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Ted wrote:We fly CF-18's, the Canadianized version of the Hornet. It's al;l built in Canada, too.
I've asked this a couple times before, but every time the question has killed the thread... How does the CF-18 differ from the F/A-18? Is it based on A or B?
If it's a one-seater, it's an A. Two-seaters are B's. I haven't looked at pics of a CF-18 recently, so I'm not sure.
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TrailerParkJawa wrote: The F-18 is flown by the Marine Corp too. Also there are several other foreign forces that fly the F-18 as well.
Finland, Spain, Malaysia and Kuwait come to mind.
...and Switzerland. I don't think that there are other non-American countries who use Hornet. F-16 is a lot more popular in NATO countries, probably because of its slightly lower cost.
And higher maneuverability. F/A-18 is really a air-ground unit, F-16 is designed as a lightweight air superiority fighter.
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Oberleutnant wrote: I've asked this a couple times before, but every time the question has killed the thread... How does the CF-18 differ from the F/A-18? Is it based on A or B?
It's been at least 10 years since I've seen anything specific on this but one thing I know is that at the time the Canadian F-18 had a floolight mounted on one side of the aircraft. Apparently it was so when they were flying along side unidentified aircraft they could flip it on to get a better look.

Otherwise, I think the CF-18 is pretty much the same as the F/A-18. They did have some two-seater versions for training. I can't recall if they kept the heavier landing gear and tail-hook or if they put in lighter stuff since they weren't going to be pounding them into carriers.

If you can get a hold of a recent coppy of Janes: All the World's Aircraft you'd be able to find out more than you ever wanted to know about the CF-18.
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Vympel wrote:Quebec- only by being exposed to a forum run by a canuck have I learnt the true EVIL of this name.

So- what is to be done? Really seriously I mean. Change in the law? Not bloody likely if the Quebecois (that's what those hatfuckers like to be called isn't it?) are entrenched in the power strucutre ... don't those assholes want to secede? What would happen then?
They're pretty well entrenched, so I don't know what's to be done. If they had voted for secession, there would have been a lot of short-term turmoil, not to mention chaos while we tried to negotiate terms (the whiny little cunts wanted to secede without taking a penny of the national debt with them, but while still retaining trade guarantees, border access, use of our currency, and certain choice lands which were given to them upon confederation). However, I think it would have eventually gone to some kind of international forum like the UN which would find in favour of balanced terms rather than their ridiculous bullshit, and the country would be better off in the long term.
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They're pretty well entrenched, so I don't know what's to be done. If they had voted for secession, there would have been a lot of short-term turmoil, not to mention chaos while we tried to negotiate terms (the whiny little cunts wanted to secede without taking a penny of the national debt with them, but while still retaining trade guarantees, border access, use of our currency, and certain choice lands which were given to them upon confederation). However, I think it would have eventually gone to some kind of international forum like the UN which would find in favour of balanced terms rather than their ridiculous bullshit, and the country would be better off in the long term
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The Dark wrote:
Oberleutnant wrote:
Ted wrote:We fly CF-18's, the Canadianized version of the Hornet. It's al;l built in Canada, too.
I've asked this a couple times before, but every time the question has killed the thread... How does the CF-18 differ from the F/A-18? Is it based on A or B?
If it's a one-seater, it's an A. Two-seaters are B's. I haven't looked at pics of a CF-18 recently, so I'm not sure.
Sea Skimmer wrote: Finland, Spain, Malaysia and Kuwait come to mind.
...and Switzerland. I don't think that there are other non-American countries who use Hornet. F-16 is a lot more popular in NATO countries, probably because of its slightly lower cost.
And higher maneuverability. F/A-18 is really a air-ground unit, F-16 is designed as a lightweight air superiority fighter.
Finland and Canada both bought them mainly because of the twin engines. Both countrys have some large areas which lack airfields or even roads on which a fighter could land and have harsh weather conditions. They didn't want to lose lots pilots and planes because of peacetime engine problumes or battle damage.

Malaysia bought them because it wanted a plane that already had good anti shipping capacity with its radar harpoon capacity and twin engines for over water and jungle flights, same reasons as the other two. There now going to buy quite a few F/A-18E's to replace there MiG's and older Hornets.

I'm not sure about Kuwait but the enhance strike capacity without needing expensive pods might have been an attraction, and with the very short ranges they'd face against another invasion they could fly C models without wing tanks giving a quite good warlord. Most f the time C's have to fly with wing tanks, leaving them with only two stations for air to ground ordinance.
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