Contact from Jonsan

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-23 05:18pm

Mr Jonsan contacted me via AIM a short time ago... I will hereby post his contact as is the tradition for trolls/fundies/morons.

Session Start (AIM - WeeMadAndo:Jonsan84): Thu Oct 24 07:56:45 2002
Jonsan84: Well it was a pleasure chatting with you but I don't think I'll be posting messages anymore. I find it hard to talk about my views with people who won't take the time to read and think about what I actually wrote instead of jumping to conclusions. If people want to call me things they have no idea about, then they can keep doing that. I won't be going back to that site though. You win.
*** Jonsan84 signed on at Thu Oct 24 07:57:33 2002.
Jonsan84: I didn't realize I had given the impression that I was a Nazi Racist.
Jonsan84: obviously they drew something from what I said that I don't know about.
Jonsan84: I must be quite an eloquent writer
WeeMadAndo: Sorry, I just got up, you'll have to excuse me while I seek out the thread again...
WeeMadAndo: I'll put it this way though, the moment that you mentioned that you based your beliefs off the bible it was all over for you.
Jonsan84: That is bullshit
Jonsan84: not all of my beliefs are based on the Bible
Jonsan84: most of them are common sense
WeeMadAndo: Like what?
Jonsan84: however, I must have made the mistake of using it for evidence
Jonsan84: since obviously no one thinks anything in it is truthful
Jonsan84: ask me
WeeMadAndo: Do you believe your views on homosexuality are common sense?
Jonsan84: Partly.
Jonsan84: To me at least
Jonsan84: I have many male friends whom I love dearly, but that doesn't make me gay
Jonsan84: What is the point of "having sex" with a man?
WeeMadAndo: But *common* sense would imply that you believe that is a generally held belief.
Jonsan84: Yes I suppose so
Jonsan84: I guess I used the wrong phrase.
Jonsan84: I meant more like my own thoughts
Jonsan84: and thoughts of people I've talked to
Jonsan84: and the thing that pisses me off the most is that they accuse me of hating homosexuals
Jonsan84: which is untrue
WeeMadAndo: On that board we have several homosexuals who are widely accepted by the people of the board.
Jonsan84: a have homosexual friends
Jonsan84: Oh, so you're only supposed to post something on there that everyone will agree with??
Jonsan84: and then to pull out of it that I want to ban jeans
WeeMadAndo: Hell no. You should see some of the arguement that I get into with people there.
Jonsan84: that is heinous
Jonsan84: even moreso that one stupid fuck called me a Nazi racist
WeeMadAndo: arguements (plural) even.
Jonsan84: okay
WeeMadAndo: Which one called you the nazi?
Jonsan84: I forget but it doesn't matter because I'm sure they all think that I am
Jonsan84: Just because he said it
WeeMadAndo: Ah, I see you even managed to get a Fundie Moron title in under 24 horus.
WeeMadAndo: Thats impressive.
Jonsan84: I had that last night I think
Jonsan84: Well all I had to do is say I'm a Christian and I'm automatically labeled as a fundie
Jonsan84: They probably have a fucking internet script that does that
WeeMadAndo: No, all you had to say was that you were a Christian with somewhat extreme beliefs, cited the bible as evidence and managed to rub the wrong way against some people.
Jonsan84: The only way I rubbed the wrong way was to say what I think is right.
Jonsan84: and they are WAY too defensive
Jonsan84: I swear
WeeMadAndo: We just ended a prolonged battle with WCOTC. You can expect us to be rather defensive of basic beliefs and rights.
Jonsan84: like that one who got into the argument with the fact that the predecessor to the basson was a fagotte, not the bassoon itself.
Jonsan84: Who the hell is that?
Jonsan84: and who is we?
WeeMadAndo: We is the board in general...
Jonsan84: What is the board
Jonsan84: What the fuck did I get myself into
Jonsan84: I didn't know there was a board of left-wing radicals ready to tear me apart.
Jonsan84: I thought anyone posted on this thing.
Jonsan84: I should have said what a fan of Star Wars I am
Jonsan84: Instead of talking about something controversial, God forbid
WeeMadAndo: Look on the bright-side, at least the thread hasn't been "Hall of Shamed" yet.
WeeMadAndo: b r b
Jonsan84: Like I care
Jonsan84: no offense
Jonsan84: I'm leaving anyway for a bit
Jonsan84: Talk to you later
WeeMadAndo: OK...
*** Auto-response from Jonsan84: Leave a message.
Session Close (Jonsan84): Thu Oct 24 08:17:31 2002

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-23 05:22pm

I love the way he attacks homosexuality but insists he's not bigoted, and acts as though we're all a bunch of "left-wing fanatics" for not accepting his bullshit.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-23 05:24pm

If he didn't want to get flamed, why did he jump in to defend that ass-wipe in the "anti-porn guy" thread?

