Fundies

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2002-10-23 10:45pm

Damn debating with fundies is impossible without saying god doesn't exist, which in my case isn't really acceptable (I'm a catholic or quasi-agnostic depending on my state of mind (been reading too much of Durandal's logic

)). Stupid people who take the bible literally. Especially those bible church members and baptists. Ok they are not stupid, just too indoctrinated. Their best argument is "the bible says so"

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-23 10:47pm

Where is this supposed to go, exactly? You're reiterating what we already know...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-23 10:51pm

verilon wrote:Where is this supposed to go, exactly? You're reiterating what we already know...

He's looking for tactic's that won't earn him Fundamentalist Moron title.

And Pu-239, just admit it. Belief in God is an irrational belief. As long as you're a decent person being religious isn't a bad thing.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-23 10:52pm

Stormbringer wrote:
verilon wrote:Where is this supposed to go, exactly? You're reiterating what we already know...
He's looking for tactic's that won't earn him Fundamentalist Moron title.

And Pu-239, just admit it. Belief in God is an irrational belief. As long as you're a decent person being religious isn't a bad thing.

Heh. Or as long as you don't shove it in everyone's face 24/7...

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-23 11:28pm

I have a strong dislike for anyone with a rigid and inflexible code of beleifs or ideas that does not allow for anything else to be considered.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-10-23 11:52pm

Actually its very EASY to debate against a Fundie. You can leave the whole thing about god existing or not out of the debate. All you need is science to prove the claims of the bible wrong. Its really simple you know. The hard part is actually getting them to listen.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-10-24 05:06pm

It would be easy to debate a Fundie, but they're too ignorant. It's like throwing wiffle balls at a brick wall. However, some may hange, even if it isn't a good one. They'll probably go days without sleep, cry to themselves, and become recluses. Because you see, to a fundie, ignorance is bliss.

Ignorant_Boy · Post by **Ignorant_Boy** » 2002-10-24 05:19pm

I've got a Fundie friend who's very good (or at least as good as a 16 year old can be) at science and math. He can apply his knowledge very well in most practical matters.

The problems start to crop up with dealing with religion though. He just can't seem to seperate himself from his religion... I don't believe Fundies (or at least some of them anyway; Anti-Porn Guy is a nice exception) are all stupid; it's just they are too indoctornated into their religion to logically question it.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-10-24 05:26pm

One more prince of fundies..

at the distance of a mouse click

http://www.evolutionfairytale.com

Ignorant_Boy · Post by **Ignorant_Boy** » 2002-10-24 05:32pm

If what the Bible says is true regarding the spiritual warfare that is going on with Satan and his servants, the fact that there are other religions should certainly be no surprise, nor should it be a surprise that the Bible is attacked by non-believers far more than any other religious book. Jesus emphatically warned his followers of the many counterfeits and false prophets that would come and try to lead men astray (Matthew 24:11, Mark 13:22, etc.). The other religions of the world have been an effective tool of Satan in his quest to blind us of our need for a Savior.

Gotta love it when Fundies use the Bible as "proof." He's still basing his arguments on the assumption that the Bible is true......

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-10-24 05:43pm

Just like the Bible says pi=3. But wait geometry says pi= 3.1415... That means that math is a tool of Satan.

In my opinion the existence of a deity is not known one way or the other. Unless it comes down and kicks some ass. This does mean that you can't disprove the existence of a deity, you can disprove the existence of certain deities. The literal Biblical God does not exist, see my thing on pi about taking the Bible as literal proof and the fact that the ark and flood couldn't have happened the way that it claims as well as Darth Wong's site, etc.

Ignorant_Boy · Post by **Ignorant_Boy** » 2002-10-24 05:54pm

My fundie friend refutes the pi=3 thing by saying there was a lip on the bowl. Since this makes the edge extend out, increasing diameter and the liquid is not right to the top, so the ratio of circumference:diameter is not ~3.14. He also claimed that archaelogists have found this bowl and there was a lip.

However, he did not provide any sources or point me to any articles.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-10-24 06:02pm

Ignorant_Boy wrote:My fundie friend refutes the pi=3 thing by saying there was a lip on the bowl. Since this makes the edge extend out, increasing diameter and the liquid is not right to the top, so the ratio of circumference:diameter is not ~3.14. He also claimed that archaelogists have found this bowl and there was a lip.

However, he did not provide any sources or point me to any articles.

How would that work? The Bible says "10 cubits from rim to rim," and "30 cubits to measure around it." No literal mention of a lip. If it ain't in the Bible then it ain't true, right? That means no lip and pi=3. If you're a complete moron.

Ask for sources and pictures. If he can't provide either then he can't use that as evidence. If there is a rim does it measure so that pi=3.1415...

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-10-24 06:43pm

EmperorMing wrote:I have a strong dislike for anyone with a rigid and inflexible code of beleifs or ideas that does not allow for anything else to be considered.

Hmmm, you likely wouldn't care for me then.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-25 12:54am

jegs2 wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:I have a strong dislike for anyone with a rigid and inflexible code of beleifs or ideas that does not allow for anything else to be considered.
Hmmm, you likely wouldn't care for me then.

You're not *that* bad, are you...?

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-10-25 05:21pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:One more prince of fundies..

at the distance of a mouse click

http://www.evolutionfairytale.com

Alright, get out the hammers of logic, it's time for an Imperial Smack Down!

Hey, we need an image to with the Smack Down.