Non-Science Fiction Shows that you HATE...

Pick · Post by **Pick** » 2006-06-21 01:43pm

I hate most TV, but I think I need to mention Joan of Arcadia specifically, because I was actually forced to watch it (in Religion class.) What a pathetic, pandering piece of shit show.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2006-06-21 01:48pm

Stravo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Bounty wrote:*Any* sitcom about an obnoxious, clueless man inexplicably married to a hot, smart wife, which seems to be about 85% of current sitcoms.
That's an excellent observation; it's the Homer Simpson effect. I actually like The Simpsons, but that particular device gets really shopworn really fast when it's copied repeatedly.
That stereotype goes back as far as one of the first sitcome - the Honeymooners where the morbidly obese, poor, cretinous Ralph Kramden is married to the hot Alice Kramden and she's happy to be with him and he has no clue how lucky he is.

Originally, Alice was a lot closer to the typical apartment house wife that you'd find in Bensonhurst. Pat Kelton was the original Alice and appears in the earliest Honeymooners skits and she could make herself look real dumpy. Then she got blacklisted and couldn't work on TV anymore. Audrey Meadows had auditioned for the part but was initially rejected because she was too pretty. Then the next morning she dropped off a photo of herself with her hair in curlers, five pounds of face cream smeared on her, and dressed in a ratty bathrobe. Jackie Gleason saw the photo, asked who that girl was, was told it was the chick he rejected as too young and pretty, and looking at the photo, said "Anybody who'd go that far has got to have a sense of humour. Hire her." The rest is history.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2006-06-21 02:08pm

Iron Chef: America

I hate it so much because it replaced my precious Iron Chef. I demand Kitchen Stadium!!!

une · Post by **une** » 2006-06-21 02:08pm

MTV's, "The Hills."

Words can't even describe how bad that show is.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2006-06-21 03:12pm

NeoGoomba wrote:Iron Chef: America

I hate it so much because it replaced my precious Iron Chef. I demand Kitchen Stadium!!!

Good pick.

Iron Chef America could have been so much more without that idiotic "Chairman" and other theatrical elements...but I begin to grow extraordinarly weary of celebrity chefs in general.

To wit; that abrasive whore Rachel Ray is getting a daytime show, debuting either this summer or next fall. *vomits*

Best cooking show ever was the "Great Chefs" series; just a chef, in his own kitchen, making his favorite food. No stage, no props, no unseen assistants doing 99% of the work in the background (well, no moreso than you'd find in any professional kitchen

), it were awesome, and the re-runs still are.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2006-06-21 04:14pm

Big Brother, what a load of unadulterated bollocks. It may have been interesting once, for about the first week of series 1, but now it's crap. Full of unintersting people doing uninteresting things and saying fuck a lot.

Deal Or No Deal. It's a interesting concept but Noel Edmunds cockyness and bollocks over does it to the point where it becomes annoying.

Parkinson. If i wanted to see an hour of arse licking I'll download some analingus.

David Letterman. as another member once said here, when the chatshow host spends more time talking to his band than the guests it's time to pull the plug.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2006-06-21 04:36pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
NeoGoomba wrote:Iron Chef: America

I hate it so much because it replaced my precious Iron Chef. I demand Kitchen Stadium!!!
Good pick.
Iron Chef America could have been so much more without that idiotic "Chairman" and other theatrical elements...but I begin to grow extraordinarly weary of celebrity chefs in general.

To wit; that abrasive whore Rachel Ray is getting a daytime show, debuting either this summer or next fall. *vomits*

Best cooking show ever was the "Great Chefs" series; just a chef, in his own kitchen, making his favorite food. No stage, no props, no unseen assistants doing 99% of the work in the background (well, no moreso than you'd find in any professional kitchen ), it were awesome, and the re-runs still are.

All I can say was Watching MING TSAI kick Bobby Flays ass all over kitchen stadium was a Dream

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2006-06-21 04:51pm

Pick wrote:I hate most TV, but I think I need to mention Joan of Arcadia specifically, because I was actually forced to watch it (in Religion class.) What a pathetic, pandering piece of shit show.

I must admit I rather liked that show, mainly because God came of as annoying as hell (wether that was intentional or not). On several occasions I half expected Joan to kick God's current incarnation's teeth in.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2006-06-21 05:08pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Charmed. Perhaps the only TV show that puts me into a genuine rage. I simply hate that fucking show so God damn much.

Other than that, most shows I don't like I simply just don't care for.

Good call on Charmed. Three hot chicks with witch powers and they somehow managed to make this show something that guys don't want to watch. I mean, lots of guys watched Buffy and the chicks on Charmed are hotter than the Buffy average. So WTF?

A few years ago I used to absolutely hate almost all reality shows and refused to watch them. I got stuck watching a few episodes of Survivor and eventually came around to sort of liking it. That started fading as the show started appearing to be a little bit fixed in a couple of the more recent seasons (according to people who obsessively watch these things).

