The earth is... expanding?

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-08-14 01:46am

Link

This guy, Mr. Neal Adams, makes "Timecube" guy seem reasonable by comparisson. Apparently there's no such thing as subduction, and continental drift is actually the earth EXPANDING over time. I post this because its a very good example of how graphics and a lot of scientific talk can fool people. If I didn't hold degrees in geology and hadn't personally verified data proving subduction, this might have swayed me. Check out his site. I especially like the essay linked at the top, where he improperly defines gravity.

God, I want to hit this guy with a bat. I can't even find his credentials anywhere on his site.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-08-14 01:49am

Remember, if someone uses big words and has a slick website, he must know what he's talking about!

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-08-14 01:50am

OH GOD! That thing!? Fucking XaLEv dropped that little bomb in Chat right after I'd gotten done with my Poor Man's Long Island Iced Tea and me too stupid and drunk to know better clicked it!

Yes that guy is a Supreme Asshat.

And a Hatfucker.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2006-08-14 01:54am

Perhaps my time here has sharpened by bullshit meter beyond being able to comprehend this. I mean, he uses fucking ALLCAPS and multiple puncuation marks in a row right in his 'essays.' His writing style is so informal I would think this was satire if I didn't know any better.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-08-14 01:54am

Darth Wong wrote:Remember, if someone uses big words and has a slick website, he must know what he's talking about!

Yeah, especially when he says "craterization" and "gravity = pressure". Did you look at his "essay"?

Sriad · Post by **Sriad** » 2006-08-14 02:31am

Here's all you need to read on that site to know what kind of fellow is running it:

some nut who knows HTML wrote:NOR, GENTLEMEN AND LADIES ARE THERE [tectonic] SUBDUCTION ZONES ON EARTH.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2006-08-14 04:30am

I did not read that bullshit thesis, but from where do all the matter come, or do he say that the earth is hollow?

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-08-14 05:01am

Faram wrote:I did not read that bullshit thesis, but from where do all the matter come, or do he say that the earth is hollow?

I tried to figure it out, but he uses the terms 'gravity' and 'pressure' in alarmingly interchangable ways, and I got lost.

phred · Post by **phred** » 2006-08-14 05:40am

WOW!!! SUCH EXCITING NEWS!!!!

Im reminded of Terry Pratchett referring to people who talk with multiple exclamation points.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-08-14 05:42am

phred wrote:WOW!!! SUCH EXCITING NEWS!!!!

Im reminded of Terry Pratchett referring to people who talk with multiple exclamation points.

Was there a concise quote for that? I'd like to read it.

phred · Post by **phred** » 2006-08-14 05:48am

dont remember off the top of my head. IIRC it was one of the city watch books, but Id need to look it up

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2006-08-14 05:58am

Whackaloon wrote:New York Times Article Supports Neal's Theory

Rofl: (linka).

He even claims that scientists have "finally had to admit that he was right" about there being tectonic activity on Mars like there is on Earth; insinuating that his specific theories are vindicated.

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
phred wrote:WOW!!! SUCH EXCITING NEWS!!!!

Im reminded of Terry Pratchett referring to people who talk with multiple exclamation points.
Was there a concise quote for that? I'd like to read it.

It's in Maskerade.

Terry Pratchett wrote:The letter inside was on a sheet of the Opera House's own notepaper. In neat, copperplate writing, it said:

Ahahahahaha! Ahahahahaha! Ahahahahaha!
BEWARE!!!!!

. Yrs sincerely
. The Opera Ghost
'What sort of person,' said Salzella patiently, 'sits down and writes a manical laugh? And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five? A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head.

There were a few other letters by the Opera Ghost in that book which elicted similar remarks.

phred · Post by **phred** » 2006-08-14 06:33am

looked it up
"Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind.” ~Rincewind
in eric,
It also appears in Reaper Man but the site didnt name the person who actually said it

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2006-08-14 07:14am

Sriad wrote:some nut who knows HTML

I challenge that claim. The HTML on that site is so broken it isn't even funny.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-08-14 09:23am

I lost respect for him when I noted his overuse of ellipses, lack of question marks to mark questions, and lack of capitalization. Why should I take seriously someone who hasn't put the time into proofreading his website?

(For example: "What does this article mean. And why is my brain flying around the room. doesn't seem like that much but, boy, it is.")

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2006-08-14 11:29am

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:OH GOD! That thing!? Fucking XaLEv dropped that little bomb in Chat right after I'd gotten done with my Poor Man's Long Island Iced Tea and me too stupid and drunk to know better clicked it!

Yes that guy is a Supreme Asshat.

And a Hatfucker.

He's an asshatfucker. Sorry for the OT post

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-08-14 01:40pm

I'd like to know where he thinks the extra mass necessitated by his cute theory
comes from. His ass?

