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Through a series of discussions, on the Secular Web forums and in alt.atheism, I have determined that the following are the most popular (if not the most convincing) arguments used by Christian evangelists and apologists. In no particular order:


1. TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT

(1) God exists.
(2) If God exists, then if reason exists then God exists.
(3) Reason exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.


2. COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT

(1) If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.


3. ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)

(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


4. ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)

(1) God exists.
(2) Since God exists, God must be perfect.
(3) That which is perfect must exist.
(4) Therefore, God exists.


5. MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT

(1) God exists.
(2) God, existing, is either necessary or unnecessary.
(3) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
(4) Therefore, God exists.


6. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT

(1) Check out that tree. Isn't it pretty?
(2) Therefore, God exists.


7. ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES

(1) My aunt Helen was most likely to die from cancer.
(2) She didn't.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


8. MORAL ARGUMENT (I)

(1) Person X, a well-known atheist, was morally inferior to the rest
of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


9. MORAL ARGUMENT (II)

(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling,
child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


10. ARGUMENT FROM CREATION

(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God
exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to
understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be
uncomfortable
(3) Therefore, God exists.


11. ARGUMENT FROM FEAR

(1) If there is no God then we're all going to die.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


12. ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE

(1) [arbitrary passage from OT]
(2) [arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.


13. ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole
thing to you stupid atheists -- it's too complicated for you to
understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


14. ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE

(1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys -- you're
obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say
can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and
you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God
so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world,
that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth" John
3:16.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


15. ARGUMENT FROM BELIEF

(1) If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
(2) I believe in God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


16. ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION

(1) See this bonfire?
(2) Therefore, God exists.


17. PARENTAL ARGUMENT

(1) My mommy and daddy told me that God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


18. ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS

(1) Millions and millions of people believe in God.
(2) They can't all be wrong, can they?
(3) Therefore, God exists.


19. ARGUMENT FROM ABSURDITY

(1) Maranathra!
(2) Therefore, God exists.


20. ARGUMENT FROM ECONOMY

(1) God exists, you bastards!
(2) Therefore, God exists.


21. BOATWRIGHT'S ARGUMENT

(1) Ha ha ha.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


22. DORE'S ARGUMENT

(1) I forgot to take my meds.
(2) Therefore, I AM CHRIST!!
(3) Therefore, God exists.


23. ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY

(1) Eric Clapton is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


24. ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY

(1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


25. ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY

(1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
(2) No one has ever refuted (1).
(3) Therefore, God exists.


26. ARGUMENT FROM AMERICAN EVANGELISM

(1) Telling people that God exists makes me filthy rich.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


27. MITCHELL'S ARGUMENT

(1) The Christian God exists.
(2) Therefore, all worldviews which don't assume the Christian God's existence are false and incomprehensible.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


28. ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (I)

(1) Atheists are spiritually blind.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


29. ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (II)

(1) God is love.
(2) Love is blind.
(3) Ray Charles is blind.
(4) Therefore, Ray Charles is God.
(5) Therefore, God exists.


30. ARGUMENT FROM FALLIBILITY

(1) Human reasoning is inherently flawed.
(2) Therefore, there is no reasonable way to challenge a proposition.
(3) I propose that God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.


31. ARGUMENT FROM SMUGNESS

(1) God exists.
(2) I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


32. ARGUMENT FROM META-SMUGNESS

(1) Fuck you.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


33. ARGUMENT FROM MANIFESTATIONS

(1) If you turn your head sideways and squint a little, you can see an image of a bearded face in that tortilla.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


34. SLATHER'S ARGUMENT

(1) My toaster is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


35. ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPLETE DEVASTATION

(1) A plane crashed killing 143 passengers and crew.
(2) But one child survived with only third-degree burns.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


36. ARGUMENT FROM POSSIBLE WORLDS

(1) If things had been different, then things would be different.
(2) That would be bad.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


37. ARGUMENT FROM SHEER WILL

(1) I DO believe in God! I DO believe in God! I do I do I do I DO believe in God!
(2) Therefore, God exists.


38. ARGUMENT FROM NONBELIEF

(1) The majority of the world's population are nonbelievers in Christianity.
(2) This is just what Satan intended.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


39. ARGUMENT FROM POST-DEATH EXPERIENCE

(1) Person X died an atheist.
(2) He now realizes his mistake.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


40. ARGUMENT FROM EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL

(1) God loves you.
(2) How could you be so heartless to not believe in him?
(3) Therefore, God exists.


41. ARGUMENT FROM INCOHERENT BABBLE

(1) See that person spazzing on the church floor babbling incoherently?
(2) That's how infinite wisdom reveals itself.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


42. OPRAH'S ARGUMENT (I)

(1) The human spirit exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


43. OPRAH'S ARGUMENT (II)

(1) Check out this video segment.
(2) Now how can anyone watch that and NOT believe in God?
(3) Therefore, God exists.


44. CALVINISTIC ARGUMENT

(1) If God exists, then he will let me watch you be tortured forever.
(2) I rather like that idea.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


45. ARGUMENT FROM CROCKERY (I)

(1) Pots don't go around giving orders to the potter.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


46. ARGUMENT FROM MASS PRODUCTION

(1) Barbie dolls were created.
(2) If Barbie dolls were created, then so were trees.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


47. ARGUMENT FROM PAROCHIALISM

(1) God is everywhere.
(2) We haven't been everywhere to prove he's not there.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


48. ARGUMENT FROM UPPERCASE ASSERTION

(1) GOD EXISTS! GET USED TO IT!
(2) Therefore, God exists.


49. ARGUMENT FROM INFINITE REGRESS

(1) Ask atheists what caused the Big Bang.
(2) Regardless of their answer, ask how they know this.
(3) Continue process until the atheist admits he doesn't know the answer to one of your questions.
(4) You win!
(5) Therefore, God exists.


50. ARGUMENT FROM INCREDULITY

(1) How could God NOT exist, you bozo?
(2) Therefore, God exists.