I sort of don't mind Fear Factor but I get so grossed out by some of the things they have to eat that I know I could never do the show myself.

The show that I absolutely hate is America's Next Top Model. While I think the contestants they choose have pretty faces I just can't get into the lanky boney look the show insists on. Plus, being a stuck up bitch apparently makes good televison and a good model. What I hate most about the show is the absolute self importance of some of the judges, but then I think that about a certain part of the fashion industry anyway. The other thing I hate about this show is the bit at the end where Tyra Banks purposely, for drama

, tortures the shit out of the last two contestants. One of them gets to stay and a helpfull lecture, the other has just been punched in the gut and made to feel like total crap on national tv. Yep that's entertainment.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-06-21 05:11pm

The best part about those modelling shows is all the teary crying! I mean, they're models, but apparently being prettier than someone else is a shocking event for them, and everyone involved has to cry! WTF? Seriously, I expect footage from that show to be used in the future-Nazi 'women are weak and foolish' educational videos.

Count Dooku · Post by **Count Dooku** » 2006-06-21 05:16pm

Maury: He's exploiting people for his own gain, "hey, did you see the freaks on Maury today?"

Dr. Phil: basically the same thing, "dude, that guy is seriously fucked up".

'Reality' shows. I guess reality really does differ from person to person.

Fleet Admiral JD · Post by **Fleet Admiral JD** » 2006-06-21 05:23pm

Oh yeah. Throw another vote in for Charmed. Fucking stupid show.

Jalinth · Post by **Jalinth** » 2006-06-21 05:26pm

Frank Hipper wrote:Good pick.
Iron Chef America could have been so much more without that idiotic "Chairman" and other theatrical elements...but I begin to grow

They tried copying the Japanese show as is and failed. The problem is that the Japanese "Chairman" is apparently a very accomplished stage actor and singer (he has done Les Mis in Japanese), so can pull off the haughty nobility and all of the other theatrics without being over the top. He looked and acted like an very old time aristocrat. The American equivalent didn't - was too Hollywood.

I've watched a bit of the 2nd Hell's Kitchen - Gordon Ramsey. What a fucking asshole. He might be a brilliant chef, but being in his presence with sharp knives might lead me to a long jail time after one of his tirades.

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2006-06-21 06:26pm

Everytime I eat with my roommate I try to flip the channels because I know she's not interested in SciFi. So far I found I dislike:

American Idol.

America's Next Top Model.

Most sitcoms.

Most reality shows. The only one that I'm interested is The Ultimate Fighter, though I admit I watch it for the fighting, the rivalry and training. The house scenes are sometimes quite unbearable.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2006-06-21 06:34pm

American Idol. I'll admit it was interesting to watch the first time, if you put aside the obscene dragging in the final episode, where they had all the top ten winners come back for song and dance, and put on this dragging show until the last two seconds when the winner was announced.

However, I don't understand what is so entertaining about it the second time around. They have the exact same type of people getting ripped apart by the exact same judges and the exact same type of comments. Bleh.

War at Home. This show should be seen at least once, since it may well be a compilation of sitcom cliches with an assholish, slightly overweight father who always drives the action by always putting his foot in his mouth, the bitchy teenage daughter complaining about the same thing as they usually do in all the sitcoms, and the hot wife. Not to mention that the main lead's acting style seems to consist of declaring his foot-in-mouth lines with great pomp, then simply shifting position to tell another one.

Shadowhawk · Post by **Shadowhawk** » 2006-06-21 06:52pm

American Inventor. Great concept (well, except for the 'America votes!' crap), horrible execution. Unlikable judges, way too much sentimentality (every one of the finalists was a sob story, which was more important than the invention at many points), not enough emphasis on the inventions themselves. The larger the percentage of your wealth and the more emotional your story was, the better the chance you had. Bonus if you're a minority, double-bonus if you're an immigrant with an accent!
A million dollar prize is pretty small compared to what a good invention can net you. And I can't imagine what sort of contracts they had to sign to have their inventions judged or once they became winners. I suspect there was something along the lines of 'All inventions aired are property of ABC'. And I wouldn't be surprised in the least if there are gadget companies that have already copied some of the more novel ideas without benefiting the inventor at all.

Probably the best of the semi-finalists, a big plastic shovel with a hollow 'handle' for attaching sandbags (much faster than traditional sanbag filling techniques), and an interesting portable, interchangable modular gym didn't reach the finals.

They also aired the whackjobs too often, and none of the judging panel was personable. Weepy (and prudish, when a woman inventor with an idea for lingere had a model with her made her cover up) woman, acerbic British male, unlikeable American successful inventor (who runs an inventor's think tank; couldn't they get Popeil?), and a guy in high-profile advertising.

