Racialism and racism

[Peregrin Toker]

Just a question.....

What is the difference between a racialist and an ordinary racist?? To me, it sounds like it's two words for the same.

("Racialist" is a term I've seen used to describe organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Black Muslims)

Or does "racialist" just mean a less extreme racist???

[Stormbringer]

Just a question.....

What is the difference between a racialist and an ordinary racist?? To me, it sounds like it's two words for the same.

("Racialist" is a term I've seen used to describe organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Black Muslims)

Or does "racialist" just mean a less extreme racist???

Racialist is just the sugar coated horse shit the racist use. It's a transparent attempt to avoid the negative conotations that come with using the word racist.

[Nick]

Racialist is just the sugar coated horse shit the racist use. It's a transparent attempt to avoid the negative conotations that come with using the word racist.

It generally goes hand in hand with attempts to misrepresent scientific studies as supporting the racist's position.

[Mr Bean]

If I remeber corretly it mearly means an orginzation that promots the bettermet of a specfic race

Just so happens many of those Orgs promot the bettermet of a race over all others

[salm]

racialist = racist = donkey rapist

[Kelly Antilles]

Explain why anyone would use the term "reverse racism"?

[Stormbringer]

Explain why anyone would use the term "reverse racism"?

Because, thanks to the PC horsehit shovelers, you can't accuse minorities of racism. Even in those cases where it's the absolute truth. So we use that term, which means exactly the same.

[Kelly Antilles]

Because, thanks to the PC horsehit shovelers, you can't accuse minorities of racism. Even in those cases where it's the absolute truth. So we use that term, which means exactly the same.

"reverse racism" makes no sense. If you were to take the direct meaning, it means there is NO racism. I hate when that phrase is kicked out. It annoyed the hell out of me whenever I heard it in the preview for a movie that came out several years ago. I kept asking, "what the fuck is reverse racism? There is no such thing!"

[Stormbringer]

Because, thanks to the PC horsehit shovelers, you can't accuse minorities of racism. Even in those cases where it's the absolute truth. So we use that term, which means exactly the same.

"reverse racism" makes no sense. If you were to take the direct meaning, it means there is NO racism. I hate when that phrase is kicked out. It annoyed the hell out of me whenever I heard it in the preview for a movie that came out several years ago. I kept asking, "what the fuck is reverse racism? There is no such thing!"

Of course it stupid! But so many people use it because they'd get crucified for suggesting a minority group is racist!

[Kelly Antilles]

It offends me so it should be stricken from existance. (Oh wait, Ego day isn't until tomorrow)

Another phrase that bothers me is "It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand."

THAT pisses the fuck out of me. I mean, if I were to walk around with a shirt on that says "it's a woman thing" or "it's a white thing", I'd be strung up right there.

Well, I'm in a mood today... It's a pms thing. You wouldn't understand.

[Stormbringer]

It offends me so it should be stricken from existance. (Oh wait, Ego day isn't until tomorrow)

Another phrase that bothers me is "It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand."

THAT pisses the fuck out of me. I mean, if I were to walk around with a shirt on that says "it's a woman thing" or "it's a white thing", I'd be strung up right there.

Well, I'm in a mood today... It's a pms thing. You wouldn't understand.

Well, there is a big difference in how men and women think. So "It's a women thing" seems perfectly valid to me.

[Darth Wong]

It offends me so it should be stricken from existance. (Oh wait, Ego day isn't until tomorrow)

Every day is ego day, Kelly

Another phrase that bothers me is "It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand."

Black separatism is a very serious problem in the United States. So-called "black community leaders" are doing their damndest to remind black people of why they should consider themselves separate and downtrodden (which is why they need "black leaders" ) and ultimately too oppressed to ever succeed on their own, hence the constant whinging and whining about the "legacy of slavery".

I have sympathy for blacks who were and are genuinely oppressed (only an idiot would deny that racism still exists), but the way to solve it is not to simply whine about it. My parents came here with nothing. We're talking about showing up off the boat with a suitcase of clothes and not much else. They worked their asses off (my father even worked as a farmhand), paid their own way through school, put up with racial abuse, got university degrees and good jobs, and here I am now, having lived a comfortable middle-class life because of their hard work and dedication. Millions of Asians in North America can say the same thing, which is probably why Asians don't suffer the same level of discrimination that blacks do.

Starting with nothing is no excuse for failure, or for shifting one's role models to ridiculous caricatures of professionalism, like athletes and entertainers. Black separatism and victimology is the biggest thing holding back the black race in North America; if you constantly tell people that they are entitled to something because of their history, they won't bother working to get it for themselves. It creates a vicious cycle.

THAT pisses the fuck out of me. I mean, if I were to walk around with a shirt on that says "it's a woman thing" or "it's a white thing", I'd be strung up right there.

Huh? Women say "it's a woman thing" all the time! The phrase "it's a white thing" would get you strung up, but honestly, "it's a woman thing" is no big deal. My own beloved wife rolls her eyes and says "Men!" at some of my antics all the time, but it doesn't bother me.

Well, I'm in a mood today... It's a pms thing. You wouldn't understand.

AAAAAHHHHHHH!!! The Crimson Tide is coming! Run for your lives!!!!!

[Peregrin Toker]

Nick,

It generally goes hand in hand with attempts to misrepresent scientific studies as supporting the racist's position.

