finally found something that fundies are really good for...
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finally found something that fundies are really good for...
poetry, painting and music.
yes, listening to classical music, reading William Blake, and admiring rennisance art.
yes, listening to classical music, reading William Blake, and admiring rennisance art.
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Re: finally found something that fundies are really good for
Ah, but ask yourself : was it religion itself that acted as the catalyst and source of inspiration, or those emotions - love, awe, devotion - that had been usurped by religion ?The Yosemite Bear wrote:poetry, painting and music.
yes, listening to classical music, reading William Blake, and admiring rennisance art.
In other words, is the piece of music an ode to God, or an ode to those human qualities associated with god ?
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Eh, I wouldn't really call renaissance painters and classical composers fundies. Considering they lived in a place and time when everyone knew that the Bible was the literal truth of everything. Had they been born today, most of them probably would not have been such fundamentalists.
And real fundie artists tend to devout themselves to painting godawful and identical icons. Goddamned Christian fan art
And real fundie artists tend to devout themselves to painting godawful and identical icons. Goddamned Christian fan art
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By today's standards, I don't know whether Bach would be a fundamentalist or not. The man had deep-seated faith in God, but I honestly couldn't tell you whether he'd act like a crazy fundie in a modern environment.
What I do know is that his B minor mass is one of the best pieces ever composed. A subjective standard, to be sure, but damn, he knew what he was doing.
What I do know is that his B minor mass is one of the best pieces ever composed. A subjective standard, to be sure, but damn, he knew what he was doing.
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He was a Christian, but preferred a "gentle and mystic" interpretation of the Bible. A literalist (i.e. fundamentalist) he was not.The Yosemite Bear wrote:well what about William Blake, artist, clearly mind fucked crazy religious type, whose a great poet, hmmm..
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Even if we accept the various leaps of logic in this argument, I'd quite frankly give up all that old music and poetry if it meant all the fucking fundie idiots grew a brain and turned normal.
Give me a fundie-free world and Black Sabbath in the CD player and I'll be happy.
Give me a fundie-free world and Black Sabbath in the CD player and I'll be happy.
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yeah, blake and yeats are more mystical christians then modern fundies, but their works are definatly very fucked up. (of course murcury exposure and the legal availability of absinthe had more to do with that) And like the blues I tend to like aprophenic poetry for some unknown reason. I like Bach, I like Bob Dylan even that period from 1968-1980 when he was a born again. however it was mostly me just having fun.
nothing like having one's brain messed up by ones own insanity to appreciate others....
hmmm wonder what would happen if we gave pat robertson and his followers lots of absinthe?
nothing like having one's brain messed up by ones own insanity to appreciate others....
hmmm wonder what would happen if we gave pat robertson and his followers lots of absinthe?
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Uh, "fucked up" does not always = "fundamentalism." Neither does "religious" always = "fucked up."The Yosemite Bear wrote:yeah, blake and yeats are more mystical christians then modern fundies, but their works are definatly very fucked up. (of course murcury exposure and the legal availability of absinthe had more to do with that) And like the blues I tend to like aprophenic poetry for some unknown reason. I like Bach, I like Bob Dylan even that period from 1968-1980 when he was a born again. however it was mostly me just having fun.
You seem to be rather confused.
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Still here I carry my old delicious burdens/I carry them, men and women, I carry them with me wherever I go/I swear it is impossible for me to get rid of them/I am fill'd with them, and I will fill them in return. (Whitman)
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Religious people are not necessarily fucked up, but fundamentalists are. It is impossible to hold their viewpoint without being severely ignorant and irrational, which I would consider to be "fucked up".
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Yes, that is true, but the fuckedupedness Yosemite Bear was referring to (i.e. mysticism) is very different from the fundamentalist breed of fuckedupedness. What I was trying to get at is that fundamentalists don't have a monopoly on fuckedupedness. Sorry, should have been more clear.
This thread is getting rather silly.
This thread is getting rather silly.
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"We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered." (Tom Stoppard)
Still here I carry my old delicious burdens/I carry them, men and women, I carry them with me wherever I go/I swear it is impossible for me to get rid of them/I am fill'd with them, and I will fill them in return. (Whitman)
"We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered." (Tom Stoppard)
Still here I carry my old delicious burdens/I carry them, men and women, I carry them with me wherever I go/I swear it is impossible for me to get rid of them/I am fill'd with them, and I will fill them in return. (Whitman)
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You wouldn't have Black Sabbath. Without Geezer Butler's interest in the occult (sparked by the counter-culture interest in getting away from Christianity), "Black Sabbath" would never have been written, and you'd be listening to a CD by Polka Tulk Blues Band .Darth Wong wrote:Even if we accept the various leaps of logic in this argument, I'd quite frankly give up all that old music and poetry if it meant all the fucking fundie idiots grew a brain and turned normal.
Give me a fundie-free world and Black Sabbath in the CD player and I'll be happy.
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