...

If Fundie harassment was the only problem, oy vey! They kill people, dude, gays and ethnic groups and other religions. They beat them in alleys and in bars, they beat them in campuses, they beat them in city and country. They drag them behind cars and tie them to fenceposts in the middle of the night and leave them to die. They attack, beat, and lynch interracial couples.

That said-- I still refuse to join their ranks and become as them. When the Fundies are gone, who is next?

[data_link]

Fuck you, so It's OK to massmurder Fundies, but not the misbegotten hellspawn who are worse than Fundies?

Only a blithering idiot could seriously argue that liberals have done more damage to human society throughout history than fundies.

Looks like they picked the perfect man for the job.

[data_link]

Ya better "Heil" when ya say that, Pilgrim.

How is your scenario even remotely different from MKSheppards? A group of people who have an extreme beliefe system are to be wiped out? This is okay... as long as it is not a bunch of people who believe in the same things you believe in, huh?

Did it ever even occur to you that you might be on someone else's short list? Surprise! I hope that puncture/deflate sound is your sense of moral superiority...

If Fundie harassment was the only problem, oy vey! They kill people, dude, gays and ethnic groups and other religions. They beat them in alleys and in bars, they beat them in campuses, they beat them in city and country. They drag them behind cars and tie them to fenceposts in the middle of the night and leave them to die. They attack, beat, and lynch interracial couples.

That said-- I still refuse to join their ranks and become as them. When the Fundies are gone, who is next?

No one, as people who hold logic and reason superior to the words of some damned book are able to work out their differences in a logical fashion.

And yes, I am well aware that I am on the 50 most wanted list in fundie circles, which is the real reason why I wouldn't hesitate to release the virus. But as I said - opinions based on self-preservation are inherently biased, which is why I'm not using it as an argument.

And since when have liberals belief systems been extreme?

[Darth Wong]

Only a blithering idiot could seriously argue that liberals have done more damage to human society throughout history than fundies.

I can remember when we had good old fashioned toys back in the 1980s,
and when MEGATRON turned into a fucking GUN....now he has to turn into
a tank......

I still have a Megatron gun. Lots of toy guns, actually.

Or how you could find good old fashioned toy guns at Toys 'R Us in the 80s, now....the only thing is cheesy "laser guns" from Star Wars....

I've got a box full of toy guns. Go to the Dollar Store to buy them.

PS. If this is the best you can do for the evils of liberals, I'm afraid you lose to the tens of millions tortured and killed by fundies throughout history.

[David]

I thank David, Supreme Lord of Monkeys for his fairness in judgment. That said, I would like to know how I gave anyone the impression that I adovacate killing people for their beliefs? Perhaps he misses the part where I said religous fundamentalists as opposed to simply religious people? Perhaps he is not aware of the fact that fundies in fact compose a very small fraction of all religious people? Or perhaps he is not aware of the fact that fundies DO nessecarily use their religion to harm other people.

Fundies have:

Committed numerous acts of harassment in their attempts to convert everyone to their religion.

The Republican and Democratic parties called my house numerous times a day in the last election asking that I vote for their candidate and donate money. I'd consider that an attempt to convert me to their way of thinking and harrasement, but I don't advocate that they die for it. I've never had any fundie do this to me.

Attempted (and succeeded in some states) in mandating that a portion of their religion be taught in science classes.

People have a right to believe what they want. No amount of teaching can force me to believe either evolution or any type of religion.

Taught millions of people not to think.

My college professor would disagree with you. He is one of the most intelligent people I know, and he belongs to a cult. As I said before, people can think and choose for themselves.

Pubicly attacked science in all political avenues, thereby forcing scientists to spend inordinate amounts of time defending their profession as opposed to doing genuine research.

Seems to me that in pursuit of their defense they have done more research than if things like evolution had never been questioned. My enemies make me strong, my friends make me weak.

Infiltrated American politics to allow for the U.S. support of highly immoral regimes (Israel)

This is altogther an entirely different subject, but I think what Israel has done since they have existed in modern times is far more restrained than what their opponents have tried to do to them. They could have killed every Muslim in the Middle East if they wanted to. Not only have they shown that they are willing to co-exist with other non-Israelis, they have tollerated other, large nations bulling them into giving up their land and allowing terrorist attacks to go unpunished.