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-23 05:26pm

Oy Vey.

Here's the type of troll who shuts up and gets polite when he realizes you're actually paying attention.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-23 05:33pm

Darth Wong wrote:If he didn't want to get flamed, why did he jump in to defend that ass-wipe in the "anti-porn guy" thread?

A friend of mine (who semi-lurks here and posted in that thread as Zaia) knows this guy and was arguing with him about the whole Anti-Porn guy thing. He was shown the way here and promptly became a chew-toy.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-10-23 05:49pm

I didn't know there was a board of left-wing radicals ready to tear me apart.

I like this phrase

Hey, you fundie!

This is a board of Science, and we are ready to tear you apart.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-23 06:01pm

Another contact...

Session Start (AIM - WeeMadAndo:Jonsan84): Thu Oct 24 08:36:13 2002
Jonsan84: I'm back
WeeMadAndo: Indeed.
Jonsan84: Sorry-I was off killing Jews and lynching blacks.
Jonsan84: But I think I'm done for now
WeeMadAndo: Thats good.
Jonsan84: Yeah-I wouldn't want anyone to call me a Nazi racist.
WeeMadAndo: No, no, that would be a travesty.
Jonsan84: People might start to get the impression that ALL Christians are like that.
Jonsan84: I love internet sarcasm
Jonsan84: Where's the sour grin smiley?
WeeMadAndo: Yeah, thats why we have a decent size collection of christians on the board already...
Jonsan84: Do they believe in the Bible?
WeeMadAndo: I mean, we have to have *someone* to mock...
Jonsan84: Worship God?
WeeMadAndo: Lets put it this way, they aren't fundamentalist, but they hold Christian beliefs.
WeeMadAndo: Do you believe in creationism?
Jonsan84: Yes
Jonsan84: Why?
WeeMadAndo: OK. Right there, is a massive drop in my respect for you.
Jonsan84: Oh my, a creationist Christian...
Jonsan84: by creationism, you mean the belief that God created the universe?
Jonsan84: and everything in it?
WeeMadAndo: Yeah, the whole book of genesis thing
Jonsan84: yes.
WeeMadAndo: How old is the earth?
Jonsan84: Must we get into this 20 minutes before I leave for class?
WeeMadAndo: I just want to get an idea of your beliefs.
WeeMadAndo: Do you believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old and that "fossils" were created by God to test out faith?
Jonsan84: I have never heard that theory.
WeeMadAndo: So what do you believe?
Jonsan84: I'm not too clear on that
Jonsan84: I like to lean toward the scientist's point of view
Jonsan84: which would make it roughly...eh 4 billion years old
Jonsan84: I think that's what they say
WeeMadAndo:
But you believe that god was still responsible for the creation of the universe and everything in it?
Jonsan84: Yes
WeeMadAndo: OK...
WeeMadAndo: Heaven and hell?
Jonsan84: Yes
Jonsan84: However, they are not part of the universe
WeeMadAndo: Who goes to hell and why?
WeeMadAndo: Who goes to heaven and why?
Jonsan84: Those who do not believe that Jesus Christ died to save us from our sins and therefore have not repented go to hell.
Jonsan84: Those who believe Jesus is the savior of our sins and the Son of God and who repent of their sins through Him go to heavan
Jonsan84: I know that sounds ridiculous because you can say, "Well should I just start committing heinous crimes and then repent"
WeeMadAndo: OK. So even though someone might have led a good life, not harmed anyone or anything and all the rest... They will go to hell because they didn't believe in a particular sectarian belief?
Jonsan84: Yes.
WeeMadAndo: That is truly a fucked up view.
WeeMadAndo: You ever read stuff by Jack Chick?
Jonsan84: But see, if you believe in it you think it is the truth so it isn't just a particular sectarian belief.
Jonsan84: No
WeeMadAndo: Believing in the Easter Bunny doesn't make it real.
WeeMadAndo: (Link: http://www.chick.com/catalog/tractlist. ... ctlist.asp
WeeMadAndo: Read some of those.
Jonsan84: Okay.
Jonsan84: Don't use the Easter Bunny analogy.
WeeMadAndo: Why?
WeeMadAndo: Its relevant.
WeeMadAndo: Figure of myth, believed in by many.
WeeMadAndo: But is it real?
Jonsan84: Fine.
WeeMadAndo: Look, I won't try and convert you. But the fact remains that I am openly atheistic, this doesn't however mean that I am going around burning babies and drinking blood. So why should I go to a hell that I don't even believe in when I die?
Jonsan84: Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean it exists...however that's beside the point. Let's assume hell is real for the moment okay?
Jonsan84: doesn't mean it doesn't it exist I meant to say*
WeeMadAndo: OK, assumptions are on.
WeeMadAndo: What model of hell do you follow, traditional biblical? New Testament? Faustian?
WeeMadAndo: So? Is there a counter-point coming at any time? I'm still attempting to assume that hell is real here.
Jonsan84: The reason is that the minds of all men (and women if you want to be politically correct) are sinful. In God's eyes, sin deserves the punishment of death. However, God will see you as clean because of Jesus' death.
Jonsan84: I believe in the biblical descriptions of hell
Jonsan84: Have you read Revelation?
Jonsan84: I hate to go now, but I have lab band practice.
Jonsan84: Talk to you later
WeeMadAndo: OK.
WeeMadAndo: Enjoy band...
WeeMadAndo: Yeah...
Jonsan84: as always
Jonsan84: let me know what you think of that
Jonsan84: although I'm sure I already know
WeeMadAndo: Oh, don't worry, I will.
*** Auto-response from Jonsan84: Not here.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-10-23 06:24pm