51. ARGUMENT FROM HISTORY

(1) The Bible is true.
(2) Therefore, the Bible is historical fact.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


52. ARGUMENT FROM RESURRECTION

(1) Proof of God's existence will be available when you rise bodily from your grave.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


53. ARGUMENT FROM BIOGENESIS

(1) Where did Adam come from, dummy?
(2) Therefore, God exists.


54. ARGUMENT FROM STEADFAST FAITH

(1) A lot of really cool people believed in God their entire lives.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


55. ARGUMENT FROM LONELINESS

(1) Christians say that Jesus is their best friend.
(2) I'm lonely, and I want a best friend.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


56. ARGUMENT FROM ARGUMENTATION

(1) God exists.
(2) [atheist's counterargument]
(3) Yes he does.
(4) [atheist's counterargument]
(5) Yes he does!
(6) [atheist's counterargument]
(7) YES HE DOES!!!
(8) [atheist gives up and goes home]
(9) Therefore, God exists.


57. ARGUMENT FROM CREATIVE INTERPRETATION

(1) God is:
(a) The feeling you have when you look at a newborn baby.
(b) The love of a mother for her child.
(c) That little still voice in your heart.
(d) Humankind's potential to overcome their difficulties.
(e) How I feel when I look at a sunset.
(f) The taste of ice cream on a hot day.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


58. ARGUMENT FROM INSECURITY

(1) We have gone to absolutely berserk lengths to establish that atheists are laughable morons.
(1.5) Actually, we did so in the hopes of curing our own insecurities about theism -- but there's no chance in hell we'll ever admit that.
(2) Therefore, atheists are laughable morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


59. ARGUMENT FROM SUPERIORITY

(1) If God does not exist, then I am an inferior being, since I am not "special" in a cosmic sense.
(2) But I am superior. Because I am a Christian.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


60. ARGUMENT FROM PERFECTION

(1) If there are absolute moral standards, then God exists.
(2) Atheists say that there are no absolute moral standards.
(3) But that's because they don't want to admit to being sinners.
(4) Therefore, there are absolute moral standards.
(5) Therefore, God exists.


61. ARGUMENT FROM HUMAN NECESSITY

(1) Atheists say that they don't need God.
(2) Which just goes to show that they need God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.


62. ARGUMENT FROM HIDDEN LOGIC (I)

(1) Intellectually, I know that the existence of God is impossible, or vastly improbable.
(2) But I must put on the appearance of being cool and intellectual in front of my Christian apologist peers.
(3) Therefore, I must pretend that (1) is false.
(4) Therefore, God exists.


63. ARGUMENT FROM INDULGENCE

(1) Atheists like to think that they can control their emotional desires.
(2) But they're atheists, so they can't.
(3) Therefore, atheists feel the need to indulge in whatever they feel like without worrying about committing sin.
(4) This just goes to show how they need God in their lives.
(5) Therefore, God exists.


64. ARGUMENT FROM HATE

(1) Some atheists hate Christians and Christianity.
(2) That's why they don't believe in God.
(3) Pathetic, aren't they?
(4) Therefore, God exists.


65. ARGUMENT FROM QUENTIN SMITH

(1) Quentin Smith says that God does not exist.
(2) But God does exist.
(3) Therefore, Quentin Smith cannot be accepted as an expert on the matter, because he is wrong.
(4) Therefore, God exists.


66. ARGUMENT FROM EVIL SPIRITS

(1) I've just had contact with evil spirits.
(2) Therefore, God exists.


67. ARGUMENT FROM HIDDEN LOGIC (II)

(1) Atheists say that God doesn't exist.
(2) But they only say that because they want to look cool and intellectual in front of their peers.
(3) They don't fool me!
(4) Therefore, God exists.


68. ARGUMENT FROM HOVIND'S CHALLENGE

(1) Kent Hovind offers \$250,000 (which may or may not exist) to anyone who can demonstrate evolution (defined as a natural, acausal origin of the universe) to a reasonable doubt (meaning with 100% certainty, allowing for no other possibilities whatsoever) in front of a neutral committee (handpicked by Hovind himself) and according to certain criteria (carefully worded so as to rule out any possibility whatsoever of the challenge ever being met).
(2) No atheist has ever met this challenge.
(3)Therefore, God exists.


69. ARGUMENT FROM INSANITY

(1) No sane person could have thought up Christianity
(2) Therefore, it must be true
(3) Therefore, God exists


70. ARGUMENT FROM EXHAUSTION (abridged)

1) Do you agree with the utterly trivial proposition X?
2) Atheist: of course.
3) How about the slightly modified proposition X'?
4) Atheist: Um, no, not really.
5) Good. Since we agree, how about Y? Is that true?
6) Atheist: No! And I didn't agree with X'!
7) With the truths of these clearly established, surely you agree that Z is true as well?
8) Atheist: No. So far I have only agreed with X! Where is this going, anyway?
9) I'm glad we all agree.....
....
37) So now we have used propositions X, X', Y, Y', Z, Z', P, P', Q and Q' to arrive at the obviously valid point R. Agreed?
38) Atheist: Like I said, so far I've only agreed with X. Where is this going?
....
81) So we now conclude from this that propositions L'', L''' and J'' are true. Agreed?
82) I HAVEN'T AGREED WITH ANYTHING YOU'VE SAID SINCE X! WHERE IS THIS GOING!?
....
177) ...and it follows that proposition HRV, SHQ'' and BTU' are all obviously valid. Agreed?
178) [Atheist either faints from overwork or leaves in disgust]
179) Therefore, God exists.


71. MR. GOODSALT'S ARGUMENT (ARGUMENT FROM GENERAL INQUIRY)

1) Question for atheist population: [apparently random question]
2) Your answer is wrong.
3) Therefore, God exists.


72. PEACOCK'S ARGUMENT FROM ORIGINALITY

1) I have written the following to demonstrate the existence of God.
2) [insert entire text of a William Lane Craig article]
3) Therefore, God exists.


73. PEACOCK'S ARGUMENT FROM LIMITED VOCABULARY

1) You use lots of big words.
2) Therefore, I cannot possibly be expected to understand your refutation of my position.
3) Therefore, God exists.


