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Building a better mouse eye (and that's just the beginning)
Utilizing neuroscience, gene therapy, and optogenetics, a pair of researchers from Cornell University have created a bionic prosthetic eye that can restore almost-normal vision to animals blinded by destroyed retinas.

We have discussed bionic eyes at length, but for the most part these have been dumb prosthetics — chips that wire themselves into the ganglion cells behind the retina, which are the interface between the retina and optic nerve. These chips receive optical stimuli (via a CMOS sensor, for example), which they transmit as electrical signals to the ganglion cells. These prosthetic eyes can produce a low-resolution grayscale field that the brain can then interpret — which is probably better than being completely blind — but they don’t actually restore sight.

The Cornell prosthetic eye however, developed by Sheila Nirenberg and Chethan Pandarinath, is a much closer analog to a real eye. Its construction and implementation is rather complex, so bear with me.

Comparison of various prosthetic eye/retina technologies

First, gene therapy is used to deliver special proteins to the patient’s damaged retina (i.e. caused by degenerative diseases, such as macular degeneration or diabetic retinopathy). By using optogenetics, these proteins have been modified so that they’re sensitive to light — they’re not quite rods and cones, but they’re along the same lines.

The next step is the clever/unique bit. For years now, Nirenberg has been working on decoding the signals sent by the retina to the brain. A year ago, she cracked this code. At the time, she had only cracked the code used by the mouse retina, but now she’s cracked the monkey code too — and a monkey’s retina is very similar to ours.

That’s not the breakthrough here, though: Nirenberg and Pandarinath have now taken the mouse retina code and developed a working prosthetic, completely restoring a mouse’s vision.

The prosthetic contains a camera pointed forward, a Texas Instruments OMAP 3530 SoC (system-on-a-chip), and a tiny DLP pico projector. The SoC converts the camera’s output into encoded data that the mouse’s brain can understand, and then the projector is used to beam that data to the optogenetic proteins that were earlier placed in the retina using gene therapy. The optogenetic proteins then transmit the encoded signal to the brain, via the ganglion cells and optic nerve. Voila: restored (grayscale) vision.

Prosthetic bionic eye, encoded vs. plain old optogenetic methods

In the image above you can see just how effective Nirenberg and Pandarinath’s prosthetic eye is. The top row is what a normal mouse eye would see (just before it gets eaten, seemingly), and the second row shows the images produced by the prosthetic eye. The bottom right corner shows the image your eye would see if it had only received the optogenetic gene therapy, and none of the fancy camera/neural-encoding tricks.

A bionic prosthetic eye setupWith the monkey retina code worked out, the next step is to build a pair of spectacles with all of the prosthetic equipment built in (pictured right). Before human testing can occur, the gene therapy step needs to be approved — but because similar gene therapies have been approved before, the researchers seem confident that human trials could begin in 1 or 2 years.

For more information, watch the TED video below, hit up the research paper (which is free for now, but may not remain so), or read our previous story about decoding the optic nerve’s signals.

I personally find this to be cool as hell. The article itself has image comparisons that are worth looking at. The improvement over what we've had for several years now is truly impressive. Not just a fuzzy blur, it's actually something where the face is distinguishable.
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seriously off the scale levels of coolness.

I'm living in the future, and I might even get to see it!
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Decoding how the Retina communicates with the brain.
Creating a microchip to do the same...
With a lot of luck two years away from human testing?

That calls for a "Science, Fuck Yeah!"

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Could the system be used on a working Retina to give a normal person nightvision, augmented vision or telescope view?
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Fuck yeah! Now we're getting somewhere. This wouldn't help fix my eyes (it's my nerves that are fucked, damnit) but it's still freaking awesome and coudl help a whole bunch of young blind lads I used to hang out with.