Bah.

Oh, and I loathe the entire concept behind that My Sweet 16 show.

Adept · Post by **Adept** » 2006-06-21 08:36pm

"The Gilmour Girls"

"7th Heaven" (Admittedly, I liked it when I was younger, but the whole "every single one of our seven kids is a giant role model to everyone they meet" grew quite violently sickening)

"Eight Simple Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter"

"CSI" (Some people find the concept very innovative; I did too, but not after several seasons of it)

Specialist · Post by **Specialist** » 2006-06-21 08:38pm

Pick wrote:I hate most TV, but I think I need to mention Joan of Arcadia specifically, because I was actually forced to watch it (in Religion class.) What a pathetic, pandering piece of shit show.

Guess i'm alone, I loved that show until they cancelled it. It was heating up near the end too, when she found out satan is influencing another kid, oh well.

I was also a fan of Charms along ago when the source (Coal sp?) married one of the witches. But after that the villians became too routine to even bother tuning in.

I never could get into government agency/detective/law drama. I find it overdone so much but for some reason they keep popping up.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2006-06-21 09:26pm

This is one that appears in a lot of shows. The character that's so unendingly stupid that they couldn't possibly function in real society.

At least Homer Simpson lives in a weird pseudo-fantasy universe. Guys like Joey from Friends just shit me up the wall. IIRC he wasn't so stupid in the early seasons, but as time went on it just got worse and worse.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2006-06-21 10:04pm

Any and All "reality" shows , god they are all annoying as well, I most hate the fact that many good sci-fi shows were canceled to make room for this shit.

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2006-06-21 10:14pm

America's Next top Model

Every Teen Drama that i have soo far seen.

Every Live action Disney made show i have so far seen

Bromwell High

Zor

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2006-06-21 10:19pm

Jalinth wrote: They tried copying the Japanese show as is and failed. The problem is that the Japanese "Chairman" is apparently a very accomplished stage actor and singer (he has done Les Mis in Japanese), so can pull off the haughty nobility and all of the other theatrics without being over the top. He looked and acted like an very old time aristocrat. The American equivalent didn't - was too Hollywood.

The Chairman bites into a Yellow friggen Pepper. That would blow a mortal man's fucking head off. Yet he and his scarf survive, because HE wanted a place where the worlds best chefs could compete! And his power and majesty rendered even the FORTUNE TELLER powerless against his cuisines!

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2006-06-21 10:28pm

all MTV Shows

All new comedies shows.

All reality TV

All Teen Dramas

All Talk and Court shows.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2006-06-21 10:59pm

Jalinth wrote:
Frank Hipper wrote:Good pick.
Iron Chef America could have been so much more without that idiotic "Chairman" and other theatrical elements...but I begin to grow
They tried copying the Japanese show as is and failed. The problem is that the Japanese "Chairman" is apparently a very accomplished stage actor and singer (he has done Les Mis in Japanese), so can pull off the haughty nobility and all of the other theatrics without being over the top. He looked and acted like an very old time aristocrat. The American equivalent didn't - was too Hollywood.

I've watched a bit of the 2nd Hell's Kitchen - Gordon Ramsey. What a fucking asshole. He might be a brilliant chef, but being in his presence with sharp knives might lead me to a long jail time after one of his tirades.

I'm a big fan of the original Iron Chef, and am very familiar with Chairman Kaga.

Have you seen any of Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares? This show has him strolling into restaurants on the verge of failure (bad food, pretentious "chefs" who have no business even washing dishes, nauseating health-code violations) and attempts to steer them towards success.
I know the topic of this thread is hated TV, but that show rocks so many, so hard. Watching it, I realise I'd enjoy working with that bastard; I'm something of a prick in a kitchen my own self.

CDiehl · Post by **CDiehl** » 2006-06-22 12:04am

Have you seen any of Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares? This show has him strolling into restaurants on the verge of failure (bad food, pretentious "chefs" who have no business even washing dishes, nauseating health-code violations) and attempts to steer them towards success.

Hell yes. I love that show. It's one of the few shows I actually make an effort to watch each week. So much I could say about it, but this isn't the place. Also, I'll agree that Great Chefs was genius and I wish I knew if and where it is shown now.

A show I can't stand is Everybody Loves Raymond. It does the stereotypical "dumbass husband with wife who can do no wrong" thing that I got sick of about season 2 of Home Improvement. I guess this could be extended to just about every sitcom in the last 15 years about families.

Finally, there was mention made earlier of the "Homer Simpson effect" or something to that effect, in reference to shows like Everybody Loves Raymond. I personally apply such a term to the habit TV writers have of turning a character initially presented as having slightly below average intelligence into an effectively retarded man-child over the course of the series. I call it that because I first noticed it watching the Simpsons, watching Homer get turned into a useless bastard.