Useful URL's

Post by **Rob Wilson** » 2002-07-04 08:26am

Here's a Quick selection of some from my Favourites

http://www.randi.org/
The James Randi site, already mentioned by others

http://www.quackwatch.com/
Exactly what it says on the tin, regular updates on every form of Medical Quackery out there.

http://www.freedomofmind.com/groups/sci ... tology.asp
The truth behind $cientology

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/home.htm
Home of Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide and so, so much more. Lots of good Lateral thinking essays and science explainations.

http://museumofhoaxes.com/
Do I really have to tell you?

http://www.snopes2.com/index.html
Urban Legends and their debunking

http://www.darwinawards.com/
Why Trolls and Creationists will soon inbreed themselves out of existance.

And of Course Mikes Creation Page
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Creationism/index.shtml
From there you can access a wealth of other excellent sites in the same vein.

So what about everyone, got any good Logical thought and science Links?

IDMR · Post by **IDMR** » 2002-07-04 10:56am

Saw this on the pseudoscience thread. Might as well post it here.

http://www.skepdic.com/

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2002-07-04 03:20pm

http://members.aol.com/ckbloomfld/index.html

Nothing bugs a bible junkie like a never ending stream of biblical errors and contradictions. The above link is what I use as reference when a topic turns to "does God exist".

Franc28 · Post by **Franc28** » 2002-07-04 05:09pm

Don't forget the Talk.Origins web site, of course : http://talkorigins.org/
And the Bible Gateway : http://bible.gospelcom.net/
Because the best tool against the Bible is the Bible.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2002-07-04 05:17pm

Keep it in yer pants, pal.

Keep in mind that this is a public forum, and mindless bashing of other people's beliefs is about an order of magnitude stupider than mindless bible thumping. The moral of the story, of course, is DON'T BE STUPID.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2002-07-04 05:21pm

Iceberg, here's a snippet from this board's forum index:

"Science and Logic
Are the snake-oil salesmen, creationists, or fanboy pseudoscientists getting on your nerves? Sound off here!"

You might say that one of the purposes of this forum is to allow users to bash other peoples beliefs.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2002-07-04 05:25pm

Robert Treder wrote:You might say that one of the purposes of this forum is to allow users to bash other peoples beliefs.

In which case, this forum will quite rapidly degenerate into a steaming pile of pure, unadulterated suck, like any other flame board.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2002-07-04 05:26pm

Maybe so.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2002-07-04 05:27pm

No "maybe" about it. Unrestricted flame boards accomplish nothing but sucking loudly.

Post by **Steve** » 2002-07-04 05:27pm

STUPID beliefs though, and those that they try to hold above reason.

So it's okay to make fun of the beliefs of Falwell and Robertson, but not your everyday religious guy like Mark. Doing the latter earns you this:

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Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-07-04 05:29pm

Steve wrote:[snip]

Damn that little guy is appearing a lot.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2002-07-04 05:52pm

I of course recognize that making fun of good people will result in Hadokens, Missile Dokens, and various other destructive assaults, but to be fair, nobody has been making fun of any reasonable people or beliefs...just posting URLs that recognize the non-literal status of the Bible.

Franc28 · Post by **Franc28** » 2002-07-04 06:31pm

What exactly is wrong about bashing other people's beliefs ? If you don't want to be laughed at, then don't have any beliefs in the first place.

But then again I'm an anti-theist so what do I know, right ?

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2002-07-04 06:35pm

Franc28 wrote:What exactly is wrong about bashing other people's beliefs ? If you don't want to be laughed at, then don't have any beliefs in the first place.

"Nihilists? Fuck me! That changes everything. I mean, say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos!"
--Walter, "The Big Lebowski"

Franc28 · Post by **Franc28** » 2002-07-04 06:36pm

I'm not a nihilist, I'm an Objectivist. But that's irrelevant to the point.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2002-07-04 06:36pm

"Nihilists? Fuck me! That changes everything. I mean, say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos!"
--Walter, "The Big Lebowski"

hehehe...ahhh, I love that movie.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-07-04 07:27pm

What exactly is wrong about bashing other people's beliefs ? If you don't want to be laughed at, then don't have any beliefs in the first place.

This, of course, would be YOUR belief.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-07-04 07:34pm

SPOOFE wrote:
What exactly is wrong about bashing other people's beliefs ? If you don't want to be laughed at, then don't have any beliefs in the first place.
This, of course, would be YOUR belief.

BASH IT!

Franc28 · Post by **Franc28** » 2002-07-04 08:06pm

Don't play with words. It is not a belief, it is a true proposition based on epistemology. A belief is an unproven assertion.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2002-07-04 08:21pm

Franc28 wrote:Don't play with words. It is not a belief, it is a true proposition based on epistemology. A belief is an unproven assertion.

Well, since Objectivism falls somewhere close to Scientology for unprovable assertions ("Virtue of selfishness" anybody?), you're one to talk...

Franc28 · Post by **Franc28** » 2002-07-04 08:24pm

Is this a conversation about beliefs or about Objectivism ? Don't change the subject.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2002-07-04 08:24pm

I got a better and more fun idea...

BURN IT ALL! MAKE IT ALL BURN!

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2002-07-04 08:55pm

Franc28 wrote:Is this a conversation about beliefs or about Objectivism ? Don't change the subject.

Man, I could print this out and frame it. This, ladies and gentlemen, is why it pays to remove one's head from one's own ass at least once a day.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2002-07-04 08:57pm

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.html

One of my personal favorites.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2002-07-04 09:02pm

How did I just KNOW somebody was going to bring that up sooner or later.

Look, let's just say that the SAB's author uses some extremely questionable exegesis and leave it at that.