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Pretty cool. It seems to me that the biggest actual advance is interfacing the artificial retina with the optic nerves. I mean, we've known for a while what kind of input the nerves get, we are still just not entirely sure what happens at higher levels of neural processing. This handily avoids any of those questions by just figuring out how to give the nerves the kind of input they are used to getting.

The next large conceptual leap for this line of research is to figure out what happens at higher levels of the visual pathway, which is a much stickier question to answer.
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Holy Technological Leap Mr. Laforge! That's getting close to Star Trek Visor technology.

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tezunegari wrote: Nerd Questions:
Could the system be used on a working Retina to give a normal person nightvision, augmented vision or telescope view?
uh...
possibly...

the retina dosen't send images to the brain, just signals that the brain pieces together into an image, so you'd need a system that goes camera->convert to image (like heat vision) -> decode into retina signal -> send to retina ->send to brain -> piece together artificial image in brain

and it'd involve permanent surgery on the eye. A small heads up screen is more likely, easier and can be taken off.
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tezunegari wrote: Could the system be used on a working Retina to give a normal person nightvision, augmented vision or telescope view?
Without directly manipulating the neural network of the optical pathways itself, there are certain limits. Rudimentary night vision could be achieved with an artificial tapetum lucidum, which would increase the amount of light collected by the photorecepting nerves. However, without a neural adjustment of some sort, the images would appear blurry (due to interference from reflected light). This isn't that complicated, really, compared to what they already did with this retina, it all depends on the mechanism of the interaction with the nerves whether it would be practical to add the lucidum. (Another problem is the size of the pupil itself ... the limits on its dilation would be a major problem with night vision. In fact, many soldiers/special ops folks that use night vision extensively take eye drops to artificially dilate their pupils, because otherwise you can't take full advantage of even the artificial goggles).

Augmented vision... not really sure what you mean, exactly, but for the most part there isn't that much you can do to the eye itself to make it better. You could probably rebuild the entire eye itself and optimize the relative size of all its components ... but again, their are strict limits to what you can do without actual brain surgery to augment the higher processing centers.

Telescopic vision, too, would have its limits based on the physical size of the eye itself. With the right types of artificial lenses you could increase our focal abilities to a certain extent, but not to a huge degree. Remember, there's a reason that all good telescopic sights are more than several inches in length ... the physics of refraction and parallax compensation put hard limits on what can be achieved in a space the size of our eye socket.
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tezunegari wrote:Decoding how the Retina communicates with the brain.
Creating a microchip to do the same...
With a lot of luck two years away from human testing?

That calls for a "Science, Fuck Yeah!"

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Could the system be used on a working Retina to give a normal person nightvision, augmented vision or telescope view?
Not as good as nightvision goggles but probably better than humans normally have, yes-if you mean little bits of stuff popping up to give more info about your surroundings, and only a digital zoom. Digital zoom isn't nearly as good as a telescope, though. All these things can be better accomplished with equipment you put on and take off. Less invasive, too. The nightvision has goggles already. The augmented vision, if I understand what you mean, is being worked on with the Google Glass project. And there are lots of ways to get the lovely zoom features. Actual telescopes and binoculars and various cameras that have both an optics zoom and a digital zoom.

More useable than a nightvision mode would be a mode that allows you to see beyond the visible spectrum, which isn't beyond possible. Walking into a bright room while using infrared isn't gonna be nearly as painful as walking into the same bright room with your light-sensitivity cranked way the hell up.
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tezunegari wrote:Could the system be used on a working Retina to give a normal person nightvision, augmented vision or telescope view?
Although this seems to restore vision, it doesn't restore normal vision at our level of tech. It's better than blindness, but not as good as a properly working natural, organic vision system.

It's analogous to cochlear implants which restore hearing, but not normal hearing. Better than deafness (assuming it works for the person so equipped), but still limited.

