[Discussion] Adding A Specific Warning Against Plagiarism

[Imperial Overlord]

In the past we've banned several people for plagiarism and made it clear that the board believes it to be serious offense. It is implicitly, but not explicitly, covered by PR 3. I propose recommending to the Administration that PR 3 be amended to explicitly mention plagiarism as a rule violation.

[Thanas]

I am in favor of it.

[CmdrWilkens]

I like the idea though I would recommend putting together the actual language of what such a prospective PR would look like.

[The Yosemite Bear]

my brain doesn't work too well for writing up rules like that, but I am i support of a plagerism rule being specifically stated....

[GrandMasterTerwynn]

I am in favor of it. Let's see if this meets with everyone's approval:

No Plagiarism: We take just as dim a view on intellectual dishonesty as we do on personal dishonesty. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to claim another person's work as your own. If you are referencing materials in a debate, make sure you cite the materials in question. This is not debate-specific; this also applies to music, art, and any written work. Do not attempt to claim another person's work as your own. You will get caught, and we will deal with you harshly.

[Thanas]

Maybe add something like:

"Do not try to steal anything written here either, for our members are quite adept at finding such copies and reporting you to legal authorities."

[GrandMasterTerwynn]

Maybe add something like:

"Do not try to steal anything written here either, for our members are quite adept at finding such copies and reporting you to legal authorities."

Will this work?

No Plagiarism: We take just as dim a view on intellectual dishonesty as we do on personal dishonesty. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to claim another person's work as your own. If you are referencing materials in a debate, make sure you cite the materials in question. This is not debate-specific; this also applies to music, art, and any written work generated both outside and inside the board. Do not attempt to claim another person's work as your own. You will get caught, and we will deal with you harshly; up to, and including, reporting you to any relevant authorities.

[Thanas]

Yes, that is excellent.

[Alyeska]

Perhaps a less wordy version? Mike is already looking at simplifying the wording of the rules.

[Kuja]

No Plagiarism: We take just as dim a view on intellectual dishonesty as we do on personal dishonesty. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to claim another person's work as your own. This is not debate-specific; this also applies any written work generated both outside and inside the board. We will deal with such violations harshly; up to and including reporting you to any relevant authorities.

Here's a simplified version.

[Thanas]

there should be a "to" inserted before "any written work".

And I think we should remove the written part. What about graphs and artwork and photos?

[GrandMasterTerwynn]

Perhaps a less wordy version? Mike is already looking at simplifying the wording of the rules.

Here's a very short version.

No Plagiarism: We also take a very dim view on intellectual dishonesty. Do not, under any circumstances, claim another person's work as your own. This applies to reference materials, written work, music, photography, and art generated both outside and inside the board. If you plagiarize, you will get caught, and we will deal with you harshly.

[Alyeska]

Looking good. It gets the point across nicely and covers all possible intellectual property.

[Publius]

GrandMasterTerwynn's most recent version is admirably clear, concise and comprehensive.

[Edi]

GrandMasterTerwynn's most recent version is admirably clear, concise and comprehensive.

QFT. It is a very worthy addition to the board rules and covers all points succinctly.

[Ted C]

Should some then make a motion that it be added to the rules?

I'll do that.

[Thanas]

I'll second that motion.

[Tiriol]

Even though the motion has already been seconded, I too support it fully. GrandMasterTerwynn's most recent version of the plagiarism rule update suggestion is entirely suitable for the board's purposes and conveys a clear message.

[Stuart]

I also agree with the final wording of the rule and suggest that it be put to a vote in its present form. I would also urge that it be placed prominently in the rules of the community (ie near the top) since it is of fundamental importance.

[CmdrWilkens]

I am going to allow 24 hours for any remaining comments and post the vote tomorrow.