74. PEACOCK'S ARGUMENT FROM SELECTIVE MEMORY

1) [Christian asks "stumper" question]
2) [Atheist answers question]
3) [A lapse of time]
4) [Christian repeats question]
5) [Atheist repeats answer]
6) [A lapse of time]
7) [Christian repeats question]
8) [Atheist repeats answer]
9) [A lapse of time]
10) Atheist, you never answered my question.
11) Therefore, God exists.


75. ARGUMENT FROM DIVINE ECONOMICS

1) Protestant Christian nations are rich.
2) Therefore, God exists.


76. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL SANITY

1) I've had religious experiences that can't be explained unless I'm insane or God exists.
2) Therefore, God exists.


77. ARGUMENT FROM INSTITUTIONAL LONGETIVITY

1) The Roman Catholic Church has been around for a long time.
2) Therefore, God exists.


78. ARGUMENT FROM INEVITABILITY

1) I have proof that God exists.
2) I won't bother to tell you what it is because, being atheists, you would be hostile to the conclusion anyway.
3) Therefore, God exists.


79. ARGUMENT FROM "THE MATRIX"

1) We cannot prove that we don't live in a Matrix-like world.
2) Therefore we cannot know reality.
3) If reality is contingent, then everything is possible.
4) Therefore, God exists.


80. ARGUMENT FROM SUBJECTIVITY

1) Everything is subjective.
2) No subjective proof can be superior to any other subjective proof.
3) Based upon my subjective opinion, your opinion, that if everything is subjective then, perforce, God is subjective, is false.
4) Therefore, God (objectively) exists.


81. ARGUMENT FROM POSTMODERNISM

1) I'm going to prove to you that God exists.
2) [insert any of the other arguments on this page in here]
3) [atheist refutes argument]
4) I cannot prove there is a God anymore than anyone of us can prove we really exist in a tangible world.
5) Therefore, God exists.


82. ARGUMENT FROM SQUARE CIRCLES

1) There is no such thing as a square circle.
2) God is not a square circle.
3) Therefore, God exists.


83. ARGUMENT FROM DICTATORSHIP

1) Dictators do not believe in God.
2) Dictators are wrong.
3) Therefore, God exists.


84. ARGUMENT FROM DIVINE RIGHT

1) God save the Queen.
2) The Queen has not died.
3) Therefore, God exists.


85. BENDER'S ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS

1) I have these two functions that have (up to 7 decimal places) a common root.
2) Some of the numbers involved in the functions are the same numbers used for various things in the Bible.
3) Since there is such a small probability of finding two functions that are "found in nature" (whatever that means) and that are also "Biblically significant" (whatever that means, as well), it is obvious that finding these functions wasn't a coincidence.
4) Therefore God gave me these functions.
5) Therefore God exists.


86. BENDER'S ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS (ABRIDGED)
1) 36.5
2) Therefore, God exists.


87. META-ARGUMENT

1) This is a proof of God's existence.
2) If the reader finishes reading this proof, the existence of God will be proven to him/her.
3) If the existence of God is proven, then God exists.
4) Therefore, God exists.


88. ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTE

1) God can be seen by those who believe.
2) If God is seen, then God must exist.
3) I believe in God.
4) Therefore, God exists.


89. ARGUMENT FROM BIBLICAL HISTORY

1) Many modern historians think that there probably was somebody named Jesus, maybe.
2) Therefore, God exists.


90. BENDER’S ARGUMENT FROM TAP-DANCING DEMONS

1) One day, demons were tap-dancing on my roof. I prayed and they went away.
2) Therefore, demons are really good dancers.
3) Also, God exists.


91. RANDMAN’S ARGUMENT

1) This entry from the 1975 World Book Encyclopedia on evolution contains some errors, that I claim to have already substantiated.
2) Mr. Ph.D.-in-Evolutionary-Biology, this proves that evolution is an unsound scientific concept.
3) Therefore, God exists.


92. ARGUMENT FROM MULTIPLICITY

1) I have a large number of arguments for God.
2) One of them is probably true.
3) Therefore, God exists.


93. ARGUMENT FROM FORTUITOUS COINCIDENCE

1) What are the odds of that happening?
2) Pretty long, I’ll bet.
3) Therefore, God exists.


94. BENDER’S ARGUMENT FROM DAVID BLAINE

1) If David Blaine does real magic, then God exists.
2) It looked real on his TV special.
3) Therefore, God exists.


95.ARGUMENT FROM MYSTERIOUS USE OF PREPOSITIONS

1) It is impossible to disprove God with your puny human intellect unless you are above God.
2) Are you higher than God?
3) I’ll take that puzzled look on your face as a no.
4) Therefore, God exists.


96.ARGUMENT FROM TEEN/TWENTYISH CHRISTIAN MOVEMENT

1) God is so totally awesome, dude, and if you would pretend that Creed and POD were good bands, you would realize that.
2) Also, our Youth Group leader Skip once, like, cured a broken leg using only the power of the almighty Lord.
3) Therefore, God exists.


97. ARGUMENT FROM SPEAKING IN TOUNGES

1) My friend here, once started spontaneously speaking some jibberish that sounded to me kind of like Russian.
2) But neither he nor I know anything about Russian.
3) The only explanation is God.
4) Therefore, God exists.


98. ARGUMENT FROM EUROPEAN HISTORY

1) Many prominent thinkers in pre-modern Europe believed in God.
2) Let’s just forget about the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.
3) Therefore, God exists.


99. ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN

1) If there is a designer, then God must exist.
2) If I find a watch in a forest, there must be a designer
3) *throws watch into forest*
4) Therefore, God exists.


100. ARGUMENT FROM FUTURITY

1) I will prove the existence of God in the following argument.
2) Therefore, God exists.


101. ARGUMENT FROM HISTORY

1) I proved the existence of God in the preceding argument.
2) Therefore, God exists.


102. ARGUMENT FROM LOURDES (TERCEL'S ARGUMENT)

1) Some sick people who went to France say they felt somewhat better.
2) Therefore, God exists.


