Fred Phelps' daughter...in med school?!

Rahvin · Post by **Rahvin** » 2005-09-20 04:03pm

Okay, someone just posted this in another forum. Apparently he was curious about a classmate, and looked her up...

So I'm in my 2nd semester in the Doctoral program in Physical Therapy at the University of Kansas Medical Center, doing what I can to get through alright, working with my classmates on various projects, when it dawns on me that one of my classmates has a bit of a familiar last name, and she happens to live in Topeka, KS. So just out of curiousity, I do a Google search on her to see if what I surmise is true, and I'm completely taken aback:

http://ww w.ntdaily.com/vnews/display.v?TARGET=showImage&article_id=3e9b908dd5c43&image_num=2

That's her on the left.

I happen to have a few projects involved with her this semester, and I can't think of one good reason why I shouldn't spit in her face. Of course I won't, but this puts me in an unbelievably uncomfortable position that I really have no clue as to how to approach this in a mature manner.

My question is, how can someone like this possibly be expected to hold to medical ethics? I mean, Phelps (and by the picture, apparently his daughter, too) believes that AIDS and other STDs are punishments from God, and supports anything that results in the deaths of gays. Is his daughter similarly going to tell an AIDS patient "sorry, you shouldn't have sinned against God by having teh buttsex, you disgusting little anal fornicator!"? Is she going to refuse treatment for homosexuals becuase they are "evil" or "suffering God's wrath?"

Would the med center be morally justified in kicking her out for her beliefs if those beliefs made her ability to practice ethically questionable at best?

What would you do if you were in this guy's shoes?

Rahvin · Post by **Rahvin** » 2005-09-20 04:15pm

Ghetto edit:

My apologies - I'm not entirely sure if she's Phelps' daughter, only a relative. Judging by the rest of the Phelps' Klan and the photo provided, she was likely indoctrinated at the WBC like the rest of them.

Further ghetto edit - could some kind mod break the link in the quote? That was awfully dumb of me...

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2005-09-20 04:21pm

"Accidentally" let the rest of the school know who she is and what her views are.

Rahvin · Post by **Rahvin** » 2005-09-20 04:33pm

After cooling down for a few minutes, I have to say that she really can't be excluded from med school based on her beliefs, no matter how disgusting they are. Until she actually violates the schools rules of conduct, or is proven to have violated the rules of medical ethics after she begins a practice, there's really not much that can or should be done.

But I'd spread the word about her beliefs, and show friends that picture.

Junghalli · Post by **Junghalli** » 2005-09-20 04:52pm

No, disbarring her from med school on the basis of her beliefs would be discrimination. To say nothing of also being hypocracy of the highest order if it is being done in the name of "tolerance".
If she actually violated medical ethics on the bases of those beliefs it would, of course, be a different story.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2005-09-20 06:14pm

I don't know what classes one takes in med school, but couldn't she fail classes due to her beliefs. Like in an ethics class or something giving answers according to her beliefs that are really bad.

Glimmervoid · Post by **Glimmervoid** » 2005-09-20 06:28pm

Some of Fred Phelps children fell out with him and left did they not. Do we know he she is one of those?

Rahvin · Post by **Rahvin** » 2005-09-20 06:34pm

Some of Fred Phelps children fell out with him and left did they not. Do we know he she is one of those?

Take a look at the link in the quote. In the picture, she's standing on an American flag holding a sign that says "Fags die, God laughs." The girl next to her is holding a sign that says "God blew up the shuttle."

Something tells me she's like Fred, unless she had a falling-out with him and his beliefs sometime after the Columbia disaster. Possible, but unlikely.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2005-09-20 06:34pm

What exactly is her take on the homosexual issue? Is she a raving lunatic in the family tradition, or is she simply someone who through no fault of her own happens only to be related to a lunatic?

Glimmervoid · Post by **Glimmervoid** » 2005-09-20 06:41pm

Rahvin wrote:
Some of Fred Phelps children fell out with him and left did they not. Do we know he she is one of those?
Take a look at the link in the quote. In the picture, she's standing on an American flag holding a sign that says "Fags die, God laughs." The girl next to her is holding a sign that says "God blew up the shuttle."

Something tells me she's like Fred, unless she had a falling-out with him and his beliefs sometime after the Columbia disaster. Possible, but unlikely.

I would want to see proof that she was still a raving fundy before some one gets wrecks her life.

Rahvin · Post by **Rahvin** » 2005-09-20 06:44pm

Did some Googling. Remember those protests Phelps was holding at the funerals of gay soldiers?

Yeah, well, she was there.

Article from just this past August.

The Hatemonger's spawn wrote:"They're fighting for a fag country," said Libby Phelps, 22, a granddaughter of Fred Phelps who protested in Smyrna. "There's nothing heroic or prideful about that. ... God put us here to preach the word."

Looks like she's just as bigotted and crazy as Fred, to me.

Rahvin · Post by **Rahvin** » 2005-09-20 06:46pm

Ghetto edit - apparently she's his granddaughter, not his daughter. My apoligies for posting too quickly.

Glimmervoid · Post by **Glimmervoid** » 2005-09-20 06:52pm

Rahvin wrote:Did some Googling. Remember those protests Phelps was holding at the funerals of gay soldiers?

Yeah, well, she was there.

Article from just this past August.

