terraforming

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-07-17 06:17am

how would you go about terraforming the moon?

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-07-17 06:23am

I wouldn't, it can't hold an atmosphere, so forget it.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-07-17 07:16am

Warspite wrote:I wouldn't, it can't hold an atmosphere, so forget it.

Spending the resources on Mars might work, though I'm not sure how well that planet would hold a thicker atmosphere either. Spending the money on a few billion bullets and using them to knock the Earths population back to something more sustainable is a far more practical solution anyway.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-07-17 09:59am

Sea Skimmer wrote:Spending the money on a few billion bullets and using them to knock the Earths population back to something more sustainable is a far more practical solution anyway.

One billion people on this planet is more than enough,if they regulate the animal populations on earth,it would be normal to do the same with humans.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-07-17 12:01pm

Why does everyone forget Venus?!?

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-07-17 12:11pm

Vorlon1701 wrote:Why does everyone forget Venus?!?

It's shit hot... Before you reach the ground, you have to take care of all that cloud cover.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-07-17 12:12pm

Vorlon1701 wrote:Why does everyone forget Venus?!?

Maybe because the Venusian atmosphere has quite a few too many clouds of sulphuric acid. Atmospheric pressure at the surface is equal to 90 atmospheres (1320 psi). The surface temperature can be as high as 740 degres Kelvin. Also Venus has no magnetic field due to it's slow rotation.

so if somehow you find a way to not be crushed, melted and cooked, you wouldn't be able to find your way around.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-07-17 12:16pm

Vorlon1701 wrote:Why does everyone forget Venus?!?

There once was a man from Venus,he had a............fill in the blanc.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-07-17 12:22pm

It sometimes occours to me that we'll be able to build Ringworlds before we can effectively terraform Mars or Venus. The two worlds might be close, but that doesn't make them inhabitable. Or maybe we'll just become migratory...

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-07-17 12:31pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Vorlon1701 wrote:Why does everyone forget Venus?!?
Maybe because the Venusian atmosphere has quite a few too many clouds of sulphuric acid. Atmospheric pressure at the surface is equal to 90 atmospheres (1320 psi). The surface temperature can be as high as 740 degres Kelvin. Also Venus has no magnetic field due to it's slow rotation.

so if somehow you find a way to not be crushed, melted and cooked, you wouldn't be able to find your way around.

I've heard ideas about terraforming venus, most have to do with removing the heat from its surface using large mirrors, etc.
Or dumping in chemicals to solidify the sulfuric and and greenhouse atmospheric gasses.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-07-17 12:59pm

SyntaxVorlon wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:
Vorlon1701 wrote:Why does everyone forget Venus?!?
Maybe because the Venusian atmosphere has quite a few too many clouds of sulphuric acid. Atmospheric pressure at the surface is equal to 90 atmospheres (1320 psi). The surface temperature can be as high as 740 degres Kelvin. Also Venus has no magnetic field due to it's slow rotation.

so if somehow you find a way to not be crushed, melted and cooked, you wouldn't be able to find your way around.
I've heard ideas about terraforming venus, most have to do with removing the heat from its surface using large mirrors, etc.
Or dumping in chemicals to solidify the sulfuric and and greenhouse atmospheric gasses.

the weight of the atmosphere would still crush soda cans and glass, oh yeah and human beings too.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-07-17 06:02pm

What about smashing a really big rock into it? That might terraform it.

NapoleonGH · Post by **NapoleonGH** » 2003-07-17 06:36pm

see crackpot, if you make the sulferic acid precipitate out of the atmosphere as syntaxvorlon said you wouldnt have that increased atmospheric pressure anymore.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2003-07-17 08:04pm

If I was gonna terraform Venus I'd do what they were planning in the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson. Put a big shade between it and the sun to block off the light. The atmosphere will cool and eventually freeze. Then mine the dry ice and ship it off elsewhere in the system. Then I think they were going to build very large towers on the surface anchored strongly to the crust and use a few shitloads of electromagnets in eccentric orbits to speed up its rotation, so that its day is a couple of weeks long. Then you ship in the new atmosphere, engineer a water cycle, new soil, etc. and open up the shades a bit.

Sure as hell take a long time, but it'd be cool.

As for the moon, I'd just tent a few craters.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-07-17 08:23pm

XaLEv wrote:If I was gonna terraform Venus I'd do what they were planning in the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson. Put a big shade between it and the sun to block off the light. The atmosphere will cool and eventually freeze. Then mine the dry ice and ship it off elsewhere in the system. Then I think they were going to build very large towers on the surface anchored strongly to the crust and use a few shitloads of electromagnets in eccentric orbits to speed up its rotation, so that its day is a couple of weeks long. Then you ship in the new atmosphere, engineer a water cycle, new soil, etc. and open up the shades a bit.

Sure as hell take a long time, but it'd be cool.

As for the moon, I'd just tent a few craters.

Woooot
Moon party tent!

Traceroute · Post by **Traceroute** » 2003-07-17 09:16pm

XaLEv wrote:If I was gonna terraform Venus I'd do what they were planning in the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson. Put a big shade between it and the sun to block off the light. The atmosphere will cool and eventually freeze. Then mine the dry ice and ship it off elsewhere in the system. Then I think they were going to build very large towers on the surface anchored strongly to the crust and use a few shitloads of electromagnets in eccentric orbits to speed up its rotation, so that its day is a couple of weeks long. Then you ship in the new atmosphere, engineer a water cycle, new soil, etc. and open up the shades a bit.

Sure as hell take a long time, but it'd be cool.

As for the moon, I'd just tent a few craters.

Moon colonies are pretty much a necessary step before we can terraform other planets. Testing large-scale habitats would probably start there, or in Earth orbit.

Or we can skip terraforming the planets, and start colonizing comets ... Anyone here read Heart of the Comet by David Brin & Greg Bear? (I think it was Greg Bear, but my books are in crates right now.)

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-07-18 05:22am

I like the rock idea better.

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2003-07-18 06:34am

Enforcer Talen wrote:how would you go about terraforming the moon?

I'd just dig inside it. Eventually we'd have a pretty big complex down there. Dahak, anyone?

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