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I just had a conversation with a friend who's having some issues with a female co-worker. The conversation went something like this:

me: what a bitch, why don't you just whack her or something?
him: what? are you kidding me or are you serious?
me: I'm quite serious, I mean if a guy did half of what you said this bitch has done, you'd kick his ass pound him right?
him: yeah, you're right, but still, I can't just hit a girl!


What I'm wondering about is this. Why is it so wrong to hit a girl, and where does this idea come from? Why is it a female can get away with things that would end up with a male getting the shit beat out of him for? And finally, is it right that we let women get away with things that men would get whacked or beat up for?
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Hard for me do to all the training(Marital Arts+ Military Training +time means that I normaly view that a fight is over when my oppent is PHYISACLY incapable rather than MENTLY incapable of hurting me..)

So yes I have a no-hitting people period policy mostly because I usely breaks bones when I fight outside a prepared controled enivorment(Like Sparring)

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Heeheehee....chivalry, my friend.

Personally, if a girl hits me (excpet older relatives, of course), I WILL hit them back.

Since quite a while back, the females havebeen looked upon as the fairer race, so to speak. They are the ones that give childbirth, and therefore are to be protected. It's partly an instinctual thing, I think.
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The average man is stronger than the average woman. That puts any fighting one sided, and unfair. That is partially why it is condemned.

There are other reasons, dictated by genetics. Women can be pregnant, are more frail, etc. We are forced to look at them as gems to be contended. Not that I object. :)
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Female issues aside, hitting a co-worker is likely to get him fired at the least, plus jail.

Thre are some women out there that know men shouldnt hit them and they take advantage of it by goading and harassing men to the point where they would strike if the person was a man. I think thats kinda bullshit but I generally agree men shouldnt hit women.
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TrailerParkJawa wrote:Female issues aside, hitting a co-worker is likely to get him fired at the least, plus jail.

Thre are some women out there that know men shouldnt hit them and they take advantage of it by goading and harassing men to the point where they would strike if the person was a man. I think thats kinda bullshit but I generally agree men shouldnt hit women.
In that case, verbal war is my specialty. ;)
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I don't see why. Personally, if someone pisses me off to the point where violence becomes the most expedient solution, I will hit them regardless of gender. After all, we see large numbers of women demading to be treated equally to men, I figure that if they want that right that they ought to accept the responsibility that comes with it, and one of those responsibilities is to take your punches when you piss someone off. Is it fair? Absolutely. Arguments that women are generally the weaker sex physically are totally irrelevant - equality has nothing to do with fairness. We do not argue that ST vs. SW as is is an unfair fight because the Federation is completely inferior to the Empire - why should women get a free ride?

On a side note, I do end up hitting women less often than men (and I should stress that both are rare events). The reason for this is that women usually are smart enough to not piss me off, leading me to believe that women are in fact the more rational sex. :P
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I just beg for mercy, regardless of gender.
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data_link is right. It doesn't matter who or what they are, only that they're asking for it, and since they asked you for it you should give it to them...
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Circular logic and chivalry, my friends. Girls are not to be hit by males, period.
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Durran Korr wrote:Circular logic and chivalry, my friends. Girls are not to be hit by males, period.
Unless they hit you first. In which case, you have the right to kick them in the shins.
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I find it amusing how feminists always complain about how they are equal to men and should be treated as such, yet they raise a fuss when a man hits a woman or something like that, in self defense or the likes.

Personally, I don't hit women (if ya don't count my younger sisters, heh heh), but if some lady really pisses me off and attacks me or something, I will use physical force to protect myself/throw her out of the way/etc..
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fennyCWAL wrote:I find it amusing how feminists always complain about how they are equal to men and should be treated as such, yet they raise a fuss when a man hits a woman or something like that, in self defense or the likes.

Personally, I don't hit women (if ya don't count my younger sisters, heh heh), but if some lady really pisses me off and attacks me or something, I will use physical force to protect myself/throw her out of the way/etc..
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Let me put it this way: I will slug a guy-friend in the arm if joking around. I would never do such a thing with a girl-friend. I will, however, do whatever I have to do to prevent someone from attacking me, regardless of gender.

Don't ask why, because I don't know why I am this way. Maybe just indoctrination. Whatever.
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Alferd Packer wrote:Let me put it this way: I will slug a guy-friend in the arm if joking around. I would never do such a thing with a girl-friend. I will, however, do whatever I have to do to prevent someone from attacking me, regardless of gender.

Don't ask why, because I don't know why I am this way. Maybe just indoctrination. Whatever.
It's one of those societal conditioning things. It's also a mental thing. Most psychopaths don't CARE who they hurt.

