Edward Hooper once published in Rolling Stones, and in subsequent texts and books that he believes that HIV was created when contaminated monkey kidneys were used to create polio vaccines, and later injected into vulnerable children in Africia, achieving the cross species jump from SIV to HIV.
Well, do you believe that its possible, or just another conspiracy theory?
1. On one hand, Edward Hooper subsequent editions, as well as the entire theory in general has taken the route of conspiracy theories. He claim with a certain justification that Koprowski has supressed his theories, and introduces mysterious characters who claimed to have done previous research that suggests certain batches were contaminated.
Testing of US made vaccines had also proven negative, despite suggestions that they were purposely limited so as not to find SIV.
The standard vaccine production should had easily killed the SIV virus.
Molecular studies on the branching of HIV also suggests that the concidental timings of the polio vaccine may not be as concidental as thought. Michael Worobey studies on the SIV also suggests that the virus in the Congo was vastly different from HIV strains in the area, suggesting that these monkeys were not the source.
2. On the other hand, the vaccine stock has not been fully tested for the SIV virus and Koprowski as well as others has resisted open testing of the remainding stocks/blood.
There is the concidental timings, as well as the fact that polio vaccines have been contaminated with monkey diseases before.
The generally unhygenic as well as relatively unsafe conditions of catching monkeys as well as vaccine production might have rendered inferior quality control and the contamination of vaccines.
Cross species jump require high doses of viri and the polio vaccine offers a easy route against weak immune systems(that of new born babies).
HIV and Polio vaccine
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HIV and Polio vaccine
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http://www.avert.org/origins.htmAvert.com wrote:How could HIV have crossed species?
It has been known for a long time that certain viruses can pass from animals to humans, and this process is referred to as zoonosis.
The researchers concluded that HIV could have crossed over from chimpanzees as a result of a human killing a chimp and eating it for food.
Some other rather controversial theories have contended that HIV was transferred iatrogenically i.e. via medical experiments. One particularly well publicised theory is that polio vaccines played a role in the transfer.
The journalist Edward Hooper has suggested that HIV could be traced to the testing of an oral polio vaccine called Chat as batches of the Chat vaccine may have been grown in chimp kidney cells in the Congo, the Wistar Institute and Belgium. That could have resulted in the contamination of the vaccine with chimp SIV, the simian version of HIV-1. This vaccine was then given to about a million people in the Belgian Congo, Ruanda and Urundi in the late 1950s.
However, in February 2000 the Wistar Institute in Philadelphia announced that it had discovered in its stores a phial of polio vaccine that had been used as part of this polio vaccination program. The vaccine was subsequently analysed and in April 2001 it was announced3 that no trace had been found of either HIV or chimpanzee. A second analysis4 confirmed that only macaque monkey kidney cells, which cannot be infected with SIV or HIV, were used to make Chat.
What is crucial in regard to the credibility of any theory is the question of when the transfer took place.
Is there any evidence of when the transfer took place?
During the last few years it has become possible not only to determine whether HIV is present in a blood or plasma sample, but also to determine the particular subtype of the virus. Studying the subtype of virus of some of the earliest known instances of HIV infection can help to provide clues about the time of origin and the subsequent evolution of HIV in humans.
Three of the earliest known instances of HIV infection are as follows:
1. A plasma sample taken in 1959 from an adult male living in what is now the Democratic Republic of Congo
2. HIV found in tissue samples from an American teenager who died in St. Louis in 1969.
3. HIV found in tissue samples from a Norwegian sailor who died around 1976.
Analysis in 1998 of the plasma sample from 1959 was interpreted5 as suggesting that HIV-1 was introduced into humans around the 1940s or the early 1950s, which was earlier than had previously been suggested. Other scientists have suggested that it could have been even longer, perhaps around 100 years or more ago.
In January 2000, the results of a new study presented at the 7th Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections, suggested that the first case of HIV infection occurred around 1930 in West Africa. The study was carried out by Dr Bette Korber of the Los Alamos National Laboratory. The estimate of 1930 (which does have a 20 year margin of error), is based on a complicated computer model of HIV's evolution.
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