Yeah, yeah, "All the advances Multivac has made for humanity were undone by immortality" and all that. I'm still looking forward to the 60 being the new 40 .Wired wrote:Next-Generation Longevity Drug Works Mouse Wonders
A potential longevity-enhancing drug has passed its final animal testing challenge, pushing closer to reality the dream of all-purpose drugs against diseases of aging.
Mice given the new drug, called SRT1720, gorged on high-fat food for four months without gaining weight or developing diabetes, and ran twice as far on a treadmill as their control-group counterparts. Similar drugs are expected to follow down the pipeline.
"If you look at all the things that have fundamentally changed medicine in the last 150 years, washing hands would be one, and antibiotics another. This could be the third," said study co-author Philip Lambert, a pharmacologist at Sirtris Pharmaceuticals, the drug's developer. "If you could keep your health for another 10 or 15 years, that would be amazing."
SRT1720 activates one of several enzymes that regulate the function of mitochondria — cellular power generators that convert glucose into chemical energy. The wearing down of these generators has been linked to heart disease, Alzheimer's disease, diabetes, cancer and other age-related afflictions.
That same enzyme is also targeted by resveratrol, a naturally occurring compound that reduces age-related diseases in lab animals and is already used by longevity enthusiasts. Researchers at Sirtris showed last year that synthetic drugs that activate the enzyme produced the same cell-level changes as resveratrol, but the tests only lasted for two weeks. The latest study lasted four months, suggesting that SRT1720 — and perhaps the class of enzyme activators expected to follow — are for real.
"This shows you can make drugs that work even better than resveratrol," said David Sinclair, co-founder of Sirtris, who compared the finding to the synthesis of antibiotics inspired by early fungal components. "Now we've got human-designed synthetic molecules. We're not talking about plant extracts anymore."
Rafael de Cabo, a National Institute on Aging gerontologist who is researching SRT1720 but was not involved in the study, published today in Cell Metabolism, agreed with Sinclair's assessment, though he cautioned against premature celebration.
"From rodents to humans is a long, long process," he said. "We've demonstrated this in cells, and in mice. Now we need to move to the next level — primates or humans."
Resveratrol is currently in clinical trials as a diabetes drug, and could be joined next year by SRT1720, said Lambert.
The drug's side effects aren't yet apparent, but resveratrol has proven safe in animals and — anecdotally, at least — in humans. Since SRT1720 works at doses 1000 times lower than resveratrol, said Lambert, it should prove even safer if effective.
He noted that the blood sugar-lowering effects from SRT1720 observed in the study were present in mice on a high-fat diet, but not in mice on standard fare. This suggests that SRT1720 won't produce hypoglycemia, a dangerous dip in blood sugar that is a common side effect of diabetes treatments.
If SRT1720 and resveratrol are approved for diabetes, they will likely be used off-label to treat other diseases, from cancer to Parkinson's, that become more common with age and may involve age-related mitochondrial degeneration and the resulting metabolic disarray of key tissues and organs.
That model of disease is not yet the consensus in the medical community, which views those diseases as having multiple causes rather than a common root, and has generally ignored mitochondrial factors in its search for cures.
"The study again indicates that it's metabolic function that regulates diabetes and obesity, rather than changes in the activity of structural genes," said University of California, Irvine mitochondrial therapy pioneer Douglas Wallace, referring to genes that code for non-mitochondrial functions. "You have to look at tissue metabolism to understand the disease biology. The traditional mechanism of looking at a few nuclear gene processes is not going to be productive."
As for longevity-enhancing drugs, said Wallace, "there will be others."
Specific SIRT1 Activation Mimics Low Energy Levels and Protects against Diet-Induced Metabolic Disorders by Enhancing Fat Oxidation [Cell Metabolism]
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I sat next to a guy in class who argued that young people today had a good chance of beloning to "the forever generation".
I.e. if you dont die in a car accident/if society dosent break down due to war or enviroment, or something like that, you should stand a good chance of seeing the anti or even reverse aging tech moving faster than your lifespan does.
Personally I tend not to get my hopes up but it would be nice to live for a century or so, and having the meds there to take away the pain and suffering when things draws to an end.
I.e. if you dont die in a car accident/if society dosent break down due to war or enviroment, or something like that, you should stand a good chance of seeing the anti or even reverse aging tech moving faster than your lifespan does.
Personally I tend not to get my hopes up but it would be nice to live for a century or so, and having the meds there to take away the pain and suffering when things draws to an end.
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That's Richard Grey's argument actually (well known longevity expert, has a gigantic beard). The trick is staying alive long enough while marshalling the necessary resources (although price drops are inevitable, it's doubtful government intervention could do anything against this but create a massive black market).cosmicalstorm wrote:I sat next to a guy in class who argued that young people today had a good chance of beloning to "the forever generation".
I.e. if you dont die in a car accident/if society dosent break down due to war or enviroment, or something like that, you should stand a good chance of seeing the anti or even reverse aging tech moving faster than your lifespan does.
Personally I tend not to get my hopes up but it would be nice to live for a century or so, and having the meds there to take away the pain and suffering when things draws to an end.
