I'm positively repulsed

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2003-02-13 09:30pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Heh. One of my friends is in a an English class that is reading a book on the Holocaust, so I lent the teacher my copy of Barefoot Gen to show to the class. One of the students, a die-hard Gundum fan, was complaining about how it was obviously American and not real 'Japimation'.

I swear, he called it 'Japimation'

What should his punishment be?

Considering he's bending over backwards to make a correction where there doesn't need to be one, I'd say none: His obnoxious fanaticism is punishment enough.

what the heck did it's ethnicity have to do with your conversation? If someone was insisting it really was Japanese, I could understand making a correction (if someone kept telling someone that Aeon Flux was 'anime', I'd sure as hell enlighten them, but I'm like that about ignorance in general), but this wasn't occuring in the situation I assume, and even then he sure as hell doesn't need to use such an old/insulting pun.

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2003-02-13 10:24pm

Sokar wrote: wether its real life or a cartoon , depictions of child sex are equaly evil!!

Yet it is still somewhat legal; Supreme Court strikes down ban on 'virtual child porn' http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/04/16/scotu ... index.html

Unless Ascroft managed to rammed another bill passed the USA's Supreme Court. since that previous verdict.[/b]

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » 2003-02-13 11:37pm

Rubberanvil wrote:
Sokar wrote: wether its real life or a cartoon , depictions of child sex are equaly evil!!
Yet it is still somewhat legal; Supreme Court strikes down ban on 'virtual child porn' http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/04/16/scotu ... index.html

Unless Ascroft managed to rammed another bill passed the USA's Supreme Court. since that previous verdict.[/b]

How does this in any way invalidate my argument ? That case deals with consenting adults of a legal age preforming in adult videos. Admittedly the production of such videos is a dubious practice at best, but once you turn he legal age , regardless of your appearance, your free to do as you wish.The records keeping requirements for adult film verifying age and such are nearly air tight , and the industry itself regulates much of its own content in order to avoid the fallout of a 'legit' company inadvertantly producing real underage porn. Excluding the well publicised case of Traci Lords, which can be attributed to a convincing snow job by Miss Lords herself, legitimate producers of adult videos in America have never produced real underage videos.
In the case of the figures produced by Gainax we have an erotic depiction of a minor child, there is no disclaimer of it being an 'older' vervion of Rei Ayanami, so we must conclude that it is Rei , depicted as she was shown during the Evangelion series, as a 14 year old girl. Nasty , sick and disgusting. As to the age of consent in Japan being thirteen , good for Japan , here in much of the nation its 18, anything younger gets you time as Bubba's ass-bitch, or solitary so that the population dosent kill you outright for being a child molester.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-13 11:45pm

Well in a way, Rei would have to be depicted as being 14 (or 15), as she technically died during Third Impact when Instrumentality was rejected in EoE.

Anyway, while it's a lovely looking resin kit, Rei's age makes it rather objectionable in most places.

And I have to listen to my BS detector to the mention of official Eva hentai manga and anime from Gainax. Gainax would NEVER release something like that, as I'm sure Anno would have refused to let them.

The manga are just doujinshi (fan-made manga), and the hentai anime floating around is also fan-made, as it's animated oddly, and with different voices.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-02-13 11:48pm

In the case of the figures produced by Gainax we have an erotic depiction of a minor child, there is no disclaimer of it being an 'older' vervion of Rei Ayanami, so we must conclude that it is Rei , depicted as she was shown during the Evangelion series, as a 14 year old girl. Nasty , sick and disgusting. As to the age of consent in Japan being thirteen , good for Japan , here in much of the nation its 18, anything younger gets you time as Bubba's ass-bitch, or solitary so that the population dosent kill you outright for being a child molester.

There doesn't need to be a disclaimer of her age, artwork is subjective and you can't do anything about it regardless of what you think. You think shes 14 there, I think she can just as easily be 18 or 19 there. Thats the beauty of art

Im not saying you should change your opinion on whether you think its disgusting to you, but due to it being a piece of art, you cannot just say "she's 14 and thats all there is to it."

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-02-13 11:49pm

Well in a way, Rei would have to be depicted as being 14 (or 15), as she technically died during Third Impact when Instrumentality was rejected in EoE.

Ahhh the wonders of alternate realities and timelines.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-14 12:09am

Bah, there's only one fucking official timeline for Eva!!

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » 2003-02-14 12:12am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote: And I have to listen to my BS detector to the mention of official Eva hentai manga and anime from Gainax. Gainax would NEVER release something like that, as I'm sure Anno would have refused to let them.

The manga are just doujinshi (fan-made manga), and the hentai anime floating around is also fan-made, as it's animated oddly, and with different voices.

The one I saw then was a pretty convincing fake/fan-made version, had the Gainax logo and even a rather professional looking box with it.....although I will admit to not scrutinizing it. I have a buddy who's tastes run to the weird at times , especially for anime and he ordered it on a lark , thinking it would be a laugh......we didnt find it to funny when we realized it was animated child porn.............

