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Ever been driving in the car and hear a radio station that gets you so aggravated, that if you saw a church up the road you'd have to REALLY restrain yourself from crashing into it at 140 miles an hour? :banghead:

I was listening to a special report from Focus on the Family celebrating Ben Stein's new movie that apparently shows the great truth of Intelligent design. Oh and did you know that Darwinism was the basic foundation of Nazi Germany? And the Eugenics movement? Oh and Planned Parenthood was also involved. Started as a major racist plot.

I had to shut it off after I damn put my head near the window in aggravation. There was more but I can barely SPEAK right now as I'm recalling the blatant bullshit. And these people have the nerve to declare their word is the gospel "truth"?

#^*\%& :evil:
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Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, who was a fairly rabid eugenicist and racist, along with many of her early supporters.

That's the thing with good lies - they are founded on a kernel of truth, then distorted.
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Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, who was a fairly rabid eugenicist and racist, along with many of her early supporters.
Really? That IS disturbing. :shock:

Still as you say, they are essentially misrepresenting everything in every way imaginable to damn motivations. They went much further with things and basically made it sound like Darwin's work was the bible for Nazism, and the people who dared to suppress the beautiful 'truth' of Intelligent Design were evil Satan worshippers.
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Justforfun000 wrote:
Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, who was a fairly rabid eugenicist and racist, along with many of her early supporters.
Really? That IS disturbing. :shock:

Still as you say, they are essentially misrepresenting everything in every way imaginable to damn motivations. They went much further with things and basically made it sound like Darwin's work was the bible for Nazism, and the people who dared to suppress the beautiful 'truth' of Intelligent Design were evil Satan worshippers.
Misrepresentation of anything that might be offensive to their perspective is their choice method of criticism. Just about any intelligent person would see that anyone tying Darwin to Nazism is as big of a dumbfuck as a Holocaust denier.

As we all know, the bible actually promotes Margaret Sanger's views of racism, as well as other actions that most of modern society finds obhorent.
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[quote="Margeret Sanger: A Plan For Peace']
A Plan for Peace
by MARGARET SANGER

First, put into action President Wilson's fourteen points, upon which terms Germany and Austria surrendered to the Allies in 1918.

Second, have Congress set up a special department for the study of population problems and appoint a Parliament of Population, the directors representing the various branches of science: this body to direct and control the population through birth rates and immigration, and to direct its distribution over the country according to national needs consistent with taste, fitness and interest of individuals. The main objects of the Population Congress would be:

a. to raise the level and increase the general intelligence of population.

b. to increase the population slowly by keeping the birth rate at its present level of fifteen per thousand, decreasing the death rate below its present mark of 11 per thousand.

c. to keep the doors of immigration closed to the entrance of certain aliens whose condition is known to be detrimental to the stamina of the race, such as feebleminded, idiots, morons, insane, syphilitic, epileptic, criminal, professional prostitutes, and others in this class barred by the immigration laws of 1924.

d. to apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.

e. to insure the country against future burdens of maintenance for numerous offspring as may be born of feebleminded parents, by pensioning all persons with transmissible disease who voluntarily consent to sterilization.

f. to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization.

g. to apportion farm lands and homesteads for these segregated persons where they would be taught to work under competent instructors for the period of their entire lives.

The first step would thus be to control the intake and output of morons, mental defectives, epileptics.

The second step would be to take an inventory of the secondary group such as illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, dope-fiends; classify them in special departments under government medical protection, and segregate them on farms and open spaces as long as necessary for the strengthening and development of moral conduct.

Having corralled this enormous part of our population and placed it on a basis of health instead of punishment, it is safe to say that fifteen or twenty millions of our population would then be organized into soldiers of defense---defending the unborn against their own disabilities.

The third step would be to give special attention to the mothers' health, to see that women who are suffering from tuberculosis, heart or kidney disease, toxic goitre, gonorrhea, or any disease where the condition of pregnancy disturbs their health are placed under public health nurses to instruct them in practical, scientific methods of contraception in order to safeguard their lives---thus reducing maternal mortality.

The above steps may seem to place emphasis on a health program instead of on tariffs, moratoriums and debts, but I believe that national health is the first essential factor in any program for universal peace.

With the future citizen safeguarded from hereditary taints, with five million mental and moral degenerates segregated, with ten million women and ten million children receiving adequate care, we could then turn our attention to the basic needs for international peace.

There would then be a definite effort to make population increase slowly and at a specified rate, in order to accommodate and adjust increasing numbers to the best social and economic system.

In the meantime we should organize and join an International League of Low Birth Rate Nations to secure and maintain World Peace.[/quote]

It's not made clear there, but among her other writings and speeches, you can find evidence that part of what she's talking about with the whole 'dysgenic' and 'tainted' thing is interracial children.
Margaret Sanger wrote: The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics.... We are convinced that racial regeneration, like individual regeneration, must come 'from within.' That is, it must be autonomous, self-directive, and not imposed from without.
Margaret Sanger wrote: We maintain that a woman possessing an adequate knowledge of her reproductive functions is the best judge of the time and conditions under which her child should be brought into the world. We further maintain that it is her right, regardless of all other considerations, to determine whether she shall bear children or not, and how many children she shall bear if she chooses to become a mother... Only upon a free, self-determining motherhood can rest any unshakable structure of racial betterment.
Yeah, she was definitely a bigot, a racist, and a eugenicist, and she did found PP in part to further her goals.

Attempting to indict the current Planned Parenthood for this checkered past is an appeal to motive, however.
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Terralthra wrote:Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, who was a fairly rabid eugenicist and racist, along with many of her early supporters.

That's the thing with good lies - they are founded on a kernel of truth, then distorted.
Creationists excell in projecting their own dishonesty on things they don't agree with
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I vagely remember a tv movie about the birth of Planned Parenthood in the 20s in response to providing birth control services to the poor, so young mothers wouldnt have to get dangerous back alley abortions.


Planned Parenthood was created to REDUCE ABORTION!
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