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Yes well one has no Rosy outlook when one considers sucided as an AtheistI honestly wouldn't be surprised if the suicide rate is much higher among religious people than atheists, and that is a key determinant of depression.
You ditched Catholicism, not Christianity. The two are so unrelated that they should really be called two separate religions.Durandal wrote:Well, in my case, I'm much happier and secure now that I've ditched Christianity. It only served as a source of fear and guilt and a roadblock to reason. Becoming an atheist was one of the best decisions I've ever made.
No, he ditched both (unless you can look over Durandal's posts and somehow conclude that he still believes in the Christian God).Graeme Dice wrote:You ditched Catholicism, not Christianity. The two are so unrelated that they should really be called two separate religions.
I thank godsalm wrote:well, i used to be a lutheran protestant, at least on the paper ( i got out of church a couple of years ago and had to pay 25 marks).
Dice, I'm going to have to beat you now.Graeme Dice wrote:You ditched Catholicism, not Christianity. The two are so unrelated that they should really be called two separate religions.Durandal wrote:Well, in my case, I'm much happier and secure now that I've ditched Christianity. It only served as a source of fear and guilt and a roadblock to reason. Becoming an atheist was one of the best decisions I've ever made.
No, I really do mean it. Catholicism is polytheistic paganism inside a monotheistic Christian wrapper. It's close to Christianity, but only because the central tenets are the same. Can you really tell me that a saint isn't treated like another god when they can be prayed to and can perform their own miracles?Durandal wrote:It's OK, Iceberg. Dice seems to have this undying need to contradict anything I post dealing with Christianity. I don't think he really means it; it's just a knee-jerk reaction, at this point.
Graeme Dice wrote:No, I really do mean it. Catholicism is polytheistic paganism inside a monotheistic Christian wrapper.
"prayers" to the saints are ALWAYS phrased, "Saint [insert name here], pray for us," not "Saint [insert name here], do this for us." We ask the saints in Heaven to intercede with God on our behalf, not to do God's work for him. Which even a cursory examination would reveal.It's close to Christianity, but only because the central tenets are the same. Can you really tell me that a saint isn't treated like another god when they can be prayed to and can perform their own miracles?
The first part comes directly from the Gospel of Luke, the second part is a request for intercession, not a plea for direct action. Nothing more, nothing less.Hail Mary, Full of Grace
The Lord is with Thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners,
Now and at the hour of our death.
I think that about roughly 99% of the human race, regardless of their religion or lack thereof.What I do think is that you need to get over yourself when it comes to religion.
i think that the point is that catholics are christians but not all cristians are catholics.Shadow WarChief wrote:I have a small question for those who don't think Catholocism is christianity:
Are you saying that in November 27, 1095, there were no christians in Europe?
Just put the date in a goole search and see what you get back...
That's not the issue that GraemeDice brought upsalm wrote:i think that the point is that catholics are christians but not all cristians are catholics.Shadow WarChief wrote:I have a small question for those who don't think Catholocism is christianity:
Are you saying that in November 27, 1095, there were no christians in Europe?
Just put the date in a goole search and see what you get back...
You ditched Catholicism, not Christianity. The two are so unrelated that they should really be called two separate religions.
If it's clinical, then it's 100% chemical and 0% mental. That's the worst thing is when you have every reason to be jumping for joy, and yet are down in the dumps.Also, a lot of depression is based in chemical problem in the body.
So.... God is essentially a high school-college student who was ill-prepared for his class exam?Iceberg wrote:Well, I've become fairly convinced that the Divine Plan is more like a Divine Outline that God threw together about five minutes before the game started some 20 billion years ago, and He's pretty much winging it as He goes along.