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Link between Pandemrix and narcolepsia?

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They've spent hours talking about this on TV here in Sweden over the past few days. And of course, today a nurse at my dental clinic walked into the lunch-room saying something like "Dear god what have I done to my children getting that stuff in them!".
WHO confirms swine flu vaccine child narcolepsy concerns

February 8, 2011 Twelve countries have reported suspected cases of narcolepsy linked to swine flu jabs, the World Health Organisation said on Tuesday as its scientists said the findings warranted more investigation.

The WHO said in a statement that such sleep disorders, mainly in youngsters, had not been seen with vaccines in the past, and were more frequent in Sweden, Finland and Iceland than in other countries.

However, the UN health agency decided to keep its advice in favour of vaccination, including with the Pandemrix vaccine highlighted in the study, because it still felt the benefits outweighed a relatively small risk, spokeswoman Alison Brunier said.

Narcolepsy is a sleep disorder which causes extreme fatigue and often results in the patient falling soundly asleep without warning, even in the middle of an activity.

The Pandemrix vaccine made by GlaxoSmithKline was used in 47 countries worldwide during the 2009-2010, according to WHO, and was included by the agency in donations made to poor nations during the flu pandemic.

The WHO Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS) last week reviewed data from a Finnish study, which found that children injected with the Pandemrix flu vaccine were nine times more likely to contract narcolepsy than those who were not vaccinated.

"The committee agrees that further investigation is warranted concerning narcolepsy and vaccination against influenza (H1N1) 2009 with Pandemrix and other pandemic H1N1 vaccines," the WHO said.

"An increased risk of narcolepsy has not been observed in association with the use of any vaccines whether against influenza or other diseases in the past," it added.

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) has also launched a probe into the suspected connection.

"Since August 2010, following widespread use of vaccines against influenza (H1N1) 2009, cases of narcolepsy, especially in children and adolescents, have been reported from at least 12 countries," the WHO added.

Brunier noted that the EMA -- the regulatory body responsible for approving the vaccine -- had not taken any action. "There's no change to the WHO's current position on use of pandemic influenza vaccines," she added.

"This means that countries should continue vaccinating against H1N1 to immunise persons at risk of severe disease, using monovalent vaccines including Pandemrix if there is no trivalent seasonal vaccine available," she added.

Monovalent vaccines target a single strain of flu while trivalent vaccines, more commonly used every flu season, are effective against three strains.

The preliminary study by Finland's National Institute for Health and Welfare (THL) published a week ago said the most likely explanation of the pattern found in four to 19 year olds was the "joint effect of the vaccine and some other factor(s)."

It stressed that more investigation was needed.

Last August, THL recommended discontinuing its use against A(H1N1) until it could study the signs of a connection.

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Re: Link between Pandemrix and narcolepsia?

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Could it be a contaminate in the medium used to carry the virus?
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LadyTevar wrote:Could it be a contaminate in the medium used to carry the virus?
Considering the frequency seems to be mostly in Nordic countries it could be genetics at work.
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Aren't vaccines made in batches then sold to individual countries? So, batch *A136*(fictional) might had been primarily sold to Finland and if it was contaminated....


Then there's also other reasons why it might be country specific other than genetic. China is infamous for not storing their vaccines properly, a result of their rural outreach programme.
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Hopefully some strange genetics. For example I know Scandinavians seems to have a much easier time catching diabetes. The vaccine-nuts are having a field-day with this news.
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General Zod wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:Could it be a contaminate in the medium used to carry the virus?
Considering the frequency seems to be mostly in Nordic countries it could be genetics at work.
Probably. The narcolepsy problem is most pronounced in Finland, and Finns have one of the most unusual and isolated genetic pool in continental Europe, a lot more so than even Sweden. It's been a hot topic for months here and investigations are under way. This particular vaccine was also approved with what seems to have been nearly reckless haste, with substantially smaller clinical trials than are normally called for, so there are a lot of angles to cover.

It has no bearing on the safety of other vaccines, such as the MMR and other basics. I'd be wary of giving the Pandemrix shot to my kids if I have any, since there seems to be some linkage, but I have no reservations about any other vaccines.
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