Why isn't there an Office of Men's Health?

[Cthulhu-chan]

Beware, random hyphens abound...

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I'm especially fond of the fact that while a good deal more women attempt suicide, FAR more men actually get it right. Yay, us.

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[Tim Allen] Aroo..!? [/Tim Allen]

That is about the stupidest load of crock I've ever seen.. Don't quote me ont hat, cos it's not true. but still.. men die younger because they're stupid!? Oh, please...

[NecronLord]

Men die younger because testosterone does cumulative damage.

They also get more genetic diseases due to only having one X chromosone. Hence having only one copy of certain codes. Hence recessive mutations such as haemophilia show far more often in men (women need to be homozygous, men simply need to have the gene). (incidentally this is the reason there is a larger variance in male intelligence than female. There are more male geniuses. Annoyingly there are also more male morons. (ever wondered why women trolls are rarer?) That's not unjustified sexism BTW, it's statistics.)

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Anyway...

[Cthulhu-chan]

Sorry, Necron, but I cry bullshit on that last claim. Please provide sources.

[Hethrir]

Men die younger because of the extra stress women put us through. Perhaps it's for the best...

[His Divine Shadow]

Sorry, Necron, but I cry bullshit on that last claim. Please provide sources.

What claim? Less women trolls?

[NecronLord]

I assume he doubts that there are a large number X-linked conditions.

It's easiest explained like this. Imagine someone had a recessive X-linked genetic disorder affecting the brain represented by a lower case X; In the case of a Woman, it would be:

Xx thus the x, being recessive is not affected.

whereas in the case of a man it is

xY. thus the x is noticeable.

A list of a few X linked genetic codes

[Darth Wong]

There's already an office of men's health. It's called the fucking AMA.

The medical establishment is GROSSLY biased towards men's health issues. Insurance companies pay for treatment of male sexual dysfunction, while the most prescribed and recommended treatment for many female disorders is SURGICAL REMOVAL OF THE ENTIRE FUCKING UTERUS.

Can you imagine if you were having health problems and the doctors immediately suggested that you cut your fucking nuts and dick off? Historically, medicine has been created by men, for men, and it is only now changing, albeit slowly. Most hysterectomies have been admitted by the medical establishment to be unnecessary! Can you IMAGINE if tens of thousands of MEN every year had their nuts and dick cut off in what turned out to be UNNECESSARY surgery? There would be blood in the streets!

I'm so fucking sick and tired of men whining about our lot in life. It's ridiculous; we hold the power, the authority, the money, and the prestige. It is good to be a man in society; we are advantaged in countless ways. I can't believe there are whiner men out there who try to act as though it's somehow a tragic misfortune to be born a man in today's society.

[Lagmonster]

I'm wondering if this whiner is the same 'NiceGuy' who posts here to tell us that AIDS and SARS aren't caused by a virus.

[InnerBrat]

A lot of my job as women's officer this year has been to explain to people why we don't have a men's officer.

In fact ULU (University of London Union:- UL is a collegiate university, of which UCL is a college) has just appointed a men's officer, - a position suggested by the same Imperial College jerk who wanted a Home Students officer and a Straight Students Officer.
Some unis have tried to run men's groups, but all they've been able to do is talk about testicular cancer and organise stripper nights.

OK, on to the health issue - it seems to me that the male genital system works a lot better and a lot cleaner that that second rate piece of plumbing we're carrying around - at least, the acidic mess at the end of it which just keeps getting infected. (bloody men carry around Candida, but do they ever get thrush?)

X-linked diseases are also not exclusively male, just ar far more common in males (on account of a woman having to have a father who suffers).

Men die earlier, because that's the way they were designed. In a HG society, an old man, is quite frankly useless, while the menopause secures better health for old women, who help raise children.

[BoredShirtless]

Men die earlier, because that's the way they were designed. In a HG society, an old man, is quite frankly useless, while the menopause secures better health for old women, who help raise children.

You're assuming old men can't help raise children too? Based on what?

[LadyTevar]

There's already an office of men's health. It's called the fucking AMA.

The medical establishment is GROSSLY biased towards men's health issues. Insurance companies pay for treatment of male sexual dysfunction, while the most prescribed and recommended treatment for many female disorders is SURGICAL REMOVAL OF THE ENTIRE FUCKING UTERUS.
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I'm so fucking sick and tired of men whining about our lot in life. It's ridiculous; we hold the power, the authority, the money, and the prestige. It is good to be a man in society; we are advantaged in countless ways. I can't believe there are whiner men out there who try to act as though it's somehow a tragic misfortune to be born a man in today's society.

Wong? I love you.

[InnerBrat]

Men die earlier, because that's the way they were designed. In a HG society, an old man, is quite frankly useless, while the menopause secures better health for old women, who help raise children.

