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Where the Hell is PETA now?

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I saw the story about the Zoo in Baghdad on the TV last night. It was pretty sad. So, where the hell is PETA? These guys are against Zoo's but if they believe in being kind to animals so much, why are they not flying out there in a chartered jet to bring food to the animals?

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People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. They are idiots. They subsist on attention. Ignore them, and they will go away to go hug a tree somewhere.
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damn, this sucks majorly. and only 270 a day for the animals! wheres the funding when you need it..
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Ooooh....I though you said WHAT the hell is PETA. :oops:
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Damn it. If they really cared they would help animals like these. Bastards.
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UltraViolence83 wrote:Ooooh....I though you said WHAT the hell is PETA. :oops:
Thats okay, I didnt notice you were giving me a definition. I thought you were being rhetorical. :wink:
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I`ve just read the story i think the missing animals may have ended-up in Iraqis dinner plate. :(
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It's easier to throw paint on a woman's fur coat than it is to actually help anyone or anything.
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Montcalm wrote:I`ve just read the story i think the missing animals may have ended-up in Iraqis dinner plate. :(
Some soldiers and Iraqi citizens have been trying to help. One of the wolves died and they butchered it for the lions, same with some pigs that were there.
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neoolong wrote:Damn it. If they really cared they would help animals like these. Bastards.
They're probably too busy doing crap like convincing the Green Bay Packers to change their names and funneling money to eco-terrorists like the ALF.
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Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:
neoolong wrote:Damn it. If they really cared they would help animals like these. Bastards.
They're probably too busy doing crap like convincing the Green Bay Packers to change their names and funneling money to eco-terrorists like the ALF.
Also remember that among the members of this organization are such people as Paul McCartney, who refuses to sit on a leather couch but has nothing against using soap made out of animal fat.
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Darth Wong wrote:It's easier to throw paint on a woman's fur coat than it is to actually help anyone or anything.
Agreed. Why do anything useful when they can rely on sensationalist tactics to gain publicity?
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Yup. At least they're getting something now.


Kuwait Ships Aid to Feed Iraq Zoo Animals
PATRICK McDOWELL, Associated Press Writer wrote:KUWAIT CITY - As the war in Iraq (news - web sites) winds down, attention is turning to one group of forgotten victims: the animals at Baghdad's zoo.

Weakened before the war by lack of food and medicine blamed on years of U.N. sanctions, the animals' lives were endangered during the conflict by the placement of an Iraqi gun battery on the zoo's grounds, opening it to destruction by U.S. military attack.


The zookeepers fled, leaving the lions, bears, monkeys, camels and other charges without food and water. Since Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s regime was toppled, the zoo has been looted. U.S. troops have been feeding some animals from their rations.


Moved by their plight, Kuwait shipped seven tons of frozen meat, fruit, vegetables and feed by truck to Iraq on Friday in an effort to save animals that haven't yet died or escaped from their cages to roam the streets of Baghdad.


"This represents two to four weeks of food for the Baghdad zoo," said Jim Fikes, an Army reservist who put together the shipment with the Humanitarian Organizing Committee in Kuwait City, which handles connections between charities and the U.S. military.


"It comes from a request that I got through the military chain," Fikes said. "My understanding is that there's a serious shortage of food. It was considered urgent."


When zookeepers fled, animals were left inside cages with no food or water. Looters stole birds and non-threatening mammals and opened the monkey cages, setting them free to roam the city.


U.S. forces in Baghdad have described coming across the forgotten animals — including weakened lions stumbling throughout the compound. They fed some of them crackers, noodles and meat from their ration packs.


The troops slaughtered pigs penned at the zoo site and butchered a dead wolf to feed the lions and tigers. But it couldn't go far — a lion consumes 18 pounds a day.


Running water has not been restored to the zoo, and soldiers and Iraqis have trucked it in to the animals.


Consulting zookeepers in Kuwait about the animals' dietary needs, Fikes and the Kuwaiti government rounded up sacks of apples, carrots, potatoes, lettuce, grain, bales of hay and crates of frozen, boneless meat for shipment to Baghdad.


A single truck, with a sign stating that the shipment was a gift from Kuwait to the people of Iraq, left Kuwait City on Friday morning and was to pick up a military convoy at the border for the daylong drive to the Iraqi capital. A U.S. military veterinarian will accompany it.


Non-governmental organizations are inquiring about helping, Fikes said, but Baghdad is not yet secure enough for them.


For now, the Kuwaiti shipment will be enough. Fikes expressed hope that as Baghdad's markets reopen, fruit and vegetables can be purchased within the city to keep the non-carnivores alive.


The creatures were vulnerable before the war. Sanctions imposed in 1991 after the Gulf War (news - web sites) made specialized food and medicines difficult to import. The worthless Iraqi currency meant entry fees could not cover operating costs.


Iraq's invasion of southern neighbor Kuwait triggered the war 12 years ago. Kuwait allowed U.S. and British troops to stage their recent invasion from its soil.


The Kuwaiti government has been at pains to let Iraqis know the war was not against them, but against Saddam. Kuwait has been at the forefront of aid shipments into Iraq, more willing to risk danger zones than many international organizations.


"It's very important that this food gets up there," said Abdullah Onlanzi, the Kuwaiti coordinator for the shipment. "We see this as being for Iraqi kids. Zoos are mainly for kids. In a way, we're helping them as much as the animals."
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I`ve just read the story i think the missing animals may have ended-up in Iraqis dinner plate.
I think it would be slightly more important for the PEOPLE living in Iraq ro get decent meal then for the fucking animals to get one. If the people in Baghdad haven't eaten properly in months, I'd say butcher the whole fucking zoo. The animals are only contributing to peoples enjoyment not helping to keep an endangered species alive, like bengal tigers. Animals in cages don't create more little animals running around in the wild.

So while it sucks that these animals are starving, I think it's a bit more important that the PEOPLE who are starving get food, even if it means slaughtering pigs and whatnot from that zoo.
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Are all the animals even fit for human consumption?
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As far as I know, anything with non-poisonous muscle is perfectly fit to be eaten by humans. There might be an issue with how tough the muscle is, or something.
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You just have to marinated it longer.. :lol:
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[quote="kojikun"]So while it sucks that these animals are starving, I think it's a bit more important that the PEOPLE who are starving get food, even if it means slaughtering pigs and whatnot from that zoo.[/quote

Depends on how much the food is needed. If people really are starving and there isn't much aid for them, then sure, feed the people. If the people are merely getting less food than they would like, why not invest in the future a little and keep the zoo going for kids and families to enjoy while the country gets back on its feet?
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Where is PETA, you ask?

They're sitting at home, washing their tights!
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