The march on Washington...

Nova Andromeda · Post by **Nova Andromeda** » 2002-10-23 12:33am

--This thread is to discuss the Nov. 2 atheist march on Washingtong D.C. Who will be going, is it a good idea, what are the possible gains and pit falls, etc.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-23 12:50am

I don't care.

Like these "marches" even do anything these days.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-23 12:54am

By marching for atheism we are being reduced to the level of the fundies who march against evolution.

Archaic` · Post by **Archaic`** » 2002-10-23 02:31am

With a Fundi like Bush in the White House, just what do you expect to achieve from this anyway?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-23 07:46am

Bush is a Fundie? News to me, Why are all the Fundies Bashing him if hes a fellow Fundy?(Democrats I was under the understanding where backed by the Fundies like Falwell and Jessy Gram)

Archaic` · Post by **Archaic`** » 2002-10-23 08:11am

...you mean he's not?

I suppose I stand corrected, but that's how it's always seemed to me from here down under.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-10-23 09:10am

By european standards he's a fundie one could say, or he gives that impression, america is much much more religious than europe.

Nova Andromeda · Post by **Nova Andromeda** » 2002-10-23 11:30am

--The point of this march can be found at http://godlessamericans.org/statement.shtml
--I think they are legitimate goals, however, I also think the major benefit will be to organize atheists. The major stubbling block to equality for athiests is a lack of organization.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2002-10-23 04:46pm

Bush is MOST definetly a fundie, scares the hell out of me when I think about christians who feel they`re living out the end time and have a nice, big, shiny red button! And as regards the march, I understand Mrs. Betty Bowers, America`s finest christian, will be speaking. Wish I could be there.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-10-23 06:34pm

It depends on what your meaning of "fundie" is (/Clinton). IF Bush is a fundie, he's nowhere near as bad as bigots like Fawlell. I don't think this march will do much. If Atheists want ot make prgress, they should do something that makes Americans think positively of them.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2002-10-23 07:20pm

Frank Hipper wrote:Bush is MOST definetly a fundie, scares the hell out of me when I think about christians who feel they`re living out the end time and have a nice, big, shiny red button! And as regards the march, I understand Mrs. Betty Bowers, America`s finest christian, will be speaking. Wish I could be there.

Bush is most definitely NOT a fundie. He's a moderate Christian by American standards.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-10-23 07:21pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:By european standards he's a fundie one could say, or he gives that impression, america is much much more religious than europe.

Yes, though we don't kill each other over it as much Europe.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-23 07:41pm

I don't give a shit.

Of coures, I hope it doesn't go too far. I remember when one guy around he was circulating a petition that demanded the US Army stop hiring chaplains for their Christian members.

Nova Andromeda · Post by **Nova Andromeda** » 2002-10-23 08:19pm

--One of the major problems in the U.S. is that most people just write off legitimate atheist complaints because there is no discussion on the subject in the public arena. Instead we just have the religious right spitting lies left and right unchallenged. Things like this march will at least put the atheist arguements on the map (assumming it is done correctly). The risk is that religion and anti atheist sentiment is too deep and most will not look at the arguement in an objective and logical fashion. This could lead to a backlash against atheists. Nevertheless, I have seen no real arguements on this thread yet. I only see unfounded statements.
--The lack of interest truly amazes me. When are people going to get a *@!&ing clue. The writing is on the GODDAMN wall. INACTION WILL SEAL OUR FATE!!!

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-23 08:31pm

Um, why would I give a shit about an atheist march? I'm not atheist.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2002-10-24 03:50am

Um, why would I give a shit about an atheist march? I'm not atheist.

Well good for you then. But I don't think he was actually talking to you specifically.

I personally think this march is needed. Even though it may not officially accomplish much, it will at least make the general public and government aware that thier IS in fact a challenge to the common religious infections which have been slowly spreading for the past few decades and especially since 9/11

Nova Andromeda · Post by **Nova Andromeda** » 2002-10-31 01:57am

--Last chance to discuss the march before the deed is done! Don't tell me the nonbelievers here would rather sit on the sidelines and let others fight for them!

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