It's been a long time since the KKK, an organization often classified as racialist, last used pseudoscience to support their position. Today, their usual arguments for racial segregation are "USA was founded as a segregated nation, and it should have remained so!" and "The bible says so!"

(those Klansmen are a bunch of buffoons, aren't they??)


Mike Wong,

Black separatism is a very serious problem in the United States. So-called "black community leaders" are doing their damndest to remind black people of why they should consider themselves separate and downtrodden (which is why they need "black leaders" ) and ultimately too oppressed to ever succeed on their own, hence the constant whinging and whining about the "legacy of slavery".

I hate changing subject in the middle of a debate, but one thing that I wonder about is why some Islamic sects in USA, such as the Nation of Islam, preach black superiority.

After all, Islam is originally an Arab religion and apparently doesn't place as much importance upon ethnicity as certain other monotheistic religions...

[Iceberg]

Just a question.....

What is the difference between a racialist and an ordinary racist?? To me, it sounds like it's two words for the same.

("Racialist" is a term I've seen used to describe organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Black Muslims)

Or does "racialist" just mean a less extreme racist???

Racialist is an older term. Sometime between the 1940s and 1960s, it was contracted to "racist." That's the only difference.

[Evil Jerk]

I remember one of the WCOTC dickweeds who came over here repeatedly saying how he wasn't a racist, he was a racialist.
He seemed to think the term racialist gave his views some sort of legitimacy. Idiot.

[Newtonian Fury]

Well of course, that's their way of being "politically correct"

[Steve]

Perhaps I should post stuff said by a certain "Baruti M. Kamau" at another web board.....

[Darth Wong]

I remember one of the WCOTC dickweeds who came over here repeatedly saying how he wasn't a racist, he was a racialist.

He seemed to think the term racialist gave his views some sort of legitimacy. Idiot.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet ... and shit by any other name still smells like shit.

[Mr Bean]

Every day is ego day, Kelly

I however in SD.NET tradtion in a fit of sleep deprived Mania that October 15 would be Ego day

Where being a ass is not just recomneded
ITS THE LAW

[Kelly Antilles]

Every day is ego day, Kelly

I however in SD.NET tradtion in a fit of sleep deprived Mania that October 15 would be Ego day

Where being a ass is not just recomneded
ITS THE LAW

I think I made my quota today.

[Raptor 597]

It offends me so it should be stricken from existance. (Oh wait, Ego day isn't until tomorrow)

Another phrase that bothers me is "It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand."

THAT pisses the fuck out of me. I mean, if I were to walk around with a shirt on that says "it's a woman thing" or "it's a white thing", I'd be strung up right there.

Well, I'm in a mood today... It's a pms thing. You wouldn't understand.

It's a woman thing? Arrgh, I'nm gonna stab Dr. Phil and those feminists bitches. *Stabstabstab*

[Kelly Antilles]

It's a woman thing? Arrgh, I'nm gonna stab Dr. Phil and those feminists bitches. *Stabstabstab*

[kojikun]

Yanno, when the subject of racism comes up I always stare complexificated.

Ok, think about this: In America, white people came from Europe which was full of major cities for a few thousand years leading to dumb lazy unskilled people who rely on farmers to provide. Black people come from Africa which hadn't developed many major cities thus forcing people to hunt and grow food by themselves.

Black people come from a background where intelligence and physical ability were of the utmost importance, whereas white people come from a background where only a few actually needed such skills while the rest worked in cities doing nonphysical tasks and usually not doing much thought-based activities (if you worked in a bakery, all you did was sell bread).

By not developing, by staying part of nature, african tribes forced themselves to rely more on themselves, thus preventing the growth of undesired elements. Black people have continued to evolved for some two thousand years after white and oriental people began to stop their own evolution.

By all scientific standards, black people are genetically superior! But I digress. You can be the most superior, and still be a fucking idiot (read: Robert Mugabe)

[Darth Wong]

Actually, all humans continue to evolve. It is a common misconception that we have halted evolution through artificial means. We have merely changed the environmental conditions under which it occurs.

In the world today, evolution in developing nations favours the ruthless, who can take what they need. Evolution in first-world nations is based largely on sexual selection rather than natural selection (both are perfectly valid evolutionary imperatives). And on balance, evolution is favouring developing nations and religious fundamentalists because they are reproducing faster. In other words, the evolutionary process is currently favouring the ignorant (who are not likely to comprehend evolution; oh, the irony!)

[Guest]

It offends me so it should be stricken from existance. (Oh wait, Ego day isn't until tomorrow)

Another phrase that bothers me is "It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand."

THAT pisses the fuck out of me. I mean, if I were to walk around with a shirt on that says "it's a woman thing" or "it's a white thing", I'd be strung up right there.

Well, I'm in a mood today... It's a pms thing. You wouldn't understand.

I find it very annoying that the ppl of Affrican and Jamican oragin can get away with this. Just watch and show like the Cosby Show or The Fresh Prince of Belair. Every episode makes severl anti-white slurs and amazingly society lets them get away with it. Ok maybe the black community arround the world did get mis-treated and that was wrong, but thats no excuse to be runnin arround callimg me a "cracker head white piece of shit" which has happened to me. Ppl don't realise there is only one race on this planet THE HUMAN RACE the sooner ppl realise this the sooner we can explore space, find an alien culture and start a war with them.