103. ARGUMENT FROM BAD PUNCTUATION 1) God is real, and of course He has not shown His face and will not until all is fullfilled no one in this universe can tell you when He will come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (This was a real letter sent to Positive Atheism.)
2) Therefore, God exists.


104. ARGUMENT FROM OFFENSE

1) God exists.
2) [atheist gives counterarguments]
3) You know what? I am offended.
4) Therefore, God exists.


105. ARGUMENT FROM PRAYER

1) God exists.
2) [atheist gives counterarguments]
3) You're in my prayers.
4) Therefore, God exists.


106. ARGUMENT FROM AGNOSTICISM

1) I don't know.
2) Neither do you.
3) Therefore, God exists.


107. ARGUMENT FROM IDENTITY

1) Belief in God is a central part of my identity.
2) You don't mean to deny my identity, now do you?
3) Therefore, God exists.


108. ARGUMENT FROM FORMATTING

1) Behold, foolish atheist, I present you with an incontrovertible proof of the existence of God.
2) [Christian posts 10,000 word document without a single paragraph break]
3) [atheist's eyes implode]
4) I see that you have not refuted (2).
5) Therefore, God exists.


109. ARGUMENT FROM NON-CONFRONTATION

1) I'm not here to argue with you, atheist.
2) But come on, God obviously exists.
3) Therefore, God exists.


110. ARGUMENT FROM EXODUS

1) If the Exodus story has any basis in historical fact, then God must exist.
2) Some guy found some chariot wheels at the bottom of the Red Sea.
3) Therefore, God exists.


111. ARGUMENT FROM MARTYRDOM

1) The apostles would not have died for something they knew wasn't true.
2) The atheist gives examples of martyrs outside Christendom, but they were obviously fooled by Satan.
3) Therefore, God exists.


112. ARGUMENT FROM TINKERBELL

1) I really, really want God to exist.
2) If you wish for something really hard, it'll come true.
3) Therefore, God exists.


113. ARGUMENT FROM PREFERRED ANCESTRY

1) I don't want to be related to monkeys.
2) Therefore, God exists.


114. ARGUMENT FROM THE FOOLISHNESS OF ATHEISM

1) Psalm 14:1.
2) Therefore, God exists.


115. ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (I)

1) Someone made fun of my faith.
2) Therefore, God exists.


116. ARGUMENT FROM REALLY COOL STUFF THAT JESUS SAID

1) Jesus said some really cool stuff.
2) No one else ever said that stuff.
3) Therefore, God exists.


117. ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN MORALITY

1) History is full of professed Christians who did something nice.
2) We'll just ignore the not-nice things that Christians may or may not have done in the past, you can't trust history anyway.
3) Therefore, God exists.


118. ARGUMENT FROM POTENTIAL INSANITY

1) I would go crazy if I didn't believe in God.
2) I'M NOT CRAZY!!!!
3) Therefore, God exists.


119. THE DUTCHMAN'S ARGUMENT (ARGUMENT FROM MUSICAL CONSPIRACY THEORY)

1) The atheist likes music.
2) Therefore, the atheist is schitzophrenic.
3) Who cares if the logic is flimsier than a house of cards? Character assassination is the only way I can win this debate.
4) Therefore, God exists.


120. ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (II) / ARGUMENT FROM IDIOCY (I)

1) Jesus said that people would make fun of Christians.
2) I am an idiot.
3) People often point that out.
4) Therefore, God exists.


121. ARGUMENT FROM INTEREST

1) If God really didn't exist, then atheists wouldn't spend so much time talking about him.
2) [atheist refutes (1)]
3) See?
4) Therefore, God exists.


122. ARGUMENT FROM CATCHPHRASE

1) There are no atheists in foxholes.
2) [atheist points to some atheists in foxholes]
3) They don't count.
4) Therefore, God exists.


123. ARGUMENT FROM HOSPITALS

1) Atheists don't build hospitals.
2) [atheist points to Bill Gates and Ted Turner, who donate millions to charity]
3) Yes, but do they build hospitals?
4) Therefore, God exists.


124. ARGUMENT FROM SERIOUS ASSERTION

1) God exists.
2) No, seriously.
3) Therefore, God exists.


125. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF EVIDENCE (SIMPSON'S ARGUMENT)

1) God, if you exist, please give me absolutely no sign.
2)
3) Therefore, God exists.


126. ARGUMENT FROM IDIOCY (II)

1) Even an idiot can see that God exists.
2) I am an idiot.
3) Therefore, God exists.


127. ARGUMENT FROM 9-11 (I)

1) Terrorists destroyed the World Trade Center, killing thousands.
2) One piece of the rubble sort of looks like a cross.
3) Therefore, God exists.


128. PEACOCK'S ARGUMENT FROM NON-COMPETITION

1) I dare atheists to refute this argument!
2) [atheist refutes argument]
3) Why do you have to turn everything into a comptetition?
4) Therefore, God exists.


129. ARGUMENT FROM CROCKERY (II)

1) I am in a bad mood and considering throwing this plate at you.
2) I want you to believe in God.
3) Therefore, God exists.


130. ARGUMENT FROM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

1) The Pledge was changed in the fifties to state that this is "one nation, under God."
2) Therefore, the existence of God is a necessary condition for the existence of America.
3) Therefore, God exists.


131. LAURA INGRAHAM'S ARGUMENT

1) Nobody really listens to atheists anyway, do they?
2) Therefore, God exists.


132. ARGUMENT FROM RAPIST WITH NUCLEAR STRAP-ON (ED'S ARGUMENT)

1) Being indirectly responsible for something is very different from directly responsible for something, especially if it is allowed in order for a greater good to occur. A better analogy would be a rapist with an activated nuclear weapon strapped to him in a large city. He starts raping a woman but if you try to stop him millions could die, so you have to allow him to do it until a better way of getting rid of him can be discovered.
2) Thus, the existence of evil does not preclude the existence of God.
3) Therefore, God exists.


133. ARGUMENT FROM THE FOUNDING FATHERS

1) The Founding Fathers were Christians.
2) Yes they were.
3) Yes they were.
4) YES THEY WERE!!!
5) Well anyway, the Founding Fathers were really smart, so they MUST have been Christians!
6) (And anyway, Deists are really Christians, they just haven't figured it out yet.)
7) Therefore, God exists.