I believe in the biblical descriptions of hell

Man, It's a pity the guy isn't catholic. You should have seen the face of some of our fundies when the PoPe said there is no hell

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-23 06:58pm

Jonsan84: Sorry-I was off killing Jews and lynching blacks.
Jonsan84: But I think I'm done for now
WeeMadAndo: Thats good.
Jonsan84: Yeah-I wouldn't want anyone to call me a Nazi racist.
WeeMadAndo: No, no, that would be a travesty.

Oh. My. God.

I can't believe he OPENED with that....

And I loved your fossil argument...makes total sense.

Jonsan84: a have homosexual friends

ANd then the fact that he even SAID that, yet, he doesn't believe in homosexuality....If he doesn't believe in homosexuality, then he would gotten rid of any gay friends he might have had!

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-23 07:05pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:
I believe in the biblical descriptions of hell
Man, It's a pity the guy isn't catholic. You should have seen the face of some of our fundies when the PoPe said there is no hell

Ooo?! Cool! When was this?

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-10-23 08:03pm

#1. I believe in the Easter Bunny. His name is Bun Bun and he hires all kinds of other bunnies to go out and do his bidding.

#2. My fag joke was just that, A FUCKING JOKE! Yeah, I know what a Fagotte is. I've fucking PLAYED one before. Calling it a fag is NOT a joke! It's just rude.

#3. He's a fundamentalist jackass. I'm glad he left. He'd have nothing to contribute to this board.

Ok, I think I got all that off of my chest.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-23 08:04pm

Anyone think this ought to be dumped in the Hall of Shame?

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-10-23 09:22pm

I called him a nazi racist. Why you might ask, because he's a nazi racist. And if we discovered that he's also the anti-porn guy, that wouldn't be much of a shock.

If he AIMs you again, just remind him that he is in fact a nazi racist, and he should have his balls cut off so he can't contaminate the rest of the human and/or donkey population.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-23 09:27pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:
I believe in the biblical descriptions of hell
Man, It's a pity the guy isn't catholic. You should have seen the face of some of our fundies when the PoPe said there is no hell

When did this happen?!!?!?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-23 10:24pm

I remember the question asked of Spyda a year ago.

Paraphrased from memories

Spyda: Sorry that Troll was just an Asshole friend I know from Starcraft.
CS Strowbridge: Do you have any friends that aren't assholes?

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-10-23 11:39pm

Too bad, kinda. I'd just posted to promise him I wouldn't bite. He had a pretty thin skin-- no staying power at all like some of the others. Well, Weemadando, if he ever feels like coming back, let'm know the 'Yote will bark politely as long as he hisses likewise; 'course I can't speak for everyone else on the board, who tend to hack a snake when they see it coiling around bigotry...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-23 11:44pm

Hell, with the recent spate of invasions, I barely have time to clean the blood off the sword before pulling it out again

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-23 11:45pm

Then why wash off the blood? I mean, if you wash off the blood, then more come...if you leave it alone, then they stay away, if you follow my logic. Or just use a lightsaberf...no blood on the blade involved.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-23 11:57pm

Waiting for this place to get invaded by Pro Wrestling fans....

After Elite Fitness I knew it was inevitable.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-23 11:59pm

I couldn't resist....

[Field of Dreams whisper]

If you say it, they will come...

[/FOD]

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-24 12:36am

(Spooky girl from pultreguist=vioce)
Thereee Heeere
(/spooky girl from Pultreguist)

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-24 12:38am

heehee lol

[DOn't say a Word girl]

I'll never te-ell...I'll never te-ell...

[DSAW]

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-24 12:41am

THe Yosemite Bear wrote:(Spooky girl from pultreguist=vioce)
Thereee Heeere
(/spooky girl from Pultreguist)

verilon wrote:heehee lol

[DOn't say a Word girl]

I'll never te-ell...I'll never te-ell...

[DSAW]

Force Chokes the both of them. Don't encourage the trolls.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-24 12:42am

Bah...you're no fun...

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-10-24 12:47am

Pffff. If you want to have fun, go start a thread bashing fundies in the US.