You're assuming old men can't help raise children too? Based on what?

Based on the difference in male/female gender roles in HG societies.
Besides, I'm not the one who decided to give women the menopause but to let men fizzle out.

(LadyT, I love him too - and you've got the red cross of doom in your sig, BTW)

[BoredShirtless]

Men die earlier, because that's the way they were designed. In a HG society, an old man, is quite frankly useless, while the menopause secures better health for old women, who help raise children.

You're assuming old men can't help raise children too? Based on what?

Based on the difference in male/female gender roles in HG societies.

Please define this "difference". Or if this theory isn't your own, please cite a source.

Besides, I'm not the one who decided to give women the menopause but to let men fizzle out.

[LadyTevar]

Men die earlier, because that's the way they were designed. In a HG society, an old man, is quite frankly useless, while the menopause secures better health for old women, who help raise children.

You're assuming old men can't help raise children too? Based on what?

Based on the difference in male/female gender roles in HG societies.
Besides, I'm not the one who decided to give women the menopause but to let men fizzle out.

(LadyT, I love him too - and you've got the red cross of doom in your sig, BTW)

From what I've seen on DISC programs about aging, a menopausal woman in hunter/gatherer or early agricultural societies is a nessecary caregiver. Older women are able to stay behind and care for the children while the men go hunt and the younger healthier women gather food. This frees up human resources to help the tribe as a whole.

(Innerbrat? What red cross? Huh?)

[Admiral Valdemar]

Men exist to impregnate the female with their half of their DNA thus giving rise to genetic diversity and keeping everyone from becoming slack jawed, inbred hicks.

Once a male has done this there is usually little need for him after that, though fathering in many species is done by the male and female, a lot of species have the male simply die off or go and get laid with another girl before he dies.

[NecronLord]

X-linked diseases are also not exclusively male, just ar far more common in males (on account of a woman having to have a father who suffers).

Most women with the genes are carriers. You'd have to have a carrier mother and a carrier father. I did say that...

Men die earlier, because that's the way they were designed.

*loads the shotgun*

[InnerBrat]

X-linked diseases are also not exclusively male, just ar far more common in males (on account of a woman having to have a father who suffers).

Most women with the genes are carriers. You'd have to have a carrier mother and a carrier father. I did say that...[/quote[
And I didn't notice. Sorry.

Men die earlier, because that's the way they were designed.

*loads the shotgun*

*stands firm*
Seriously - the menopause lengthens women's lives. Men don't have a menopause (no they don't!), and just fizzle out.

[Lagmonster]

Men die earlier, because that's the way they were designed.

*loads the shotgun*

Unfortunately, she's right. Fortunately, medical science, nutrition, etc., can help you live to the point where you don't care anymore.

[Wicked Pilot]

Why isn't there an Office of Men's Health?

Because women have more complicated plumbing than men.

[NecronLord]

*stands firm*
Seriously - the menopause lengthens women's lives. Men don't have a menopause (no they don't!), and just fizzle out.

Men aren't designed, Women aren't designed, rats aren't designed. fish aren't designed, wolves aren't designed.

No animals are designed.

*cocks shotgun*

Unless you believe in 'intelligent design.'

[Cthulhu-chan]

I'm appalled. Did anyone even read the article? If any of you have, why are you brushing off these issues like they are of no concern? Why is it you can't watch television for even half an hour without tripping over a comercial or public service announcement regarding female health issues, but the only places I've seen any effort made to educate men on their specific health issues was highschool health class and boot camp? The health class is really stretching it, too.


Oh, Necron, I waas referring to the statistical spread of intelligence in male and female groups. I understand the genetic aspect you've stated, and I agree. So, what's being done about it? Anything?


Oh, and Innerbrat? Men most certainly DO go through menopause, or more apropriately andropause. And in case you don't bother reading, the symtoms are pretty much the same.

[Darth Servo]

I'm especially fond of the fact that while a good deal more women attempt suicide, FAR more men actually get it right. Yay, us.

From what I've heard thats because women tend to try and O-D on sleeping pills or some other drug while men tend to off themselves with a bullet through the head. The man's way is much more reliable.

[Darksider]

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I had to click on the home page............. that'll teach me a lesson

Damn and i though i was bitter about not having a girlfreind

[Cthulhu-chan]

I'm especially fond of the fact that while a good deal more women attempt suicide, FAR more men actually get it right. Yay, us.

From what I've heard thats because women tend to try and O-D on sleeping pills or some other drug while men tend to off themselves with a bullet through the head. The man's way is much more reliable.

That's because when women attempt suicide, it's often a cry for help or attention. When men attempt suicide, they often succeed because they actually want to die.

edit:

Darksider, the punchline of the joke is that he has had several girlfriends. It's just that all the american girls turned out to be insane. So, he moved to Japan and so far, everything's cool.