I suppose in theory you might get a prosthetic visual system that is "tuned" to receive near ultraviolent or infra-red, or slightly more sensitive to light for a very crude "night" vision, but it's not going to give anyone superpowers nor will justify surgery and permanent alteration of otherwise healthy and properly working eyeballs. External augmentation of the Eyeball Mark 1 will be far superior for the foreseeable future.
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Solauren wrote:Holy Technological Leap Mr. Laforge! That's getting close to Star Trek Visor technology.

AWESOME.
I was going to say this is more like Shadowrun/cyberpunk-genre "cybereye" technology. We're still a ways away from that, though.
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Broomstick wrote:
tezunegari wrote:Could the system be used on a working Retina to give a normal person nightvision, augmented vision or telescope view?
Although this seems to restore vision, it doesn't restore normal vision at our level of tech. It's better than blindness, but not as good as a properly working natural, organic vision system.

It's analogous to cochlear implants which restore hearing, but not normal hearing. Better than deafness (assuming it works for the person so equipped), but still limited.

I suppose in theory you might get a prosthetic visual system that is "tuned" to receive near ultraviolent or infra-red, or slightly more sensitive to light for a very crude "night" vision, but it's not going to give anyone superpowers nor will justify surgery and permanent alteration of otherwise healthy and properly working eyeballs. External augmentation of the Eyeball Mark 1 will be far superior for the foreseeable future.
It's still vastly superior to what's being used on people right now. If the images in the article are accurate, the vision is good enough to read with, even if it would need to be large print. And it will probably keep getting better and better.

Truly spectacular is if they manage to find a way to bypass damage optic nerves. I don't doubt that it'll happen some day, it's just a matter of when. I've always thought the kinds of stuff we're doing with artificial bits was possible and would happen, I just had no idea of the time frame. As early as third grade, if not sooner, I'd been saying how we should interface with nerves for prosthetics and the like. Kinda freaked out my teacher at the time, seeing a kid that age discussing the idea of hooking up to nerves. Especially because that kind of technology was nowhere near as visible as it is now.

I'm excited to see that sort of thing happening during my lifetime.
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tezunegari wrote:Nerd Questions:
Could the system be used on a working Retina to give a normal person nightvision, augmented vision or telescope view?
At this level of technology, you'd be sacrificing the quality of your normal vision to get blurry, grainy crapvision. There'd be nothing stopping you from attaching a night-sight to your prosthetic visor/goggles. It would work, it could gather a useable signal and send it to the artificial retina just as well as the webcam or whatever you'd normally use to look at the world.

But it would be so not worth it. Then again, in twenty years... no idea. I bet by then it is possible, just ruinously expensive and risky (hello, unnecessary eye surgery, my name is Simon!) compared to wearing goggles.

That's if I understand it correctly.
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Ziggy Stardust wrote:Pretty cool. It seems to me that the biggest actual advance is interfacing the artificial retina with the optic nerves. I mean, we've known for a while what kind of input the nerves get, we are still just not entirely sure what happens at higher levels of neural processing. This handily avoids any of those questions by just figuring out how to give the nerves the kind of input they are used to getting.

The next large conceptual leap for this line of research is to figure out what happens at higher levels of the visual pathway, which is a much stickier question to answer.
Part of the reason is that we can not currently explain how nerves work under current theories of physics, e.g., general relativity, quantum mechanics. If we could, it would be theoretically possible with our current scientific knowledge to build artificial nerves. We do not even know if what we know about general relativity or quantum mechanics is sufficient to explain how nerves (let alone brains) operate, or if new physical principles are needed.

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amigocabal wrote:
Ziggy Stardust wrote:Pretty cool. It seems to me that the biggest actual advance is interfacing the artificial retina with the optic nerves. I mean, we've known for a while what kind of input the nerves get, we are still just not entirely sure what happens at higher levels of neural processing. This handily avoids any of those questions by just figuring out how to give the nerves the kind of input they are used to getting.