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Cool. It'd be real nice if this could become available to the general public. I wonder how many years it would add to your life on average?
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His name is Aubrey de Grey, and he calls the strategy SENS; it's actually fairly comprehensive and stands a good chance of working, barring any infrastructure-crushing developments like Peak Oil.DEATH wrote:That's Richard Grey's argument actually (well known longevity expert, has a gigantic beard). The trick is staying alive long enough while marshalling the necessary resources (although price drops are inevitable, it's doubtful government intervention could do anything against this but create a massive black market).cosmicalstorm wrote:I sat next to a guy in class who argued that young people today had a good chance of beloning to "the forever generation".
I.e. if you dont die in a car accident/if society dosent break down due to war or enviroment, or something like that, you should stand a good chance of seeing the anti or even reverse aging tech moving faster than your lifespan does.
Personally I tend not to get my hopes up but it would be nice to live for a century or so, and having the meds there to take away the pain and suffering when things draws to an end.
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While I love the idea in principle (virtual immortality), we better get our fucking asses in gear regarding birth and population control.
I could see it easily getting to the point where it would become illegal to have a child unless the parents are literally volunteering to reduce their life expectancy.
I could see it easily getting to the point where it would become illegal to have a child unless the parents are literally volunteering to reduce their life expectancy.
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This doesn't seem to be a "live forever" drug, just a "live longer" one. If people maintain health as they age, it might even ease some of the strain the current system suffers caring for retirees and geriatrics.Bubble Boy wrote:While I love the idea in principle (virtual immortality), we better get our fucking asses in gear regarding birth and population control.
I could see it easily getting to the point where it would become illegal to have a child unless the parents are literally volunteering to reduce their life expectancy.
That said, if it just ends up prolonging the "slow decline" stage of life, it'll have the inverse effect.
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I'm aware of that. I was addressing the possible outcome of further and more advanced research in this direction.Venator wrote:This doesn't seem to be a "live forever" drug, just a "live longer" one.
Only in the short term; unless this drug is inducing permanent effects of positive health, people will still deteriorate eventually.If people maintain health as they age, it might even ease some of the strain the current system suffers caring for retirees and geriatrics.
That would be my primary concern and a very serious one. You simply cannot expect the vast majority of people to agree to aging more naturally if a readily available means to extend their lifespan is around. And having even larger populations of retirees presents some obvious problems.That said, if it just ends up prolonging the "slow decline" stage of life, it'll have the inverse effect.
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Perhaps I should have clarified; if people stay healthy and independent of care for a greater proportion of their lives, with a steep "drop off", it would reduce strain.Bubble Boy wrote:Only in the short term; unless this drug is inducing permanent effects of positive health, people will still deteriorate eventually.If people maintain health as they age, it might even ease some of the strain the current system suffers caring for retirees and geriatrics.
If it just increases the lifespan without affecting their relative health over time, it does of course lead to problems.
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Honestly, I'm not too interested in this. The years they would be extending are the years that you don't want. At a certain point, needing to pop a Viagra, arthritis, prostate problems, bad vision, ear hair, Alzheimer's, etc get to be a chore. Now if they could make something so that I stayed in the kind of condition I am in in my 20's for years, then I'd be interested.
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Well... what would happen if you took this drug in your 20s, 30s or 40s? I mean, isn't that the portion of your life you would want to extend? It seems like, from the article that that is what they are insinuating, or am I reading too much into "keep your health for another 10 or 15 years". Like stay 35 until you are 50. It doesn't say it has rejuvenating or regenerative properties.
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That sounds like it would probably enhance quality of life, indeed as I understand it it works precisely by helping you keep free of diseases.The wearing down of these generators has been linked to heart disease, Alzheimer's disease, diabetes, cancer and other age-related afflictions.
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Right, so it wouldn't reverse conditions that you already developed. This would have to be a preemptive measure so you don't develop the problems in the first place.Junghalli wrote:That sounds like it would probably enhance quality of life, indeed as I understand it it works precisely by helping you keep free of diseases.The wearing down of these generators has been linked to heart disease, Alzheimer's disease, diabetes, cancer and other age-related afflictions.
Hmmm. I wonder if this could be used to keep athletes in their prime.
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Assuming it works there would still be the massive problem of getting past people who would want it banned as drug use in sports.Hmmm. I wonder if this could be used to keep athletes in their prime.
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Many chronic medical conditions are actually at least partially reversible if everything goes well and you don't develop any new conditions which hinder the recovery. So a drug like this could still improve quality of life for many people and enable them to stay productive longer. It could be a big help for the aging populations of many European countries and Japan. In fact so much that you could expect many governments to subsidize its use in a major way.havokeff wrote:Right, so it wouldn't reverse conditions that you already developed. This would have to be a preemptive measure so you don't develop the problems in the first place.Junghalli wrote:That sounds like it would probably enhance quality of life, indeed as I understand it it works precisely by helping you keep free of diseases.The wearing down of these generators has been linked to heart disease, Alzheimer's disease, diabetes, cancer and other age-related afflictions.