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-02-14 12:12am

Sokar wrote:
Rubberanvil wrote:
Sokar wrote: wether its real life or a cartoon , depictions of child sex are equaly evil!!
Yet it is still somewhat legal; Supreme Court strikes down ban on 'virtual child porn' http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/04/16/scotu ... index.html

Unless Ascroft managed to rammed another bill passed the USA's Supreme Court. since that previous verdict.[/b]
How does this in any way invalidate my argument ? That case deals with consenting adults of a legal age preforming in adult videos. Admittedly the production of such videos is a dubious practice at best, but once you turn he legal age , regardless of your appearance, your free to do as you wish.The records keeping requirements for adult film verifying age and such are nearly air tight , and the industry itself regulates much of its own content in order to avoid the fallout of a 'legit' company inadvertantly producing real underage porn. Excluding the well publicised case of Traci Lords, which can be attributed to a convincing snow job by Miss Lords herself, legitimate producers of adult videos in America have never produced real underage videos.
In the case of the figures produced by Gainax we have an erotic depiction of a minor child, there is no disclaimer of it being an 'older' vervion of Rei Ayanami, so we must conclude that it is Rei , depicted as she was shown during the Evangelion series, as a 14 year old girl. Nasty , sick and disgusting. As to the age of consent in Japan being thirteen , good for Japan , here in much of the nation its 18, anything younger gets you time as Bubba's ass-bitch, or solitary so that the population dosent kill you outright for being a child molester.

The ruling covered things that look like children but arent really....that includes models of fictional characters I would think....

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-14 12:19am

Sokar wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote: And I have to listen to my BS detector to the mention of official Eva hentai manga and anime from Gainax. Gainax would NEVER release something like that, as I'm sure Anno would have refused to let them.

The manga are just doujinshi (fan-made manga), and the hentai anime floating around is also fan-made, as it's animated oddly, and with different voices.
The one I saw then was a pretty convincing fake/fan-made version, had the Gainax logo and even a rather professional looking box with it.....although I will admit to not scrutinizing it. I have a buddy who's tastes run to the weird at times , especially for anime and he ordered it on a lark , thinking it would be a laugh......we didnt find it to funny when we realized it was animated child porn.............

Well, the one I have on my HD is only about ten minutes long, and is censored with Chinese subtitles. No such hentai film is listed in the Anime Encyclopedia, and EoE was the last Evangelion title made by Gainax, and everyone involved in Project Eva. has said that nothing Eva related will ever be made.

I know of a link that has pics from my copy of the hentai film. Maybe I'll PM it to you and you can check to see if it looks like the one you saw.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-02-14 12:22am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Bah, there's only one fucking official timeline for Eva!!

He can dream, can't he?

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » 2003-02-14 12:25am

Cool enough, its probably the same, just some opportunists printing copies until Gainax's lawyers can find them......

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-02-14 12:27am

Well, the one I have on my HD is only about ten minutes long, and is censored with Chinese subtitles. No such hentai film is listed in the Anime Encyclopedia, and EoE was the last Evangelion title made by Gainax, and everyone involved in Project Eva. has said that nothing Eva related will ever be made.

I know of a link that has pics from my copy of the hentai film. Maybe I'll PM it to you and you can check to see if it looks like the one you saw.

Now why would you have an Eva hentai film on your HD? Lemme guess, its just for educational purposes to show people how "gross" you think it is isn't it?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-02-14 12:32am

Darth U, I'm also pissed at him because, AFAIK, 'Barefoot Gen' is indeed directed and drawn by the Japanese. It was the dubs that threw him off.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-14 12:33am

Actually, I wanted to see what it was like, so I downloaded it shortly before Winter Break started.

As to why it's still there: I haven't gotten around to deleting it, and it's kind of interesting in a totally bizarre and disturbing way.

Hemlock: Barefoot Gen is indeed Japanese in origin. It and Grave of the Fireflies are two of the highest regarded anime that feature WWII tragedies in Japan (BG=Hiroshima, GOTF=Firebombing of Tokyo).

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-02-14 12:43am

Actually, I wanted to see what it was like, so I downloaded it shortly before Winter Break started.

As to why it's still there: I haven't gotten around to deleting it, and it's kind of interesting in a totally bizarre and disturbing way

Ahh yes, havent gotten around to deleting it. Surprisingly, I have that same issue with my Hentai collection

Lol, just admit it, even you are guilty of jerkin the gerkin to the Eva babes.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-02-14 12:44am

Icehawk, I think you better take a walk with me right now...

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2003-02-14 12:50am

neoolong wrote:
Shinova wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote: He is, otherwise Gainax would be awfully pissed off.

This is a JAPANESE company, you seem to forget they have TV channels with naked women telling the weather.

Now I've learned everything I need to know about Japan.
Uh, they did it in Europe before.

Now I've learned everything I need to know about Europe.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-02-14 12:54am

Icehawk, I think you better take a walk with me right now...

...... Meh, ok. *starts carefully walking with HemlockGrey*

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-02-14 12:56am

Correction: The English class was reading a book on HIROSHIMA, not the Holocaust.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-02-14 01:03am

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:
neoolong wrote:
Shinova wrote:

Now I've learned everything I need to know about Japan.
Uh, they did it in Europe before.

Now I've learned everything I need to know about Europe.

See, you don't even need to know the language and there will be something entertaining on tv.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2003-02-14 01:04am

Icehawk wrote:
Icehawk, I think you better take a walk with me right now...
...... Meh, ok. *starts carefully walking with HemlockGrey*

(Drives slowly about a block away from Icehawk and HemlockGrey and looks for the signal to make the hit.)
"Hey, gumba. Get that thing ready."
(Hitman takes out his silenced submachine gun.)

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2003-02-14 01:06am

neoolong wrote:See, you don't even need to know the language and there will be something entertaining on tv.

Good point. Too bad I don't get any Japanese channels.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-02-14 06:27am

This is just asinine. HoS.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-02-14 07:51am

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot....