You're cute when you're trying to be clever. Too bad the season statistics don't back your argument. I know this doesn't suit you, but the numbers don't lie, no matter how much you shout and stamp your little feet in protest. What we saw in the Superdome was a fluke and not characteristic of how their offensive line has performed through the season so far.Howedar wrote:Riddle me this, Batman, which is more likely: that Tulane's line is made of supermen, that LSU's line literally fell asleep, or that LSU's line is not shit-hot?Patrick Degan wrote:So, let's just ignore the overall game performance and the season up to this point and focus on one atypical quarter as proof of your assertion, I suppose.The stats don't support any such claim? How many rushing yards did LSU have in the first half?
Your lack of differentiation between quarters and halves of play notwithstanding.
Oh, and BTW, the only time in that game that LSU was in any real trouble was during that five-minute stretch in the second quarter when Tulane got the safety and then came back on the free kick for the touchdown. Quarter, Howedar —not half.
No, a legitimate question which your attempt to simply make up a fallacy name from thin air does not disguise your dodge of an answer.Argument from incredulity.Oh, puhLEEZE! You really imagine one atypical quarter out of a five-week season to date is really going to spell the key to destroying LSU?This game, of course. A win is a win. Still, any D-line coach in the Southeast is licking his chops.
The way you've been carrying on in this thread causes one to seriously question your grasp of such a basic fact, along with a few others.Thanks, I wasn't aware that coaches were aware of what goes on with their teamsHere's a clue: any team any given week can be beaten and any coach worth his salt knows it. Les Miles knows it as much as any of his remaining opposition know it, and he's certainly not going to ignore the lesson of the Tulane game with an upcoming schedule front-loaded with real opposition.
Tulane did not "beat up" LSU for thirty minutes. Did you even watch the game we're discussing here?Are you saying that it's a good sign that Tulane beat up LSU in the trenches for thirty minutes (again, not fifteen)?
No, quarter —the only time LSU was in real trouble was in the middle of the second quarter during which they got stuffed back for the safety. Again, did you even watch the fucking game?Half, for God's sakes. Half.I did read your post. The whole thing still comes down to you asserting that one atypical quarter points the key to LSU's destruction.Apparently you didn't read my post. That's what happens when a small-conference school has a few good guys but plays against a team with much more depth.
Wow, that was a lame little dodge, wasn't it? Starting to become your trademark in this increasingly silly discussion.Wow, that ran on a little, didn't it?You can't have it both ways. You can't shout "weak-ass line" while acknowledging LSU's depth only as a convenient prop for the "small-conference team" dodge when you need to handwave away Miles and the Tigers adjusting their game and how that line did give ample protection to both quarterbacks in the second half.
No, that's you just strawmandering me. Your argument deterioriates along predictable lines.I think that you just said that:
You can't say that LSU's line was terrible, because they played well in the second half. You can't blame it on LSU's superior depth, because [I'm not sure why you think this].
Excuse me, but just where do I say "depth doesn't matter?"Why can't I say that, Degan? Why is LSU's superior depth wrt Tulane not a reasonable explanation? Of course coaching adjustments can be made. Are you saying that the depth doesn't matter? Was it all coaching? Had the LSU men forgotten to lift their hands and push against the Tulane line?
That sort of goes without saying.I'm not claiming that coaching had nothing to do with the improvement, and I hope I didn't give that impression. All I'm saying is that LSU's offensive line had damn well better play better in the next few weeks than they did against Tulane, or they're going to have pieces of Flynn and Perriloux all over the backfield.
Look, nobody is going to be pouring over the Tulane game as proof of anything other than what it was, a fluke (and one which didn't result in any real consequences). Nobody is going to be counting on finding themselves on a field with an unfocussed LSU team at any point in a game the rest of this season. The game coaches are going to be studying (particularly at Florida and Alabama) for clues to stopping LSU will be the one with South Carolina. The Gamecocks are the only team so far this season which has managed to score two touchdowns against the number one rated defence in the country and the only team LSU didn't simply squash on the way to a win.