Christian "our religion is best and all others are fake

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-06-04 04:21am

I could swear there are verses in the Bible saying pretty much "Christianity is the only true religion, and all others are from SATAN!!!!" Anyone happen to know what these verses are, and what exactly they say?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-06-04 04:51am

"Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"

That's really all I can think of.

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-06-04 05:00am

NO, there was a specific verse somewhere... Ah well, I'll just go ask my Christian grandparents, they have the damn thing memorized...

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-06-04 08:34am

There was a conversation between Jesus and Satan where Jesus was tempting Satan to turn evil... er, I mean Satan tempting Jesus

Saint Matthew wrote: 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

In Malachi:

Malachi wrote: 12:30 He that is not with me [Jesus] is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2003-06-04 09:07am

Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:I could swear there are verses in the Bible saying pretty much "Christianity is the only true religion, and all others are from SATAN!!!!" Anyone happen to know what these verses are, and what exactly they say?

It's a common trait in religions "of the Book"(i.e.Judaism, Christianity, Islam, that is , the most obnoxious religions). It's also a very popular propaganda method used worldwide.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-06-04 09:20am

Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:I could swear there are verses in the Bible saying pretty much "Christianity is the only true religion, and all others are from SATAN!!!!" Anyone happen to know what these verses are, and what exactly they say?

Um ... no shit, Sherlock.

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-06-04 01:15pm

Durandal wrote:
Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:I could swear there are verses in the Bible saying pretty much "Christianity is the only true religion, and all others are from SATAN!!!!" Anyone happen to know what these verses are, and what exactly they say?
Um ... no shit, Sherlock.

That really doesnt answer the question....

. If you have nothing to contribute, DONT.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-04 01:48pm

Gandalf wrote:"Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"

That's really all I can think of.

Actually doesn't that just imply that there are other gods, but God's jealous so don't worship any other one except me?

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-06-04 01:53pm

neoolong wrote:
Gandalf wrote:"Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"

That's really all I can think of.
Actually doesn't that just imply that there are other gods, but God's jealous so don't worship any other one except me?

Sounds like that to me. If (G)od were the one-and-only god, it would be impossible to place another God before him, and his comment would serve no purpose.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-06-04 02:01pm

Zoink wrote:
neoolong wrote:
Gandalf wrote:"Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"

That's really all I can think of.
Actually doesn't that just imply that there are other gods, but God's jealous so don't worship any other one except me?

Sounds like that to me. If (G)od were the one-and-only god, it would be impossible to place another God before him, and his comment would serve no purpose.

Actually there have been some scholars that wrote about finding pagan idols in excavations of Jewish ruins and there is a theory out there that states that the Ancient Jews weren't as rabidly monothesitic as the bible would like you to believe (WHAT? The Bible was inaccurate about something?) The Commandement if read literraly actually says that God should come first among the gods. No other gods BEFORE me. So the ancient Jews actually had some idol worship going on in their past but Yaweh was always top God. In fact there is even an older theory that there were once two top gods in Jewish culture - one a god of war and the other a female god Yaweh. The God of war is sort of the fire and brimstone God we see in the OT but sometime before the writing of the Torah the two gods became one. This happens fairlly frequently throughout religious history particularly prehistory religious cultures.

Look no further than the Virgin Mary who ascended to take the place of the Goddess in the pagan religions of the people conquered by the Christian Romans. Catholicsim was wickedly adept at adapting the religion to incorporate the traditions of other religions. They can be considered the Borg of religious faiths.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-06-04 02:19pm

Well, alot of the verses in the bible don't actually rule out other gods existing, just that you shouldn't worship them in front of yhwh, and i've heard one theory based on mentions of "asherah" supposedly yhwh's wife.

Asherah's pole was placed next to whatever they preyed to yhwh through at the time, and a part of the bible says to move it.

I've heard another thing where there are different gods, yhwh is one, elo is another...and there's another one later on, and then of course, jesus.

Plus the trinity is a pantheon anyway, just like the hindu one (incidentally, jesus is also in that pantheon as a designated route to god).

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-06-04 04:18pm

Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:That really doesnt answer the question.... . If you have nothing to contribute, DONT.

Don't whine to me about not contributing. This thread reeks of ass-kissing to the popular atheist segment here. Why don't you try www.skepticsannotatedbible.com?

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-06-04 04:44pm

Durandal wrote:
Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:That really doesnt answer the question.... . If you have nothing to contribute, DONT.
Don't whine to me about not contributing. This thread reeks of ass-kissing to the popular atheist segment here. Why don't you try www.skepticsannotatedbible.com?

Erm, thanks for the link man. It helps.

(and I wouldn't call it WHINING, but you are a mod, so im not gonna press the issue)

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-06-04 04:46pm

It is sad that there are still Christians who refuse to move out of the First Millenium. I only wish for the conserveativeism to end. That is how wars get started.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-06-04 05:21pm

Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:Erm, thanks for the link man. It helps.

(and I wouldn't call it WHINING, but you are a mod, so im not gonna press the issue)

I'm not going to close threads simply because I'm in a pissy mood; you have nothing to fear from me in that regard.

However, I am getting tired of threads like this because they appear to have no purpose beyond trying to gain acceptance with the popular atheist crowd here by bashing Christians. I regard such threads as spam and will be watching this one closely.

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-06-04 05:25pm

I wasnt trying to just bash Christians or anything, just asking for a quote of a Bible verse. I Googled it tho, and found a few sites that have the Bible online. I will use those from now on. You can now um, lock this thread or whatever, cause my question is answered.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-06-04 06:34pm

Durandel, I really have to point this out. You once also accused my of "trying to gain acceptance with the atheist crowd." Durandel, gaining acceptance has nothing to do with anti Christian posts that I have made. If you want to know the truth, I really could not care less about people on this accepting me or not. You don't know my background. I was raised with a fundamentalist preacher father, ok? I was pretty much beaten into submission, ok? Yes, I am an atheist. But before you accuse people of "trying to gain acceptance" maybe you should inquire into their motivations before making baseless assumptions.

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-06-04 06:50pm

I've barely even read this topic, but I'm going to say one thing...

Don't alot of religions say "ours is the best and all the rest are fake"? This argument is kinda' pointless, right? It's not like any of them are ever going to change.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-06-04 06:52pm

I think that one could say that any form of religious fundamentalism says, "ours is best and the rest of you suck."

Not all religions have problems with one another. Last time I was in Japan, for example, I saw a Hindu woman praying in a Buddhist temple. I think most of the monotheistic religions have these types of problems, not all, but mostly...

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-06-04 06:56pm

That's true, not all religions have a problem with other religions which is why I specifically said "don't alot of religions..."

I was covering my ass quite nicely.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-06-04 06:57pm

Gotcha

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-06-04 06:57pm

Hehehe.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-06-04 07:00pm

Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:I could swear there are verses in the Bible saying pretty much "Christianity is the only true religion, and all others are from SATAN!!!!" Anyone happen to know what these verses are, and what exactly they say?

John 3: 16 - 18

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[6] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."
(NIV)

emphasis mine

As far as all other religions being of Satan, I know of no Scripture that supports that.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-06-04 07:04pm

jegs, that's because you are too smart to be a fundie...

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2003-06-04 07:33pm

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I've barely even read this topic, but I'm going to say one thing...

Don't alot of religions say "ours is the best and all the rest are fake"? This argument is kinda' pointless, right? It's not like any of them are ever going to change.

It wasnt an argument. It was a question. Read the first post.

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