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:OH GOD! That thing!? Fucking XaLEv dropped that little bomb in Chat right after I'd gotten done with my Poor Man's Long Island Iced Tea and me too stupid and drunk to know better clicked it!

Yes that guy is a Supreme Asshat.

And a Hatfucker.
He's an asshatfucker. Sorry for the OT post

ROFL!!

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-08-14 02:03pm

Lord Zentei wrote:
Whackaloon wrote:New York Times Article Supports Neal's Theory
Rofl: (linka).

He even claims that scientists have "finally had to admit that he was right" about there being tectonic activity on Mars like there is on Earth; insinuating that his specific theories are vindicated.

We've known there was tectonics and rifting on Mars for at LEAST a few decades.

wilfulton · Post by **wilfulton** » 2006-08-14 10:45pm

I think that in the near future, people convicted of crimes against the state will be forced to view this.

(reference to Sleeper)

fuzzymillipede · Post by **fuzzymillipede** » 2006-08-15 01:39am

How does he explain where all the water came from as the Earth "grew"?

FedRebel · Post by **FedRebel** » 2006-08-15 01:53am

fuzzymillipede wrote:How does he explain where all the water came from as the Earth "grew"?

I'd imagine that he'd say that it covered the continents before the Earth expanded (explaining the fish fossils found on the continents, which are mentioned in one of his movies)

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » 2006-08-15 02:12am

YARRGH! The stupidity burns on this guy like napalm!

In the douchebag's essay (which I read through the entire fucking thing of), the very first multiline paragraph... the VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH WHERE YOU EXPECT SUBSTANCE... this drivel spews out:

Drooling Expansion Boy wrote:GRAVITY is the "electromagnetic attraction from the positron" inside protons (of atoms). That is... it is the positive attractive force that reaches out from inside protons through its electrons that MAKES GRAVITY.

The bolding is not mine, folks! This is not a good start.

He continues going around arguing that the crust is somehow a self-supporting structure that is in reality as dense as iron, thus leaving the interior to be filled with... er... I can't say it. I have to let Neal Adams the Wonder Idiot do it:

D-level Thinker wrote:Now science says there’s a core of liquid iron.

I say its gas and plasma.

Earth is Naboo?

"You say"? Fuck you. I say you're a braindamaged moron. Rebutal?

Growing-Earth Idiot wrote:Big difference. I must be wrong.

Concession accepted, then!

He then goes on to argue that there is "no evidence" for the current model of the Earth (Like this is automatically a plus for his bullshit that I can't dignify with the term "theory"). He argues that his plasma core "works better", because whatever molten iron can do, plasma can do better.

He then finishes off with the biggest doozy of them all:

Sheep-Raping Inbred Fuck wrote:I say the Earth grew by manufacturing matter.

Mechanism?

He Whose Ignorance Knows No Bounds wrote:I say the Earth grew. The action of growing and heat compressed rock, much of Earth’s silicate was made atom by atom in the core of Earth driven through the magma to attach to the silicate undersurface to add to. To push upward and outward. The strongest power on Earth. Thrusting outward silicate growth. The surface cracks and spreads as the planet grows by silicate compression and pushing outward.

Has this curious pheonomenon been observed? No? Then, your specific evidence that matter is being created, dispite all our physical theories saying otherwise? None? Why should I believe you, then?

Dumkopf wrote:I say that’s balanced on a very thin blade, Don. If Earth is growing and pressure stops 2000 miles down how do we get liquid iron.

Because the pressure doesn't stop 2000 miles down, moron.

What a waste of skin...

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-08-15 04:44am

This guy also thinks that the surface of Europa is silica and not... ice.

I really need to hit him with a bat.

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2006-08-15 06:32am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Lord Zentei wrote:
Whackaloon wrote:New York Times Article Supports Neal's Theory
Rofl: (linka).

He even claims that scientists have "finally had to admit that he was right" about there being tectonic activity on Mars like there is on Earth; insinuating that his specific theories are vindicated.
We've known there was tectonics and rifting on Mars for at LEAST a few decades.

Indeed. He must have learned about Martian geology from kiddie books and then gotten real exited at something he saw about Mars in "Popular Science".

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2006-08-17 06:43am

THEY, the scientists of Earth have not faced the simple fact that the Earth is growing!...that will all change, now...!

In order to hide the terrible truth (terrible???) that the Earth is growing, "the scientific community" insisted on the concept of "subduction" and has for over 30 years. A concept that is totally untrue and unscientific and well, stupid!

Since the vaunted "subducting plates" were hidden under miles of water, proof, real proof was not forthcoming. So we've had decades of "subduction theory." One plate slides under the other. What???

Seriously, this pretty much sums it up. Paranoid megalomania worthy of any mad scientist, followed by a piercingly subtle refutation of modern geology as 'well, stupid'. Finally, he shows that he doesn't even know what the evil mainstream theory is.