134. ARGUMENT FROM LOTS AND LOTS OF BOOKS

1) The Bible has lots and lots of books written by lots of people over lots of time.
2) Through countless centuries of apologetics, we've been able to hammer out a more or less coherent plot for all these books (the ones we liked, anyway).
3) It is impossible for so many authors over so much time to write so many books from which we could form a coherent plot.
4) Therefore, God exists.


135. ARGUMENT FROM RESURRECTION ACCOUNTS

1) The Bible claims that Jesus rose from the dead.
2) No other religious text claims that someone rose from the dead.
3) Therefore, God exists.


136. ARGUMENT FROM ADMINISTRATIVE CONTROL (BAPTISTBOARD'S ARGUMENT)

1) [insert Christian argument]
2) [atheist refutes argument]
3) Atheists are hereby banned.
4) [repeat (1)]
5) [no refutations]
6) Therefore, God exists.


137. ARGUMENT FROM BRUTE FORCE AGAINST AUTOMOTIVE DECORATIONS

1) [Christian tears off Darwin fish, breaks it into thirds, and sticks it onto driver's side window (true story)]
2) Therefore, evolution is false.
3) Therefore, God exists.


138. ARGUMENT FROM EQUAL VALUE

1) The view that God exists is a worldview, just like the scientific and evolution worldviews.
2) You're not discriminating against our worldview, are you?
3) Therefore, the God worldview has the same value was the evolution and scientific worldviews.
4) Therefore, God exists.


139. ARGUMENT FROM ASSUMPTION

1) Therefore, God exists.


140. EXISTENTIALIST ARGUMENT

1) I have a boil on my bottom.
2) Therefore, God exists.


141. ARGUMENT FROM EVIDENTIAL ASSERTION (HENRY MORRIS'S ARGUMENT)

1) God exists.
2) Therefore, all the physical evidence must show this.
3) Therefore, it does.
4) Therefore, God exists.


142. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF MEANNESS

1) If God didn't exist, it would be mean of him to make me think he did.
2) God isn't mean.
3) Therefore, God exists.


143. ARGUMENT FROM WE ALL GOT FAITH

1) We all believe in something -- thus, we all have faith in something.
2) My faith in God is no different than your faith that the Sun will come up tomorrow morning.
3) Therefore, God exists.


144. ARGUMENT FROM BIGOTRY (FRED PHELPS'S ARGUMENT)

1) The Bible says that anal sex is yucky.
2) I agree.
3) Plus, some gay people died of AIDS.
4) Therefore, God exists.


145. ARGUMENT FROM BEAVERS

1) Some beavers built sort of a cross shaped thing and sort of stood around it. (apparently true story)
2) Therefore, God exists.


146. ARGUMENT FROM COOLNESS.

1) That's really cool.
2) God must have done that.
3) Therefore, God exists.


147. ARGUMENT FROM BIBLE IN THE WTC

1) An intact Bible was found in the WTC ruins.
2) Oh, wait . . . turns out it was a dictionary.
3) Oh well, Therefore, God exists anyway.


148. ARGUMENT FROM BIBLICAL EQUATIONS (GENERIC VERSION)

1) If there exists a numerical value, NV, such that for a key religious figure, KRF, in a holy book, HB, there two measurments of time, T1 and T2, mentioned in HB, but not necessarily associated with KRF in HB, such that T1 and T2 can be inserted into a calculator function (such as addition or subtraction), CF1, of two variables, such that CF1(T1,T2) yields T3, and HB alleges that three significant events, E1, E2, and E3 (in chronological order) associated with KRF, occured, and the descriptions in HB of E1, E2, and E3 are such that it cannot be proven based these descriptions alone that T3 is an impossible measurement of the span of time from the microsecond, ME1, of the alleged event E1 and the microsecond, ME3, of alleged event E3, and the numeric value NV can be computed by choosing two units of time (such as seconds, hours, minutes, days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries), U1 and U2, so that solving the equation for NV: NV*(1 U1) + NV(1 U2) = T3 yields a numeric value for NV for which it cannot be proven based on the writings of HB that NV*(1 U1), is an impossible measure of the exact number of microseconds between ME1 and the microsecond ME2 at which alleged event E2 occured, nor proven based on the writings of HB that NV*(1 U2) is an impossible measure time, to the nearest microsecond, between ME2 and ME3, and there exists a function, F, such that F(NV) is a combination of a calculator function of one variable, CF2 (such as log10, sin, cos, sqrt, ln, etc.), and a calculator function of two variables, CF3 (such as multiply, add, subtract, or divide), whereby F(NV) = CF3(CF2(NV),NV*(1 U1)), and computing F(X) gives the value Y, which has units (1/U1), and there exists units U3, such that Y*(1 u3) gives Y in units of (U3/U1), and the conversion of Y(U3/U1) to compatible units, U4/U1, by multiplying Y(U3/U1)*N, where N is the value (1 U4)/(1 U3), gives Y*N(U4/U1), and there exists a physical constant, C1, which can be expressed in units U5/U4, such that C1(U5/U4)*Y*N(U4/U1) gives C1*Y*N(u5/u1), and in the culture in which HB was written, there was an approximation, A, for the aforementioned physical constant, C1, expressed in units U5/U1, such that the number of significat digits, SD, for which the decimal representation of A matches the decimal representation of C1*N*Y is greater than or equal to 9, then God exists.
2) NV exists.
3) Therefore, God exists.


149. ARGUMENT FROM BASTARDIZED DESCARTES.

1) I think.
2) Therefore, God am.


150. ARGUMENT FROM SEVEN YEAR OLD

1) This seven year old believes in God.
2) You don't want to break a seven year old's heart, now do you?
3) Therefore, God exists.