The next large conceptual leap for this line of research is to figure out what happens at higher levels of the visual pathway, which is a much stickier question to answer.
Part of the reason is that we can not currently explain how nerves work under current theories of physics, e.g., general relativity, quantum mechanics. If we could, it would be theoretically possible with our current scientific knowledge to build artificial nerves. We do not even know if what we know about general relativity or quantum mechanics is sufficient to explain how nerves (let alone brains) operate, or if new physical principles are needed.

The nervous system is truly one of the biggest mysteries of the Universe, along with black holes.
Care to provide a link for this claim? I was under the impression that nerves work by carrying electrical signals to various parts of the brain. Growing and reconnecting nerves is more the issue and even then we're getting closer to being able to install a patch cable to fix broken nerves.
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Okay, short and simple version of how nerves work: They use chemical signals AND electricity. The chemical signal is for communication between nerves, the electricity is for along the nerve cell. That's why nerve signals travel at "only" 300 mph or so.

At least if I recall correctly. I could easily be wrong.
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Jub wrote:
amigocabal wrote:
Ziggy Stardust wrote:Pretty cool. It seems to me that the biggest actual advance is interfacing the artificial retina with the optic nerves. I mean, we've known for a while what kind of input the nerves get, we are still just not entirely sure what happens at higher levels of neural processing. This handily avoids any of those questions by just figuring out how to give the nerves the kind of input they are used to getting.

The next large conceptual leap for this line of research is to figure out what happens at higher levels of the visual pathway, which is a much stickier question to answer.
Part of the reason is that we can not currently explain how nerves work under current theories of physics, e.g., general relativity, quantum mechanics. If we could, it would be theoretically possible with our current scientific knowledge to build artificial nerves. We do not even know if what we know about general relativity or quantum mechanics is sufficient to explain how nerves (let alone brains) operate, or if new physical principles are needed.

The nervous system is truly one of the biggest mysteries of the Universe, along with black holes.
Care to provide a link for this claim? I was under the impression that nerves work by carrying electrical signals to various parts of the brain. Growing and reconnecting nerves is more the issue and even then we're getting closer to being able to install a patch cable to fix broken nerves.
If the principles were understood, would it not have been possible to install patch cables back in the 1960's?
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Ziggy Stardust wrote:
tezunegari wrote: Could the system be used on a working Retina to give a normal person nightvision, augmented vision or telescope view?
Without directly manipulating the neural network of the optical pathways itself, there are certain limits. Rudimentary night vision could be achieved with an artificial tapetum lucidum, which would increase the amount of light collected by the photorecepting nerves. However, without a neural adjustment of some sort, the images would appear blurry (due to interference from reflected light). This isn't that complicated, really, compared to what they already did with this retina, it all depends on the mechanism of the interaction with the nerves whether it would be practical to add the lucidum. (Another problem is the size of the pupil itself ... the limits on its dilation would be a major problem with night vision. In fact, many soldiers/special ops folks that use night vision extensively take eye drops to artificially dilate their pupils, because otherwise you can't take full advantage of even the artificial goggles).

Augmented vision... not really sure what you mean, exactly, but for the most part there isn't that much you can do to the eye itself to make it better. You could probably rebuild the entire eye itself and optimize the relative size of all its components ... but again, their are strict limits to what you can do without actual brain surgery to augment the higher processing centers.

Telescopic vision, too, would have its limits based on the physical size of the eye itself. With the right types of artificial lenses you could increase our focal abilities to a certain extent, but not to a huge degree. Remember, there's a reason that all good telescopic sights are more than several inches in length ... the physics of refraction and parallax compensation put hard limits on what can be achieved in a space the size of our eye socket.
I've heard there was actually a chance for significant improvements in the human vision simply by improving the lenses of the eye to focus and filter light optimally. The human eye is apparently mostly not perfect. This was in some article I read many years ago about a laser scanning technique that could determine the optimal configuration of your eyes lenses.
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amigocabal wrote:
Jub wrote:
amigocabal wrote: Part of the reason is that we can not currently explain how nerves work under current theories of physics, e.g., general relativity, quantum mechanics. If we could, it would be theoretically possible with our current scientific knowledge to build artificial nerves. We do not even know if what we know about general relativity or quantum mechanics is sufficient to explain how nerves (let alone brains) operate, or if new physical principles are needed.

