What are you biased about?

[Eris]

Psychology majors here, as well as business majors. I also have a tribal prejudice against Arizona State University (the only U of Arizona patriotic sort of thing I've picked up).

I have many other biases and prejudices, but those are my big knee-jerk ones.

[Sidewinder]

As many board members have noted from my unfortunate tendency to make an ass of myself, I'm a Chinese-American raised by conservative parents, and I have a tendency to be fiercely biased towards the following:

In support of Chinese nationalism, and against opponents of this cause, e.g., advocates of Tibetan independence, Japanese WWII apologists, and the American right-wing nuts who fill 'Soldier of Fortune' magazine with articles advocating a Sino-American war.

In support of women's rights and against violence against women, but also against both radical feminism ("feminazis").

In opposition to racism and organizations that support it, e.g., the Confederate States of America and its modern apologists like the KKK, Nazi Germany and its modern apologists, etc.

In support of law and order, and against anarchists and the American Civil Liberties Union for its support of criminals' rights at the expense of victims and potential victims.

In opposition to religious fundamentalism/radicalism, because regardless of the radical's faith, their causes is always in support of sexual violence (see "honor killings"), racism, and others that I oppose.

[Zadius]

I can't stand people who think that woman have a certain role and that's the way it's supposed to be. For example, "the man is the head of the house", "woman are for cookin' and makin' babies" or "a woman should not be doing a man's job".

When someone starts spouting that shit I get so consumed with rage that I cannot think clearly and I refuse to listen to whatever bullshit arguments they may have. So that's my knee-jerk reaction I guess.

[VT-16]

I have a similar bias, only it mostly revolves around the depiction of or belief in set gender roles or behaviour of any kind.

If someone wants to live a life or do a job different from the gender norm, why would I ever want to discourage that? If they're good at something or feel good about their lives why should anyone work against that and deprive society of a "resource working at its fullest" (to use a cynical term)?

[solitaryshell]

I am a very biased person. I have a negative bias against:
people who think abortions should be made illegal
religious people, especially catholics
people who support president Bush
people who blame the white man for everything
people who still want affirmative action and slave reparations
college students who drink a lot
women/girl drivers
SUVs
car mechanics
people who "rice" out their cars
rap and those who listen to it
women (who are already thin) that are on diets
people

[Metatwaddle]

...Female drivers, solitaryshell?

[Dalton]

...Female drivers, solitaryshell?

Looks like this clown is just a misanthrope in general.

[solitaryshell]

...Female drivers, solitaryshell?

Looks like this clown is just a misanthrope in general.

Yes, female drivers. I find that drivers in general are pretty bad but women seem to be especially bad and young girls even worse. From my experience they are either too distracted, frightened, or try to be overly aggressive. Not to mention they seem to have trouble figuring out the dimensions of their car as evidenced by the numerous parking accidents at my school (70% female).

Why am I a clown? And yes, I suppose you could say I am a misanthrope, as my last bias against 'people' would imply.

[Metatwaddle]

Yes, female drivers. I find that drivers in general are pretty bad but women seem to be especially bad and young girls even worse. From my experience they are either too distracted, frightened, or try to be overly aggressive. Not to mention they seem to have trouble figuring out the dimensions of their car as evidenced by the numerous parking accidents at my school (70% female).

Wait, you think women are too aggressive on the road? You have got to be trolling.

As for women being more distracted, if we equate being easily distracted with having ADHD (which I can tell you from experience makes it hard to drive well), it's far more prevalent in males.

[solitaryshell]

Wait, you think women are too aggressive on the road? You're kidding, right?

As for women being more distracted, if we equate being easily distracted with having ADHD (which I can tell you from experience makes it hard to drive well), it's far more prevalent in males.

I didn't say women were more aggressive than men, I said that when women try to drive aggressively they are more often than not poor drivers. For example, in my experience, if a man is going to drive aggressively by changing lanes often and in smaller spaces they are more likely to look over their shoulder to see if there is another car in the lane before moving their car. Women, in my experience, are less likely to look and as a result more likely to almost hit another driver.

Easily distracted describes a lot more than having ADHD. I was referring to the girl on her cell phone too busy "Ohmygodding" to pay attention to the road, or the car full of girls too absorbed in their conversation to focus on the road, or the girl who for some reason thinks it is a good idea to put makeup on while she is driving on the highway? Maybe I should have said "women more often don't know how to prioritize while driving" rather than saying they are more easily distracted.

[Dalton]

Why am I a clown?

"Clown" is my euphemism for a person acting in a jackassish manner. Do you have any statistics to back up your assertion?

[solitaryshell]

Why am I a clown?

"Clown" is my euphemism for a person acting in a jackassish manner. Do you have any statistics to back up your assertion?

Ok, why am I acting in a jackassish manner? I answered the question posted. Why is saying I am biased against female drivers worse than saying I am biased against catholics (as many others said)?

No, I don't have statistics, I have personal experience which may or may not differ from yours. I'm making my claim largely based on personal observation and experience. For example, my car has been hit by more women than men (the only times my car has ever been hit have been when either I have not been in the car or I was at a red light) but this is still only personal experience.