Discredited mainstream religion with their bigoted attitudes.

By saying discredited you say that the fundies have proven that they are right, and mainstream religion wrong.

Harassed hundreds of millions of innocent non-fundies, for not conforming to their bigoted moral codes.

So you propose death to all people who harass you? I feel sorry for telemarketers if you ever get control of everything.

Attempted (and succeded in some states) to outlaw:
Premarital sex

Care to back that up?

Anal sex

Run Mike! You are going to prison.

Homosexuality

So Verilon and company are posting from jail?

Satanism

Really? PPOR

Atheism

PPOR

Science

Like I said, I know some professors that would disagree with you

Abortion

When was this exactly?

Swearing

Oh shit I'm going to jail!

Democracy

So my vote a few days ago went into the trash?

Thought

Please.

And of course, there is that small subset of fundies who are also terrorists.

Tell that to the entire Middle East.

This virus does not, and cannot, infect those who are religious but are nice enough to avoid using those beliefs to justify bigoted or opressive behavior. This does not target people for being religous or engaging in acts of worship. It only targets fundies, who are guilty of using their religious beliefs to proclaim themselves superior to others. If you cannot see the difference between that and killing every person with any type of belief that could not be backed up by scientific proof, then I truly pity you.

'Guilty of their religous beliefs'? Sounds like the thought patrol to me.

[haas mark]

Tell that to the entire Middle East.

That is unfair. You are generalizing that every single person in the Middle East is a fundie, which is incorrect. I know too many people that were form Pakistran (two being enough) that had to go back...and they were not fundies, nor terrorists.

[Frank Hipper]

I still like my virus better. It`s real, and waiting in my fridge, and it doesn`t kill, just embarrases so bad you`ll wish you were dead!

[David]

Coyote wrote~ That said-- I still refuse to join their ranks and become as them. When the Fundies are gone, who is next?


Agreed.

[Darth Wong]

The Republican and Democratic parties called my house numerous times a day in the last election asking that I vote for their candidate and donate money. I'd consider that an attempt to convert me to their way of thinking and harrasement, but I don't advocate that they die for it. I've never had any fundie do this to me.

Blowing up a nightclub in Bali and then ranting that people should "convert to Islam" if they don't want to join the deceased doesn't count? The Crusades, Inquisitions, and Manifest Destiny don't count?

People have a right to believe what they want. No amount of teaching can force me to believe either evolution or any type of religion.

No amount of teaching can force someone to be logical. That does not change the fact that there is a rational path, and fundies are taught not to travel it.

My college professor would disagree with you. He is one of the most intelligent people I know, and he belongs to a cult. As I said before, people can think and choose for themselves.

How do you measure his intelligence? He is clearly not rational if he belongs to a cult.

Seems to me that in pursuit of their defense they have done more research than if things like evolution had never been questioned. My enemies make me strong, my friends make me weak.

Wrong. Work done to contradict creationist lies and propaganda is leeched away from potentially productive work. All of the work necessary to support evolution theory was done more than a century ago; the work being done now is merely political circus-acts, because the creationists have taken their fight to the fickle and ignorant court of public opinion.

This is altogther an entirely different subject, but I think what Israel has done since they have existed in modern times is far more restrained than what their opponents have tried to do to them. They could have killed every Muslim in the Middle East if they wanted to. Not only have they shown that they are willing to co-exist with other non-Israelis, they have tollerated other, large nations bulling them into giving up their land and allowing terrorist attacks to go unpunished.

For every Israeli that dies from Palestinian terrorism, 5 Palestinians die from Israeli soldiers. Your math is seriously deficient.

Attempted (and succeded in some states) to outlaw: Premarital sex

Care to back that up?

See the ACLU. He's not kidding about all of the various laws passed in an effort to snuff out "lifestyles" they disapprove of.

Anal sex

Run Mike! You are going to prison.

