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My Christian fundie co-worker...

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...has taken it upon himself to tell my other co-workers that I "hate God" because I'm an atheist. I haven't noticed a lot of fallout from this (yet), but I was overlooked when my supervisor (a moderate Catholic) recently had his baby boy baptized and everyone except me was invited to the event. Keep in mind, I don't advertise my atheism so it's not as if I'm some outspoken, anti-religious activist in the workplace.

Anyone else with similar experiences?
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Assertively remind your supervisor and boss that any discrimination based on your faith(or lack thereof) can bring down a law suit.
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Galvatron wrote:...has taken it upon himself to tell my other co-workers that I "hate God" because I'm an atheist. I haven't noticed a lot of fallout from this (yet), but I was overlooked when my supervisor (a moderate Catholic) recently had his baby boy baptized and everyone except me was invited to the event. Keep in mind, I don't advertise my atheism so it's not as if I'm some outspoken, anti-religious activist in the workplace.

Anyone else with similar experiences?
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I'd tell the supervisor that you respect his belief and that you where surprised that you weren't invited to an event that you'd have appriciated since it's a celebration of life.

Also it doesn't hurt to remind them that JC didn't spend his time with believers only, instead he also spent time with the whores and tax collectors. For them not to spend time with you because of your belief that there is no god is to turn their back on JC.

(I'm amazed at the lack of biblical insight on the part of most christians)...
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on the other hand, why would you want to have anything to do with an asshole like that? if he doesnt like because you´re an atheist he should just go and fuck himself.
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Before you get too angry with your supervisor, he may have thought that since you're an athiest, it would be insulting or inapproppriate to invite you to a Catholic ceremony (most Christians have no idea how to deal with athiests politely, even if they want to). Do, however, feel free to remind the Fundy about harassment laws. Unlike your boss, there's no room for inerpretation: he's just an asshole.
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Galvatron wrote:...has taken it upon himself to tell my other co-workers that I "hate God" because I'm an atheist. I haven't noticed a lot of fallout from this (yet), but I was overlooked when my supervisor (a moderate Catholic) recently had his baby boy baptized and everyone except me was invited to the event. Keep in mind, I don't advertise my atheism so it's not as if I'm some outspoken, anti-religious activist in the workplace.

Anyone else with similar experiences?
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Um...you're boss isn't required to invite you to a nonwork related function. Besides, why do you care? A baptism is an child's entrance into the Christian community.


As for your coworker, ya, he's a dick.
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ElBlanco wrote:Um...you're boss isn't required to invite you to a nonwork related function. Besides, why do you care? A baptism is an child's entrance into the Christian community.
So? Halloween is a pagan/secular festival, yet a Christian might get miffed if he's the only person in the office not invited to a Halloween party.
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Thats not cuz he is a Christian, thats something with him/her personally. I am a Catholic and if someone doesn't invite me to their party, they are probably someone I don't hang out with anyway, so I'm really not going to care.
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Would you have went to hte baptism if invited?

Anyway, if I was you, I wouldn't be so open.
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Galvatron wrote:...has taken it upon himself to tell my other co-workers that I "hate God" because I'm an atheist. I haven't noticed a lot of fallout from this (yet), but I was overlooked when my supervisor (a moderate Catholic) recently had his baby boy baptized and everyone except me was invited to the event. Keep in mind, I don't advertise my atheism so it's not as if I'm some outspoken, anti-religious activist in the workplace.

Anyone else with similar experiences?
This is a major HR issue if I ever saw one.

And yes I have had a similar issue but not that way. There was a religious discussion going on between some of my coworkers. The manager came by and informed us that it should be stopped due to a potential HR issue. (this company employs everyone with *any* religious background...
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Tell your co-worker to fuck off and you can't hate something that can't exist.


Or...

Ask him if he believes in Santa Claus. When he says no, BAM! Say your a Santa Claus hating freak.
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You should take it upon yourself to spread the word that your christian fundie coworker is an evil lying bastard who is probably racist and rotten to the core of his being.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:You should take it upon yourself to spread the word that your christian fundie coworker is an evil lying bastard who is probably racist and rotten to the core of his being.
Perfect! And the best part is, HE CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'LL BE 99% TRUE!!!
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yes, and tell everyone that he´s a donkey rapist as well!
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The thing with that is, it is in all likelyhood true :D
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Go to management and point out that this is a "poisonous workplace environment" human resources scenario. Point out that if you were a black man and a white man were running around using racial slurs, there would be no question that he should be disciplined. This is simply religious intolerance rather than racial intolerance, and it has no place in the workplace.

Your religion or lack thereof should simply not be a matter for discussion, and it is certainly unacceptable for anyone to be running around slandering you for not sharing his beliefs. Explain to them that you are being made to feel like an outcast, and that if you were a litigious type of person, you would have a strong case for legal action against them.

In other words, inform management that they'd better tell him to shut the fuck up, or else.
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Hey, hey... Three things.

1) Don't judge all Christians by the ones that you usually see. The people with dead baby signs outside abortion clinics, the rumor-spreading coworkers, and anyone else who gets attention this way and claims to be a Christian is not following God's teachings. "This is my commandment, that you love one another, that your joy may be full." These people pervert my religion, and they're half the reason that I'm looking for a new one. (The other half being that I really don't believe with a lot that's said."

2)This guy is an asshole, plain and simple. Deal with him as an individual. If you want to say bad things about him, that's fine. But please make sure you're insulting him and not the rest of us crazy fools (see item 1). He's a dick, plain and simple.

3) The bible verse that was quoted earlier, "Judge not lest ye be judged," is one of the most misquoted scripture verses known to man. It's only half the verse. The complete thing is "Judge not lest ye be judged in the same manner." Taken in this light, it has much more in common with the verse (paraphrased) "Do not try to remove the splinter from your brother's eye before you remove the log in your own." It's a commentary on making yourself pure before you try to judge the purity of others.

Phew... okay, done now.
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