Do you have any statistics against my assertion? I do know that women get into more minor accidents than men do and yes, I do have evidence to back that up somewhere....

And besides, why would you be asking for statistics in a thread about irrational biases?

[Kojiro]

I hate people that blame descendants. I don't care what it is, slavery, the Holocaust or male domination through history.

[Metatwaddle]

In fact, men were between two and three times more likely to die in car accidents as females in 2001 (source). But don't let those pesky facts interfere with your sexism.

Maybe I'm overreacting, but sexism pisses me off. If you don't like female drivers, move to fucking Saudi Arabia.

[Dalton]

Why am I a clown?

"Clown" is my euphemism for a person acting in a jackassish manner. Do you have any statistics to back up your assertion?

Ok, why am I acting in a jackassish manner? I answered the question posted. Why is saying I am biased against female drivers worse than saying I am biased against catholics (as many others said)?

Actually, your list of biases taken as a whole have inspired that reaction in me. It is just my opinion; I could be wrong.

No, I don't have statistics, I have personal experience which may or may not differ from yours. I'm making my claim largely based on personal observation and experience. For example, my car has been hit by more women than men (the only times my car has ever been hit have been when either I have not been in the car or I was at a red light) but this is still only personal experience.

Emphasis mine; this seems to be more anecdotal evidence than anything else. If you can't provide statistics, then I don't see why I should believe your claim.

Do you have any statistics against my assertion?

It is your claim. You must provide the evidence, because the burden of proof is on you.

I do know that women get into more minor accidents than men do and yes, I do have evidence to back that up somewhere....

I thought you said you did not have any statistics to back up your claim. Was that an untrue statement?

And besides, why would you be asking for statistics in a thread about irrational biases?

Welcome to Stardestroyer.net. Here, we believe that when one makes a claim, one must back it up...or face the consequences.

[solitaryshell]

In fact, men were between two and three times more likely to die in car accidents as females in 2001 (source). But don't let those pesky facts interfere with your sexism.

Maybe I'm overreacting, but sexism pisses me off. If you don't like female drivers, move to fucking Saudi Arabia.

Yes, men are more likely to die in car accidents but women are more likely to get into more minor car accidents.

[Metatwaddle]

Really? Show me a source. (Besides, when asked which group of drivers is worse - the group that gets in minor accidents or the group that kills people in accidents - I do hope you'll excuse me for choosing the latter.)

[Pick]

I am biased about:

People who believe women should operate in set gender roles.
Homophobics
Anti-abortion people
English teachers
Frumpy old school volunteers
Older people who call me "sweetie" and "darling" or "honey" at a business establishment, male or female. DO NOT DO THAT. I have been known to permanently leave businesses based on that. It's an unreasonable hatred. So?
People who hold simple things (such as comic strips and stories written by children) to unreasonable standards.
Parents who use child-leashes.

[solitaryshell]

Actually, your list of biases taken as a whole have inspired that reaction in me. It is just my opinion; I could be wrong.

Could you explain why I'm a jackass for having those specific biases?

Emphasis mine; this seems to be more anecdotal evidence than anything else. If you can't provide statistics, then I don't see why I should believe your claim.

Yes exactly emphasis MINE. MY biases, MY beliefs, MY experience. I never tried to say otherwise. This was a thread about PERSONAL biases, not necessarily based on anything logical.

It is your claim. You must provide the evidence, because the burden of proof is on you.

Ditto, I asked you an equally valid question only I presented it as my personal opinion, I did not claim it as fact, actually I mentioned it on a list of personal biases, so therefore I do not have to prove it as fact, no?

I thought you said you did not have any statistics to back up your claim. Was that an untrue statement?

I do not have statistics to back up my personal bias against female drivers. I do have statistical information that states that women get into more accidents than men do but men's accidents are more often fatal/more costly whereas women's are more likely to be minor dings and scrapes.

Welcome to Stardestroyer.net. Here, we believe that when one makes a claim, one must back it up...or face the consequences.

Thanks for the warm welcome, where does it say that here at SDN when you answer a specific question you should expect to be interrogated about something completely off topic?

[solitaryshell]

Really? Show me a source. (Besides, when asked which group of drivers is worse - the group that gets in minor accidents or the group that kills people in accidents - I do hope you'll excuse me for choosing the latter.)

This is like the man/woman suicide argument. Men are more likely to successfully kill themselves but women more often attempt suicide. If you have 5 male successful suicides but 400 women attempted suicides which is worse?

[Dalton]

Actually, your list of biases taken as a whole have inspired that reaction in me. It is just my opinion; I could be wrong.

Could you explain why I'm a jackass for having those specific biases?

Because I believe you are. It doesn't necessarily make it true, but you're not making it any easier on yourself.

Yes exactly emphasis MINE. MY biases, MY beliefs, MY experience. I never tried to say otherwise. This was a thread about PERSONAL biases, not necessarily based on anything logical.

