Jesus's personal life.

Tosho · Post by **Tosho** » 2003-06-06 07:04am

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-06-06 10:40am

Probably, but not to Mary Magdalene. It would be mentioned in the Gospels.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-06-06 12:18pm

innerbrat wrote:Probably, but not to Mary Magdalene. It would be mentioned in the Gospels.

You're neglecting the editing process. Who knows how much shit was written about Jesus that the people who compiled the Bible didn't want anyone else to see?

Z-Ha-Dum · Post by **Z-Ha-Dum** » 2003-06-06 12:32pm

According to the koran he was.

No christian in the traditional (or fundamentalist) sense would say Jesus was married. From what I know, it would be a contradiction to his nature as God and to his divine plan (or something like that).

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-06-06 01:40pm

Z'Ha'Dum wrote:According to the koran he was.

No christian in the traditional (or fundamentalist) sense would say Jesus was married. From what I know, it would be a contradiction to his nature as God and to his divine plan (or something like that).

Didn't the koran think that the wife of moses or someone was jesus's mother? i heard that somewhere....

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-06-06 02:22pm

Interesting, but I can't say I care one way or the other. That damn "free will" concept again.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-06-06 02:32pm

Z'Ha'Dum wrote:According to the koran he was.

No christian in the traditional (or fundamentalist) sense would say Jesus was married. From what I know, it would be a contradiction to his nature as God and to his divine plan (or something like that).

One thing they don't consider though...

1) According to Christianity, Jesus was perfect.
2) That would mean he obeyed all of God's commandments.
3) Why would that not include the one to "multiply and replenish the Earth"?

Also, when Mary Magdalen visited the tomb after the resurrection...

John 20:1, 15-16 wrote:The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.

Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

I've heard that an alternate translation of "Rabboni/master" is "husband". Anyone more knowledgeable about ancient Greek have any insights?

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-06-06 03:19pm

One of the arguments used to back the "Jesus was Married" theories is the Wedding in Cana (sp, I don't have my Bible at work with me)

This theory states tradition at the time said the groom's family, specifically the parents, would be the ones in charge of a wedding feast. Thus, when the servents come to Mary, they are approaching her as the Mother of the Groom, informing her of the lack of wine. Mary then approaches Jesus about the wine, and he turns water to wine. By this explaination, Jesus is the groom, doing his duty to the guests.

However, this theory doesn't cover the emerging proof(?) that Mary had more than one son... [I'd quote Dogma, but I can't recall the exact quote]. So, perhaps, it was another son's wedding, with Jesus simply attending. Since the Scriptures are not clear whose wedding it is, most Christians just see it as how the preachers preach it: Christ blessing the Sanctuity of Marriage.

Edit: Typos, Typos.. Gah I can't spell!

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-06-06 03:24pm

LadyTevar wrote:So, perhaps, it was another son's wedding, with Jesus simply attending. Since the Scriptures are not clear whose wedding it is, most Christians just see it as how the preachers preach it: Christ blessing the Sanctuity of Marriage.

But, does it matter? To you, personally, as a Christian?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-06 03:28pm

We cannot know for sure.For some reason I tend to view Jesus as a man who was deemed a "social failure" by other people than his followers... and if so, I'm sure that most family patriarchs would never think about letting their daughters marry such a weirdo. (would you let your daughter marry a guy who claimed to be God?) That actually suggests that he might have had a relationship with Mary Magdalene, so I won't exclude the possibility.

Then again, there's not any absolute evidence.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-06-06 04:03pm

innerbrat wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:So, perhaps, it was another son's wedding, with Jesus simply attending. Since the Scriptures are not clear whose wedding it is, most Christians just see it as how the preachers preach it: Christ blessing the Sanctuity of Marriage.
But, does it matter? To you, personally, as a Christian?

Not really.

But I do like the fact that it's a possible explaination for why Mary asked Jesus to do something about the wine. Baptist preachers never liked explaining things like that.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-06 04:06pm

Honestly, to think that a thirty some year old guy never got down, that's just plain gullibility.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-06-06 04:14pm

neoolong wrote:Honestly, to think that a thirty some year old guy never got down, that's just plain gullibility.

It appears as gullibility to you because you have a relaxed attitide about sex. Those people 2000 years ago saw it from a very different perspective.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-06 04:21pm

Darth Servo wrote:
neoolong wrote:Honestly, to think that a thirty some year old guy never got down, that's just plain gullibility.
It appears as gullibility to you because you have a relaxed attitide about sex. Those people 2000 years ago saw it from a very different perspective.

I take it you never saw Dogma?

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-06-06 04:23pm

innerbrat wrote:Probably, but not to Mary Magdalene. It would be mentioned in the Gospels.

They never bothered to mention Rufus, did they?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-06-06 04:58pm

Drooling Iguana wrote:
innerbrat wrote:Probably, but not to Mary Magdalene. It would be mentioned in the Gospels.
They never bothered to mention Rufus, did they?

Rufus' comment always makes me wonder... ten bucks is equal to how many sheckels?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-06-06 06:23pm

I think the Gospel of the Holy Hand mentioned Jesus' spiffy wanking techniques.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-06 06:25pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:
innerbrat wrote:Probably, but not to Mary Magdalene. It would be mentioned in the Gospels.
They never bothered to mention Rufus, did they?
Rufus' comment always makes me wonder... ten bucks is equal to how many sheckels?

44.0970 sheckels. Well Israeli New Sheckels.

Tom_Aurum · Post by **Tom_Aurum** » 2003-06-06 06:45pm

He also had a real job. And insisted that other preists get real jobs too, instead of making a living off of being a preist. Wonder how many christians follow that bit of advice?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-06-06 06:49pm

Jesus built houses and probably crosses too. And it would indeed be nice to see a preacher with an actual job.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-06-06 07:06pm

Tosho wrote:Was Jesus Married?

I don't believe so.

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2003-06-06 10:52pm

Darth Servo wrote:'ve heard that an alternate translation of "Rabboni/master" is "husband". Anyone more knowledgeable about ancient Greek have any insights?

4462: Rhabbouni: Lord, Rhabbi, corresp. 4461

4461: Rhabbi: My Master i.e. Rabbi as an official title of honour - Master Rabbi.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-06-07 02:19am

Five words:
The Last Temptation of Christ

If anything you've made Jesse Helms cry. And it isn't a bad movie.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-06-07 02:21am

SyntaxVorlon wrote:Five words:
The Last Temptation of Christ

If anything you've made Jesse Helms cry. And it isn't a bad movie.

Why was there so much outrage over The Last Temptation Of Christ?? I can understand why people might have been offended by "The Life Of Brian", but what was "offensive" about The Last Temptation Of Christ, other than Jesus having sex with Mary Magdalene?

lgot · Post by **lgot** » 2003-06-08 12:20am

uh ?
Jesus openly questions God about him and his mission in Last Temptation. A Divine Jesus would never do such thing, that is why.

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