The Hatemonger's spawn wrote:"They're fighting for a fag country," said Libby Phelps, 22, a granddaughter of Fred Phelps who protested in Smyrna. "There's nothing heroic or prideful about that. ... God put us here to preach the word."
Looks like she's just as bigotted and crazy as Fred, to me.

Wow some one who dose research!!!

Good enough for me I am convinced I still would not ruin her life (even though she dissevers it).

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2005-09-20 07:47pm

Hmm, I think, since she believes homosexuals should be executed, she should not be given access to prescription drugs and a doctor's position of confidence, due to the danger to patients. That's just me, though, the guy should tell the teachers, and they will see if her espoused beliefs contradict a doctor's TOS if you will.

Coalition · Post by **Coalition** » 2005-09-20 08:45pm

I might almost be wondering, how old is Fred Phelps? How good is his health? He might be starting to look at himself in the mirror, and thinking that the medicine for keeping oneself alive might be a good thing.

Or it could be that his granddaughter is gonig to med school so he has an actual doctor to support his beliefs.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-09-20 08:46pm

Rahvin wrote:Okay, someone just posted this in another forum. Apparently he was curious about a classmate, and looked her up...

So I'm in my 2nd semester in the Doctoral program in Physical Therapy at the University of Kansas Medical Center, doing what I can to get through alright, working with my classmates on various projects, when it dawns on me that one of my classmates has a bit of a familiar last name, and she happens to live in Topeka, KS. So just out of curiousity, I do a Google search on her to see if what I surmise is true, and I'm completely taken aback:

http://www.ntdaily.com/vnews/display.v? ... mage_num=2

That's her on the left.

I happen to have a few projects involved with her this semester, and I can't think of one good reason why I shouldn't spit in her face. Of course I won't, but this puts me in an unbelievably uncomfortable position that I really have no clue as to how to approach this in a mature manner.
My question is, how can someone like this possibly be expected to hold to medical ethics? I mean, Phelps (and by the picture, apparently his daughter, too) believes that AIDS and other STDs are punishments from God, and supports anything that results in the deaths of gays. Is his daughter similarly going to tell an AIDS patient "sorry, you shouldn't have sinned against God by having teh buttsex, you disgusting little anal fornicator!"? Is she going to refuse treatment for homosexuals becuase they are "evil" or "suffering God's wrath?"

Would the med center be morally justified in kicking her out for her beliefs if those beliefs made her ability to practice ethically questionable at best?

What would you do if you were in this guy's shoes?

Well, firstly, I would spit in her face, as there's no good reason not to. Hey, he said there wasn't himself.

Secondly, I would make sure everyone knows what she is.

Wait, scratch that. Has she been going nuts on Phelps' stuff at school? I have a hard time imagining that he wouldn't have known before now if she did. Is it possible that she goes to WBC picketings when she's home because Phelps makes her? If she's forced, get her help. If she's a genuine nutball, let's continue from step two.

Thirdly, I would make sure I lock my door at night, as being a Phelps drone, she might try something nuts for the horrible crime of opposing her.

Fourth, I would get used to being hassled. That's okay for me; I already am, as I tend to be outspoken and have no sense of tact. I don't know about this guy, though.

Son of the Suns · Post by **Son of the Suns** » 2005-09-20 09:09pm

Has she ever actually talked to you about anything other than class?

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2005-09-20 09:19pm

Quite frankly, I say you ruin her life. Or at least tell some people about the batshit insane girl hanging around campus. Hell, if she's playing support for Gramps's garbage, I don't see a reason not to fling a rock in her face either. Tell her that god did it.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-09-20 09:20pm

Son of the Suns wrote:Has she ever actually talked to you about anything other than class?

It doesn't read to me like Rahvin knows her/is in a class with her; he mentions a guy on another forum being in that boat.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-09-20 09:58pm

No, disbarring her from med school on the basis of her beliefs would be discrimination. To say nothing of also being hypocracy of the highest order if it is being done in the name of "tolerance".
If she actually violated medical ethics on the bases of those beliefs it would, of course, be a different story.

That's bullshit. If someone thought that blacks shouldn't recieve treatment the school would bounce their ass out of there faster than the eye can follow. Someone who thinks homosexuals deserve death shouldn't be any different.

McC · Post by **McC** » 2005-09-20 10:21pm

She looks fairly attractive. Seducer her, have sex with her out of wedlock, and then tell her you support homosexuals. It'd be hilarious.

</tasteless>

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-09-20 10:42pm

I'll say it again: We know Phelps is a coercive bastard. Do we know that he's not forcing her to go picket with the WBC? It seems to me that if she was a true believer, she wouldn't shut up about it at school.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2005-09-20 11:01pm

Post about a Club for Homosexuals and Bisexuals, see if she pickets or protests

If so, [Sith Voice]destroy her[/voice]

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2005-09-21 12:33pm

IIRC Phelps sent his kids to law school to get a horde of free layers to fight for his pet paranoias in court. It would hardly be surprising if he sent one to medical education to make sure he will hang around as long as possible to spread his manure as far as possible.

Rocker5150 · Post by **Rocker5150** » 2005-09-21 01:02pm

If this scumbag went to my school, I would take that photo of her, print up a shitload of flyers and put them up all over the campus. My goal would be to humiliate her on a daily basis, and I would never stop! Maybe it is wrong, but I would definatly try to ruin her life. Seepage like her deserves it.

-Rocker

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Fred Phelps' daughter...in med school?!

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