You expect that to make you immune to us questioning your assertions? You DID state that you were making a claim, yes? I seem to remember that bit.

I'm making my claim largely based on personal observation and experience.

It is your claim. You must provide the evidence, because the burden of proof is on you.

Ditto, I asked you an equally valid question only I presented it as my personal opinion, I did not claim it as fact, actually I mentioned it on a list of personal biases, so therefore I do not have to prove it as fact, no?

Yes, your carefully wishy-washy wording of your unsupported claims would seem to make that so, but the fact that you said this...

I'm making my claim largely based on personal observation and experience.

...seems to contradict that. If you make a claim, you are expected to provide evidence for that claim.

I thought you said you did not have any statistics to back up your claim. Was that an untrue statement?

I do not have statistics to back up my personal bias against female drivers. I do have statistical information that states that women get into more accidents than men do but men's accidents are more often fatal/more costly whereas women's are more likely to be minor dings and scrapes.

Then I'm sure you wouldn't have any trouble producing these statistics.

Welcome to Stardestroyer.net. Here, we believe that when one makes a claim, one must back it up...or face the consequences.

Thanks for the warm welcome, where does it say that here at SDN when you answer a specific question you should expect to be interrogated about something completely off topic?

Why, right there in DR6. I suppose you have read the rules, yes?

6. If you are asked for evidence to support a claim you've made, you should either produce this evidence or concede the point until such time as you can produce this evidence. People who consistently ignore requests for evidence to support their claims (particularly contentious claims) are not looked upon kindly here.

[solitaryshell]

I made a "claim" in which I stated it was based on personal experience. Do you want me to list MORE personal experiences, because I have already listed a few, to further provide support for my claim of personal experience?

Yes, I did read the rules. And I answered the questions. This is my personal bias, I provided personal experiences. I answered the question what do I have "knee-jerk" irrational responses to and I answered female drivers. Since when is it logical to ask for statistical proof to back up a personal bias under those conditions?

As for providing the proof I do have, well, and I'm sure you'll cry cop out, it is 2 in the morning and I don't have the information in my personal possession. I know someone who worked for the United Kingdom's men's movement who investigated insurance companies and the statistics surrounding men vs women in car accidents. He has all of the researched information. I have requested the information from him so I can provide all of you with citable sources.

In addition, you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of doing. I asked you why you thought my biases qualified me as being a jackass and you have provided me with nothing other than "it's my opinion".

[Dalton]

I made a "claim" in which I stated it was based on personal experience.

Very well then.

Yes, I did read the rules. And I answered the questions. This is my personal bias, I provided personal experiences. I answered the question what do I have "knee-jerk" irrational responses to and I answered female drivers. Since when is it logical to ask for statistical proof to back up a personal bias under those conditions?

Well, since you described it as a "claim" and I have no other recourse but to assume that you're claiming that female drivers are worse than male drivers...

As for providing the proof I do have, well, and I'm sure you'll cry cop out, it is 2 in the morning and I don't have the information in my personal possession. I know someone who worked for the United Kingdom's men's movement who investigated insurance companies and the statistics surrounding men vs women in car accidents. He has all of the researched information. I have requested the information from him so I can provide all of you with citable sources.

Good. I look forward to seeing your evidence.

In addition, you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of doing. I asked you why you thought my biases qualified me as being a jackass and you have provided me with nothing other than "it's my opinion".

Yes, rather hypocritical of me, isn't it? Well, aside from my opinion as an admin of this board, I find that people who have gender-based biases, not to mention biases against the entire human race, tend to fall somewhere in the clown/jackass milieu, as it were. But in my case, calling you a "jackass", which is an insult designed to display my general opinion of you, is far different than you making a claim that women are poorer drivers than men based on "personal experience", which seems to be your catchall phrase for avoiding scrutiny.

Then again, you did admit that it was an irrational bias...but if it is irrational, then why are you looking for evidence to support it? I guess that's my fault.

[SirNitram]

Really? Show me a source. (Besides, when asked which group of drivers is worse - the group that gets in minor accidents or the group that kills people in accidents - I do hope you'll excuse me for choosing the latter.)

This is like the man/woman suicide argument. Men are more likely to successfully kill themselves but women more often attempt suicide. If you have 5 male successful suicides but 400 women attempted suicides which is worse?

The male ones, unless you can prove the female ones happen. Which you can't. Because you're a lying asshat.

Go away.

[solitaryshell]

Really? Show me a source. (Besides, when asked which group of drivers is worse - the group that gets in minor accidents or the group that kills people in accidents - I do hope you'll excuse me for choosing the latter.)

This is like the man/woman suicide argument. Men are more likely to successfully kill themselves but women more often attempt suicide. If you have 5 male successful suicides but 400 women attempted suicides which is worse?

The male ones, unless you can prove the female ones happen. Which you can't. Because you're a lying asshat.

Go away.

You can prove the female ones happen by going to a hospital and asking how many people are brought in for attempted suicides? Then the hospital can look in their records and show you? How am I a lying asshat?