The nervous system is truly one of the biggest mysteries of the Universe, along with black holes.
Care to provide a link for this claim? I was under the impression that nerves work by carrying electrical signals to various parts of the brain. Growing and reconnecting nerves is more the issue and even then we're getting closer to being able to install a patch cable to fix broken nerves.
If the principles were understood, would it not have been possible to install patch cables back in the 1960's?
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There's some other stuff, like neurotransmitters v. neruomodulators, and a handful of different flavours of neuron, but the fundamental unit of the nervous system is really pretty simple... conceptually, at least. The tricky part is mastering the micro-scale engineering to actually repair the damn things, especially when the body is determined to make things difficult. And don't even think about rebuilding a dendrite or axon terminal - that chemistry is complicated, and not fully understood. But not in the 'brain magic therefore holistic souls' way, more of the 'I wonder what ingredients went into this delicious stir-fry' way.

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His Divine Shadow wrote: I've heard there was actually a chance for significant improvements in the human vision simply by improving the lenses of the eye to focus and filter light optimally. The human eye is apparently mostly not perfect. This was in some article I read many years ago about a laser scanning technique that could determine the optimal configuration of your eyes lenses.
Yes, this is true to a certain extent. The lens of the human eye isn't perfect, and an artificial one does have massive potential for improvement. However (and this is on the top of my head, without pulling out my old anatomy and physiology textbooks), the lens isn't the only element you need to tinker with to improve vision. For example, one of the reasons people are near-sighted or far-sighted has little to do with the lens itself, but the size/shape of the eye relative to the lens, which causes the optimal focal point to shift away from the receptive nerves. Certainly, this too is something that can be fixed with a custom lens, but my point is just that there are a lot of factors involved, and lots of questions that will be raised with an artificial one. And then inevitably you run into the constraint of the nerves themselves ... while it would be possible to give people near perfect "normal" vision, it becomes difficult to drastically improve vision in terms of greater light sensitivity or what have you because the nerves are literally not designed to handle that sort of input.
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Ziggy Stardust wrote:while it would be possible to give people near perfect "normal" vision, it becomes difficult to drastically improve vision in terms of greater light sensitivity or what have you because the nerves are literally not designed to handle that sort of input.
Actually, some friend of mine had laser surgery to correct his eyes, and wound up with a vision of 20/10 - or thereabout, he basically could read the fine print at the bottom of the chart, and see stuff at distances where I (20/20) could barely make out a shape.

According to the doctor, this was an usual occurrence with this procedure. You could improve any sight to 'above the scale' levels.
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I'd see the primary use of such a technique at this time as a way to make perfect contact lenses myself. I'd buy some if they where available. I'd have a use for eagle eyes.
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LaCroix wrote:Actually, some friend of mine had laser surgery to correct his eyes, and wound up with a vision of 20/10 - or thereabout, he basically could read the fine print at the bottom of the chart, and see stuff at distances where I (20/20) could barely make out a shape.

According to the doctor, this was an usual occurrence with this procedure. You could improve any sight to 'above the scale' levels.
That is an unusual result of laser surgery. It indicates to me that his vision problems were entirely a result of firmness or abnormality in the corneal stroma, as opposed to a problem with the lens, pupil, or anything else. Likely, his stroma was too thick or warped, which was distorting the light before it even reached the lens.

In any case, 20/10 isn't exactly "above the scale". Technically, 20/20 vision is considered average adult acuity according to the Snellen test ... the idea that it represents the upper-end of performance is a myth. In reality, an average adult human eye's maximum acuity will be somewhere between 20/16 and 20/12.
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It does represent an average, though.
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