151. ARGUMENT FROM COMMON PHRASES

1) Oh my God!
2) Goddammit!
3) God bless you.
4) He has more money than God!
5) In God we trust.
6) I'm God's gift to women.
7) God only knows.
8) God forbid . . .
9) One nation, under God.
10) Oh God! Oh yes!!! OH GOD!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!
11) Use your God-given talents!
12) God will provide.
13) There but for the grace of God go I.
14) Dear God . . .
15) Oh, for the love of God . . .
16) God help us!
17) God almighty!
18) God bless America
19) Not even God could tell the difference.
20) I swear to God.
21) As God is my witness . . .
22) Thank you, God!
23) My God!
24) Good God!
25) God's green Earth.
26) In God's country
27) What if God were one of us?
[more to come, I'm sure...] N+1) Therefore, God exists.


152. ARGUMENT FROM IT IS WRITTEN

1) Morals have to come from somewhere.
2) The Bible has lots of "Thou shalt nots" in it.
3) Therefore, God exists.


153. ARGUMENT FROM COLLEGE FUNDING

1) You believe that God exists.
2) If I ever discover otherwise, you will get no money for college.
3) Therefore, God exists.


154. ARGUMENT FROM PORK

1) In the Bible, God commands the Hebrews not to eat any pork.
2) Since then we've learned that if you eat undercooked pork, you might get trichinosis.
3) Therefore, God exists.


155. ARGUMENT FROM MOUNT ARARAT

1) The Bible says that Noah's Ark landed on Mt. Ararat.
2) There's a Mt. Ararat in Turkey.
3) Therefore, God exists.


156. ARGUMENT FROM CHILD CUSTODY

1) We have legal custody of your son.
2) If you don't act as though the Christian God exists, you will never, ever see him again.
3) Therefore, God exists.


157. ARGUMENT FROM FIDEISM (MARTIN GARDNER'S ARGUMENT)

1) The atheists are absolutely right. There's no logical reason whatsoever to believe that God exists.
2) But he makes me feel good anyway.
3) Therefore, God exists.


158. ARGUMENT FROM DIAGRAM (GEORGANN'S ARGUMENT)

1) I have drawn a diagram that represents the geometric progression proof of God.
2) It has a pyramid in it and the air shafts of the pyramid in the diagram point to Jesus. It's an astonishingly clean and inspired representation of a amazing amount of text which although first written down about 3500 years ago, manages to reflect, as only God's word could of the entire history of all creation and mankind up to the point of its being written down.
3) Therefore, God exists.


159. ARGUMENT FROM STUPIDITY

1) God is too stupid to do anything about the horrendous evil and suffering in the world.
2) God made man in his image.
3) I am stupid.
4) Therefore, God exists.


160. ARGUMENT FROM STAR TREK

1) Resistance is futile.
2) You will be assimilated.
3) Therefore, God exists.


161. ARGUMENT FROM PRAYER (I)

1) When I pray and it comes true, God made it come true.
2) When I pray and it doesn't come true, God has a better plan.
3) Therefore, God exists.


162. ARGUMENT FROM POPEYE

1) God said, "I yam that I yam."
2) Therefore, God exists.


163. ARGUMENT FROM BEER (I)

1) Why ask why?
2) Therefore, God exists.


164. ARGUMENT FROM PAIN AVOIDANCE

1) If I don't believe that God exists, I'll go to hell.
2) Please don't hurt me.
3) Therefore, God exists.


165. ARGUMENT FROM NASCAR

1) If God exists, then he needs a race car driver.
2) Dale Earnhardt died in a car accident.
3) Therefore, God exists.


166. ARGUMENT FROM CUTENESS

1) Cuteness is not an evolutionary advantage.
2) But bunnies are cute.
3) Therefore, God exists.


167. ARGUMENT FROM ACTUAL INFINITES (WILLIAM LANE CRAIG'S ARGUMENT)

1) An actual infinite cannot exist.
2) God is an actual infinite.
3) Therefore, God exists.


168. HANK HANEGRAAF'S ARGUMENT

1) It is completely against God's absolute nature to allow you to exist.
2) You exist.
3) Therefore, God exists.


169. THE ULTIMATE MODAL ARGUMENT

1) It is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it ispossible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it ispossible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it ispossible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it ispossible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it ispossible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it ispossible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is possible that it is necessary that God exists.
2) Certainly a premise like that with so many possibilities cannot be false.
3) Therefore, God exists.


170. ARGUMENT FROM FINE-TUNING

1) If God exists, he could via miracles make any world where physical constants disallow life naturally, but this is not the case if God does not exist.
2) Amazingly, God chose to make a world which naturally allows life.
3) Therefore, God exists.


171. ARGUMENT FROM CONTINGENCY

1) Contingent beings, like humans or the universe, need to be caused.
2) Anything with a necessary cause is also necessary.
3) So God created the universe and humans.
4) Therefore, God exists.


172. ARGUMENT FROM SIMPLICITY

1) Simple explanations are generally better than more complex explanations.
2) The universe can be explained as the creation of God, a being who is omniscient (where omniscience is defined as having all knowledge of true propositions knowable by an Anselmian supreme being in all possible worlds which do not imply weird McEar paradoxes), omnipotent (where omnipotent is defined as having the ability to do any and all logically possible actions coherent with the idea of a supreme being and those by unsupreme beings), morally perfect (where morally perfect is defined as being of a perfectly good will and only does good actions, and only allows good actions or those actions which lead to even better results), immaterial (where immaterial is defined as not being composed of matter or described by physical laws of any logically possible world, including those comprising nothing physical), and a person (where person is defined as having intellect, intent, will, and worthy of moral respect and able to make moral decisions), and this is a fully simple explanation, given the simple and immediately understandable (by anyone) definition of God (where simple is defined as having a nature identical with his existence, and all properties of X being identical to any other properties of X, and these properties not identical to any other beings other than X).
3) Therefore, God exists.

173. ARGUMENT FROM GLOBAL SKEPTICISM

1) We know some things, and so global skepticism is wrong.
2) Certainly a being way more powerful, knowledgable, and moral than us would not have any reasons to deceive us lowly beings and not tell us he is doing so.
3) Therefore, God exists.


174. ARGUMENT FROM COLORS

1) Colors exist, and are in part caused by the physical properties of objects.
2) Let's not think about how this could have come about without God.
3) Therefore, God exists.


175. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST ARGUMENT (PLANTINGA, BAHNSEN, WILSON, ET AL)

1) Presuppositionalist: Materialism cannot account for knowledge.
2) Atheist: You'll have to support that statement.
3) P: It is supported by noting that if matter is all there was, there would not be knowledge.
4) A: That's the same claim.
5) P: Okay, it's backed up by noting that if there were no objects made of matter, we could not know anything.
6) A: Again, same claim, different words.
7) P: I'll back it up thusly: In a naturalistic universe, justified true beliefs could not occur.
8) A: I'm afraid you're not getting any further back.
9) P: Here's the proof: when matter is all there is, knowledge is precluded by the lack of non-material entities.
10) A: Okay, you've found five different ways to express the same claim. Now please justify it.
11) P: Gladly. Under materialism, knowledge is unaccounted for.
12) A: Look, this isn't a contest to see how many different ways you can say the same thing. Comprende?
13) P: Fine. The justification is this: knowledge is impossible if we assume materialism.
14) A: You're an idiot. Do you know that?
15) P: Enough with your insults. Here is the ultimate justification for my claim: materialism in inadequate to account for human knowledge.
16) [atheist leaves]
17) P: I win.
18) Therefore, God exists.


176. ARGUMENT FROM THIS MORNING

1) I woke up this morning.
2) Therefore, God exists.


177. ARGUMENT FROM POLITICS

1) The majority of Americans believe in God.
2) If I pretend to believe in God too, I'll get elected.
3) Therefore, God exists.


178. ARGUMENT FROM BOWELS

1) I forgot to say grace last night.
2) This morning, I was punished with a painful bowel movement.
3) Therefore, God exists.


179. ARGUMENT FROM COINCIDENCE

1) We were driving home with our youth pastor when it started to rain really hard.
2) So we pulled over to the side of the road, joined hands and asked God to deliver us home safely.
3) We got home safely.
4) Therefore, God exists.


180. ARGUMENT FROM COMPUTERS (I) (ROBERT T. LEE'S ARGUMENT)

1) I tried to delete a copy of the Ten Commandments from my hard drive.
2) But I got an error message saying that the file could not be deleted.
3) Therefore, my computer has more sense than the atheist who built it.
4) Therefore, God exists.


181. ARGUMENT FROM COMPUTERS (II)

1) An atheist tried to delete a copy of the Ten Commandments from his hard drive.
2) He succeeded.
3) Let us pray that his computer comes to a true and lasting repentance for this most grievous of sins.
4) Therefore, God exists.


182. ARGUMENT FROM BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION

1) Every interpretation of a Bible verse that any atheist ever makes for any reason whatsoever is either based on a mistranslation, or is taken out of context.
2) Therefore, there are no errors or contradictions in the Bible.
3) Yes, pi is equal to 3.
4) Yes it is.
5) YES IT IS!!!
6) Therefore, God exists.


183. ARGUMENT FROM INVISIBILITY

1) God is invisible.
2) I can't see God.
3) Therefore, God exists.


184. ARGUMENT FROM MONEY

1) All U.S. currency displays the motto "In God We Trust."
2) Therefore, God exists.


185. ARGUMENT FROM MATHEMATICS

1) a^2-b^2=(a+b)*(a-b)
2) Therefore, God exists.


186. ARGUMENT FROM PRAYER (II)

1) I wanted a sunny day, so I prayed God to not make it rain.
2) We had three thunderstorms.
3) Clearly God was punishing me for my selfish desires.
4) Therefore, God exists.


187. METACROCK'S ARGUMENT FROM FORMAL EDUCATION

1) I have a philosophy degree.
2) Therefore your knowledge of philosophy is pitiful compared to mine.
3) Therefore, you cannot comprehend my intense philosophical proofs of God's existence (such as the one below).
4) Therefore, God exists.


188. METACROCK'S ARGUMENT FROM ARBITRARY NECESSITY

1) I have invented the term "arbitrary necessity."
2) It is a golden principle which applies to whatever I say it does.
3) I say an eternal universe is an arbitrary necessity.
4) Therefore, God exists.


189. PEACOCK'S ARGUMENT FROM SELECTIVE READING

1) Here are the reasons why the first sentence of this atheist's essay is wrong.
2) [atheist points out that those reasons are refuted in the atheist's essay, from the second sentence onward.]
3) I only read the first sentence of the essay, so I am not aware of any refutations of my reasons.
4) Therefore, God exists.


190. ARGUMENT FROM BEER (II)

1) "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
2) Beer exists.
3) Therefore, God exists.


191. ARGUMENT FROM BEER (III)

1) Christian: Whatever you believe in, that is your God.
2) Atheist: I believe I'll have another beer.
3) Ha ha ha!
4) Therefore, God exists.


192. ARGUMENT FROM MONKEYS

1) If men came from monkeys, there shouldn't be monkeys around anymore.
2) But there are still monkeys around.
3) Therefore, God exists.


193. ARGUMENT FROM C.S. LEWIS

1) C.S. Lewis had a lot of good arguments for Christianity -- at least that's what my Christian friends tell me.
2) C.S. Lewis also wrote a lot of popular books.
3) So C.S. Lewis must have been right!
4) Therefore, God exists.


194. ARGUMENT FROM DEAD FIREFIGHTERS

1) All those dead firefighters were blessed by a Catholic priest before they gave their lives.
2) They were too mostly Catholic!
3) I just know!
4) Therefore, God exists.


195. ARGUMENT FROM JERRY FALWELL

1) Jerry Falwell said some really stupid things after 9-11.
2) He was then inspired by God to apologize, publically.
3) No, the public outcry had nothing to do with it!
4) God told me, that's how I know.
5) Therefore, God exists.


196. ARGUMENT FROM ELECTORAL DEMOGRAPHICS

1) Most Americans believe in God.
2) Many of them vote.
3) Therefore, God exists.


197. BENDER'S ARGUMENT FROM CONFETTI

1) One night I considered taking the gospel to some war orphans.
2) The next morning I found a scrap of newspaper outside, and on it were the words "Go for it."
3) Random coincidence? I think not!
4) Therefore, God exists.