Your appeal to ridicule is not a rational argument. He is correct; more than a half-dozen states have outlawed anal sex.

Homosexuality

So Verilon and company are posting from jail?

It is illegal for them to marry in most states, and to have sex in many states. I'd call that criminalization. In some cases, jail terms of up to 15 years are mandated for their "crimes".

Science

Like I said, I know some professors that would disagree with you

Then bring them here, so I can annihilate them, rather than appealing to their anonymous authority. Religious fundamentalism is the enemy of science, and no one but the ignorant and the brainwashed denies this.

Abortion

When was this exactly?

When they started advocating violence against abortion doctors. Many abortion doctors quit because they're afraid for their safety, and a few have been killed.

Swearing

Oh shit I'm going to jail!

Democracy

So my vote a few days ago went into the trash?

Thought

Please.

Actually, if you look throughout history, fundies have historically opposed all of these things. And they would do so again if they gained enough power, since their Bible preaches against all of them. That's the whole point.

I think we've found David's emotional trigger.

[David]

Generalizing~ Of course it is unfair, but the vast majority of peple in the Middle East still subscribe to fundimentalist ideology. Have you ever seen a person living in a Middle East country interviewed? I've never seen any of them say that they are both Muslim/ Jewish and also believe that their religion is in no way superior to another religion.

[haas mark]

How do you measure his intelligence? He is clearly not rational if he belongs to a cult.

I beg to differ (waits for flames). To belong to a cult is not irrational; the beliefs are.

Generalizing~ Of course it is unfair, but the vast majority of peple in the Middle East still subscribe to fundimentalist ideology.

So don't say it applies to the entire Middle East.

Have you ever seen a person living in a Middle East country interviewed? I've never seen any of them say that they are both Muslim/ Jewish and also believe that their religion is in no way superior to another religion.

You fail to realize that both religions are obstentious enough to outlaw the other, thus disallowing that combination. And can you answer the question proving your side of the argument?

[Darth Wong]

How do you measure his intelligence? He is clearly not rational if he belongs to a cult.

I beg to differ (waits for flames). To belong to a cult is not irrational; the beliefs are.

You don't see why it's irrational to subscribe to irrational beliefs?

[haas mark]

How do you measure his intelligence? He is clearly not rational if he belongs to a cult.

I beg to differ (waits for flames). To belong to a cult is not irrational; the beliefs are.

You don't see why it's irrational to subscribe to irrational beliefs?

I do, just that it is my interpretation that you are saying that the person himself is irrational, not the action.

[Alyrium Denryle]

In 11 states i can be finesd and placed in prison. In Idaho, The max sentence is nothing less than LIFE IN PRISON! In Michigan the max is 15 years for the first offense, LIFE for the second.

[Darth Wong]

You don't see why it's irrational to subscribe to irrational beliefs?

I do, just that it is my interpretation that you are saying that the person himself is irrational, not the action.

If a person is behaving irrationally, we normally refer to the person as being irrational. You can criticize the semantics of that, but it's standard use of language.

[data_link]

In 11 states i can be finesd and placed in prison. In Idaho, The max sentence is nothing less than LIFE IN PRISON! In Michigan the max is 15 years for the first offense, LIFE for the second.

Now class, what do all these states have in common?

:Jhonny raises his hand:

Yes Jhonny?

Jhonny: A fundie controlled government?

Correct.

[David]

Blowing up a nightclub in Bali and then ranting that people should "convert to Islam" if they don't want to join the deceased doesn't count? The Crusades, Inquisitions, and Manifest Destiny don't count?





I was talking about harassment, not murder. There is a difference between a Jehovah's Witness coming to you door and bothering you with their nonsense, and a Jehovah's Witness tring to convert you at gunpoint. Those bombers used religion to justify their hatred. Anyone willing to kill another human being will justify it in one way or another.

[David]

No amount of teaching can force someone to be logical. That does not change the fact that there is a rational path, and fundies are taught not to travel it.



No amount of teaching can force someone to be illogical. How many members here have said that they were raised in a fundie home, and chose to reject the teaching they were brought up with in favor of aethism?