And speaking of feminazis, how about the kind that goes " We want equality and voting, and the right to burn the bra, etc. etc. etc. "

Then the next thing they do is insist that men pay for dates, carry bags for them, open doors for them... in fact, in my country this guy raised a huge amount of flak with the question "should women peel prawns for their partners?"
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I think you should not hit her, that could get you into trouble.

However, women are usually not hit cause their fragile, weaker, etc.

Why don't you capitalize on that with verbal insults and all? I'm not quite sure how one would accomplish this, but why not?

Or maybe you should do something to her workplace while she's not looking.
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I don't hit women. Period.

I usually don't hit anyone, in fact. In general I avoid fighting, and very few people attack me.
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Shinova wrote:I think you should not hit her, that could get you into trouble.

However, women are usually not hit cause their fragile, weaker, etc.

Why don't you capitalize on that with verbal insults and all? I'm not quite sure how one would accomplish this, but why not?

Or maybe you should do something to her workplace while she's not looking.
I and a few friends know how to reduce a girl to tears. Just swear a lot, beat them down, don't give them a chance to say anything in return, and if she tries to hit you, break her arm.

(This is also why I'll never get attached)
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Shinova wrote:Or maybe you should do something to her workplace while she's not looking.
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Post by Shinova »

I've hit girls in controlled situations, aka sparring.

I was fighting one girl. I'm not sure what it was that I did wrong but all of a sudden she went all psycho on me.


Anyway, I wouldn't hit a girl if she was clearly less capable of fighting than I am. However, if she's got some skills, then I'd hit her.
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I generally don't hit people (except my father, but we're just playing around), but I wouldn't spare anyone because of gender or age if provoked.
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Shinova wrote:I've hit girls in controlled situations, aka sparring.

I was fighting one girl. I'm not sure what it was that I did wrong but all of a sudden she went all psycho on me.


Anyway, I wouldn't hit a girl if she was clearly less capable of fighting than I am. However, if she's got some skills, then I'd hit her.
(Tries to stop self from asking how many places was she stabbed in)

And if you want to fuck up her workplace, go send her a few thousand copies of Newsweek, Screw, Playboy and Penthouse at her workplace, addressed, to her, FROM her, using the card these magazines have inside.

An added bonus is that she gets the bill. Of course, if said porno mags turn her on, that won't work. So you'll have to mail her dead animal pron c/o her boss.
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Durran Korr wrote:Circular logic and chivalry, my friends. Girls are not to be hit by males, period.
You are being sarcastic right?
Alferd Packer wrote:Let me put it this way: I will slug a guy-friend in the arm if joking around. I would never do such a thing with a girl-friend. I will, however, do whatever I have to do to prevent someone from attacking me, regardless of gender.

Don't ask why, because I don't know why I am this way. Maybe just indoctrination. Whatever.
It probably has to do with the fact that "socially acceptable horseplay" is still seperated by gender in most cases. Because of this, most girls would probably not appreciate being slugged in the arm as a joke, whereas most boys are likely to find this acceptable. Therefore, you do not slug people in the arm who are unlikely to appreciate being slugged in the arm. This is not indoctrination, this is common sense.
Shinova wrote:I think you should not hit her, that could get you into trouble.
That's true of all fighting.
Shinova wrote:However, women are usually not hit cause their fragile, weaker, etc.
A myth, really, most women I know could easily kick my ass. And even if it were true, so what? Fairness does not require equality (something far too many feminists fail to realize), why should I let people off the hook just because they are less able to fight back?
Shinova wrote:Why don't you capitalize on that with verbal insults and all? I'm not quite sure how one would accomplish this, but why not?

Or maybe you should do something to her workplace while she's not looking.
Because that would be disrespectful. I'm not one to insult someone falsely; that makes my word worthless and makes me look like an asshole, as well as being ineffective as a deterrant, tending to escalate fights, and being just plain cruel.
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data_link wrote:
Shinova wrote:Why don't you capitalize on that with verbal insults and all? I'm not quite sure how one would accomplish this, but why not?

Or maybe you should do something to her workplace while she's not looking.
Because that would be disrespectful. I'm not one to insult someone falsely; that makes my word worthless and makes me look like an asshole, as well as being ineffective as a deterrant, tending to escalate fights, and being just plain cruel.

But in this situation the girl was being an idiot first.
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Shinova wrote:
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Shinova wrote:Why don't you capitalize on that with verbal insults and all? I'm not quite sure how one would accomplish this, but why not?

Or maybe you should do something to her workplace while she's not looking.
Because that would be disrespectful. I'm not one to insult someone falsely; that makes my word worthless and makes me look like an asshole, as well as being ineffective as a deterrant, tending to escalate fights, and being just plain cruel.

But in this situation the girl was being an idiot first.
Like I said, they hit you, kick em in the shins. Doens't matte rhow they hit, you, just do it.
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