198. ARGUMENT FROM SCIENTISTS

1) Some famous scientists believed in God.
2) Therefore, God exists.


199. ARGUMENT FROM INSTRUMENTATION

1) You are an atheist.
2) You did something nice.
3) Therefore, you were an instrument of God.
4) Therefore, God exists.


200. ARGUMENT FROM QUANTUM PHYSICS

1) Quantum physics uses an uncertainty principle.
2) There is room for God.
3) Therefore, God exists.


201. ARGUMENT FROM APOLOGETICS WEBSITES

1) I was surfing the net, and found this cool website of arguments for God's existence.
2) The arguments were stunning. I couldn't refute them.
3) Therefore, God exists.


202. ARGUMENT FROM EXISTENTIALISTIC LONLINESS

1) This can't be all there is to life.
2) I mean, it's all so depressing and nasty and brutal.
3) I'm lonely.
4) There has to be something else out there.
5) I mean, there just has to be.
6) THERE JUST HAS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE!!
7) AARRGGHH!!! THERE JUST HAS TO BE!!!
8) I know! God! God can be out there for me!
9) Yay, I don't feel so lonely anymore!
10) Therefore, God exists.


203. ARGUMENT FROM SINS I LIKE

1) In my opinion, abortion is wrong.
2) I want facts to back up my opinions.
3) In the absence of facts, morals will do.
4) Christians say that abortion is a sin.
5) Yay, I have allies!
6) Therefore, God exists.


204. DAVID MATHEWS' ARGUMENT (ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN SOLIPSISM)

1) Nothing is real except Jesus.
2) See (1).
3) Therefore, God exists.


205. ARGUMENT FROM RATHER ODD LANGUAGE

1) My usage of certain words, such as "exists," is arbitrarily and idiosyncratically different from their usage in ordinary discourse.
2) Therefore, God exists.


206. ARGUMENT FROM CATS

1) Cats are really mean.
2) I mean, look at them chase around those cute little mice.
3) No animal could act that way on instinct.
4) Therefore, cats are corrupted by the devil!
5) Therefore, God exists.


207. KIERKEGAARD'S ARGUMENT (ARGUMENT FROM THE THRONE ROOM)

1) Would you stand before a mighty king and ask him to prove his existence to you?
2) No?
3) That's what you're doing with God, you arrogant bastards!
4) I don't CARE if you can't see him!
5) Therefore, God exists.


208. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF IMAGINATION

1) I can't imagine not believing in God.
2) Therefore, God exists.


209. ARGUMENT FROM TUNA FISH

1) Nothing is better than God.
2) A tuna fish sandwich is better than nothing.
3) Therefore, a tuna fish sandwich is better than God. (And tastier, too.)
4) Therefore, God exists.
4a) But you'd be better off worshipping the tuna fish sandwich.


210. ARGUMENT FROM WOW

1) Wow.
2) Therefore, God exists.


211. ARGUMENT FROM KINDLY PSYCHOANALYSIS

1) You say there's no God?
2) Ah, someone calling themselves Christians must have really hurt you in the past.
3) I'm sorry.
4) Therefore, God exists.


212. ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN EXPERTS ARE IGNORED

1) Dembski, Behe and Plantinga are ignored by mainstream intellectuals.
2) Only a fear of the truth could explain this.
3) Therefore, God exists.


213. ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN EXPERTS ARE NOT IGNORED

1) Dembski, Behe and Plantinga are listened to by many mainstream intellectuals.
2) Only a recognition of the truth could explain this.
3) Therefore, God exists.


214. ARGUMENT FROM COUNTERFACTUAL EVIDENCE

1) You claim that there is no proof of God's existence.
2) But if there were tons of evidence, you still wouldn't be convinced.
3) Therefore, God exists.


215. CHUCK GREENBERG'S ARGUMENT (ARGUMENT FROM THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG HERE)

1) Okay, so maybe all the theistic arguments are less than perfect.
2) But those atheistic arguments aren't that great either.
3) I don't know, there's just something WRONG about them.
4) Therefore, God exists.


216. ARGUMENT FROM LOVE

1) What about love, atheists? You believe in love, right? You don't deny that love exists, do you? Love!
2) Therefore, God exists.


217. ARGUMENT FROM CANADIAN ROCK BAND

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ROTFLMAO!!!
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That is just too fucking funny!
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Very entertaining. Sadly, though, I've had some of these used against me in all seriousness in the past.
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Mmmmm, delicious!
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I think my eyes dried out as I was reading your post. Damn you. :P
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I like:

ARGUMENT FROM THE LAW OF HIDDEN INTENTIONS (I)

1) Does God exist?
2) If God exists, we can have a lot of festivals involving wine.
3) Sherefore, God exishts...

ARGUMENT FROM THE LAW OF HIDDEN INTENTIONS (II)

1) If God exists, do I need to go to (holy building)?
2) There are some cute chicks at (holy building).
3) God provided us lots of festivals with wine.
4) God wants us to "be fruitful and multiply"
5) You can see where I'm heading with this.
6) Oh, God...God, YES YES...ohhh... God exists. Want a cigarette?
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In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!

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*hopping up and down*

I posted a funny I posted a funny :)
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Vympel wrote:*hopping up and down*

I posted a funny I posted a funny :)
Oyah. . .

Very nice :)

Now, we just need to archive this somewhere that is more easily referenced - when someone uses one of the arguments:

"Ah, I see you are using standard argument number X.
The standard refutation to standard argument X is Y"

They still won't get it, but it saves us effort. . .
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Need to get this voice recorded then key it to a Handly Palm pilot

Should Improve "Idiot Smackdown" time by as much as 17 seconds!

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Possibly not- its so long it may take more than 17 seconds to reach the silly theology argument that you're hearing :)
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Possibly not- its so long it may take more than 17 seconds to reach the silly theology argument that you're hearing
Thusly I have it patterned to listen to the first two lines and search for an aporparate or likley match cutting it down to 3-7 instead of 220

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